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Thoughts on gun control

 
 
cjhsa
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jul, 2006 07:22 pm
My point that Canada has a shitload of guns, most of them never registered by their legal owners?

Your gun registry is a complete failure. You can't use it to estimate anything.

You blame the U.S. for firearms deaths instead of your Canadian criminals.

So, what exactly is YOUR point?
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jul, 2006 07:28 pm
cjhsa wrote:
My point that Canada has a shitload of guns, most of them never registered by their legal owners?


How do you know how many are registered and how many there are?

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Your gun registry is a complete failure. You can't use it to estimate anything.


I did not use the gun registry to estimate anything? Have you inhaled too much gunpowder?

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You blame the U.S. for firearms deaths instead of your Canadian criminals.


I did not blame the U.S. for firearm deaths. I said that many of the handguns enter Canada from the U.S. Do you actually read before you post? Again, too much gunpowder?

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So, what exactly is YOUR point?


My point is that you don't know what the hell you are talking about.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jul, 2006 07:29 pm
Actually, I do. But you'd never understand.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jul, 2006 07:30 pm
cjhsa wrote:
Actually, I do. But you'd never understand.


Brilliant answer. Just brilliant. Rolling Eyes

A true sign of one who is defeated.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jul, 2006 07:34 pm
Canada's attempts at gun control have been miserable failures since their inception. You now have armed criminals and unarmed subjects.

It's obvious to me by reading your posts that you have no intent of listening to anyone except yourself, and love getting in the last word.

So go ahead. I'm done for now.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jul, 2006 08:10 pm
Intrepid wrote:
cjhsa wrote:
Actually, I do. But you'd never understand.


Brilliant answer. Just brilliant. Rolling Eyes

A true sign of one who is defeated.

I find it most difficult indeed
to understand the thought processes
of those who choose to protect violent criminals
from the defenses of their victims.

Maybe u have good friends who are violent criminals ?

David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jul, 2006 08:20 pm
Intrepid wrote:
cjhsa wrote:
California banned .50 BMG weapons, so the only U.S. manufacturer selling to the public, Barrett Arms, has designed a gun of slightly smaller caliber, and they're heading west with it. Sure, the cartridge is unique and thus expensive, but it sure makes their point, that gun control is almost always created by and for people who don't understand guns.

Safe handling of firearms and shooting skills should be taught in school, just like sex education and PE. The rules in school right now, where kids are expelled for having a plastic knife in their lunch, or a squirtgun in their backpack, have been created by retards. Just more miserable failure on the part of public schools (they like to blame parents, but remember, they taught those parents).
[/b]

Sure. Why not create another Columbine et al.

Columbine wud have turned out a lot differently
if the victims had all been armed.
The murderers wud not have lasted more than a few seconds
after thay began their violent depredations.
Disarming the victims creates a paradise
for violent predators.
If u were going to commit multiple murders,
wud u desire your victims to be armed, or helpless,
as thay were in Columbine, by operation of law ?


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You don't have to understand guns to understand that their sole purpose is to kill.

It was very much in the interest of the decent students of Columbine
to KILL the predators. Killing is either good or bad,
depending upon what kind of person gets killed
and upon what he is DOING at the time of his death.
Defensive killing is GOOD, in a predatory emergency,
e.g., Columbine.

The way u express yourself,
u make killing sound all fungible.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jul, 2006 08:49 pm
OmSigDAVID wrote:
Intrepid wrote:
cjhsa wrote:
Actually, I do. But you'd never understand.


Brilliant answer. Just brilliant. Rolling Eyes

A true sign of one who is defeated.

I find it most difficult indeed
to understand the thought processes
of those who choose to protect violent criminals
from the defenses of their victims.

Maybe u have good friends who are violent criminals ?

David


Maybe you are a few grains short of a full load. Who is protecting criminals of any sort? And, what does from the defenses of their victims mean?
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jul, 2006 08:52 pm
OmSigDAVID wrote:
Intrepid wrote:
cjhsa wrote:
California banned .50 BMG weapons, so the only U.S. manufacturer selling to the public, Barrett Arms, has designed a gun of slightly smaller caliber, and they're heading west with it. Sure, the cartridge is unique and thus expensive, but it sure makes their point, that gun control is almost always created by and for people who don't understand guns.

Safe handling of firearms and shooting skills should be taught in school, just like sex education and PE. The rules in school right now, where kids are expelled for having a plastic knife in their lunch, or a squirtgun in their backpack, have been created by retards. Just more miserable failure on the part of public schools (they like to blame parents, but remember, they taught those parents).
[/b]

Sure. Why not create another Columbine et al.

Columbine wud have turned out a lot differently
if the victims had all been armed.
The murderers wud not have lasted more than a few seconds
after thay began their violent depredations.
Disarming the victims creates a paradise
for violent predators.
If u were going to commit multiple murders,
wud u desire your victims to be armed, or helpless,
as thay were in Columbine, by operation of law ?


Quote:

You don't have to understand guns to understand that their sole purpose is to kill.

It was very much in the interest of the decent students of Columbine
to KILL the predators. Killing is either good or bad,
depending upon what kind of person gets killed
and upon what he is DOING at the time of his death.
Defensive killing is GOOD, in a predatory emergency,
e.g., Columbine.

The way u express yourself,
u make killing sound all fungible.


It is sufficiently clear to me that you are a complete nut case.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jul, 2006 09:03 pm
Intrepid wrote:
OmSigDAVID wrote:
Intrepid wrote:
cjhsa wrote:
Actually, I do. But you'd never understand.


Brilliant answer. Just brilliant. Rolling Eyes

A true sign of one who is defeated.

I find it most difficult indeed
to understand the thought processes
of those who choose to protect violent criminals
from the defenses of their victims.

Maybe u have good friends who are violent criminals ?

David


Maybe you are a few grains short of a full load. Who is protecting criminals of any sort?

Supporting gun control is like supporting drunken driving:
its just too dangerous.




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And, what does from the defenses of their victims mean?

It means successful counterattacks sufficient to end the threats from the predator,
e.g., by killing that predator as soon as possible,
presumably by use of efficient and effective means,
like a .44 caliber revolver, ideally with hollowpointed slugs.

That 's what it means.
David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jul, 2006 09:08 pm
Intrepid wrote:
OmSigDAVID wrote:
Intrepid wrote:
cjhsa wrote:
California banned .50 BMG weapons, so the only U.S. manufacturer selling to the public, Barrett Arms, has designed a gun of slightly smaller caliber, and they're heading west with it. Sure, the cartridge is unique and thus expensive, but it sure makes their point, that gun control is almost always created by and for people who don't understand guns.

Safe handling of firearms and shooting skills should be taught in school, just like sex education and PE. The rules in school right now, where kids are expelled for having a plastic knife in their lunch, or a squirtgun in their backpack, have been created by retards. Just more miserable failure on the part of public schools (they like to blame parents, but remember, they taught those parents).
[/b]

Sure. Why not create another Columbine et al.

Columbine wud have turned out a lot differently
if the victims had all been armed.
The murderers wud not have lasted more than a few seconds
after thay began their violent depredations.
Disarming the victims creates a paradise
for violent predators.
If u were going to commit multiple murders,
wud u desire your victims to be armed, or helpless,
as thay were in Columbine, by operation of law ?


Quote:

You don't have to understand guns to understand that their sole purpose is to kill.

It was very much in the interest of the decent students of Columbine
to KILL the predators. Killing is either good or bad,
depending upon what kind of person gets killed
and upon what he is DOING at the time of his death.
Defensive killing is GOOD, in a predatory emergency,
e.g., Columbine.

The way u express yourself,
u make killing sound all fungible.


It is sufficiently clear to me that you are a complete nut case.

If the best response with which u can come up
is to degenerate down to ad hominem mud slinging,
rather than addressing the substance of the issue,
u thereby define your own mental limitations.

U have my pity.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jul, 2006 09:10 pm
If there was any substance, I would address it. I see nothing but the rantings of one who has lost touch with reality.

I shall not respond to you again.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jul, 2006 09:13 pm
Thank u.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jul, 2006 10:57 pm
Here's another little thought concerning firearms, and the basis assininity of virtually all of our laws involving them, other than for the second ammendment and the ordinary laws which prohibit the commision of crimes USING firearms.

Walk into any gunstore or any place like Gander Mountain or GreenTop which sells more than one or two guns a week, and ask the first salesman you see to show you the last firearm in the store which he would ever want to get shot with, and nine out of time times he will show you some sort of a $200 fifty caliber muzzle-loading black powder anti-Bambi device which requires no FBI check or ID or anything at all other than the 200 dollars to buy.

The most lethal weapons which were ever used in any war were the large-caliber rifles used in the American civil war. There was no gain in lethality going from that age to the age of modern weaponry. The gain was in velocity and trajectories, and in not having to breathe sulfur fumes and smoke.

In any sort of a real gunfight in a saloon with black-powder pistols, you wouldn't even have to hit the other guy with a bullet; the air pollutoin would kill him.
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McTag
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jul, 2006 11:54 pm
Quote:
Columbine wud have turned out a lot differently
if the victims had all been armed.
The murderers wud not have lasted more than a few seconds
after thay began their violent depredations.
Disarming the victims creates a paradise
for violent predators.
If u were going to commit multiple murders,
wud u desire your victims to be armed, or helpless,
as thay were in Columbine, by operation of law ?



Just browsing, I read this. Wonderful....I'm just imagining children going to school, kitted out and equipped like an army platoon....for their own safety, of course.
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msolga
 
  1  
Reply Wed 19 Jul, 2006 12:26 am
McTag wrote:
Quote:
Columbine wud have turned out a lot differently
if the victims had all been armed.
The murderers wud not have lasted more than a few seconds
after thay began their violent depredations.
Disarming the victims creates a paradise
for violent predators.
If u were going to commit multiple murders,
wud u desire your victims to be armed, or helpless,
as thay were in Columbine, by operation of law ?



Just browsing, I read this. Wonderful....I'm just imagining children going to school, kitted out and equipped like an army platoon....for their own safety, of course.


I'm just imagining the scene as they defend themselves, McTag! Shocked On the other hand, if the killer/s didn't have such easy access to guns in the first place ........
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 19 Jul, 2006 06:10 am
msolga wrote:

I'm just imagining the scene as they defend themselves, McTag! Shocked On the other hand, if the killer/s didn't have such easy access to guns in the first place ........


Actually, my son would probably have taken those Columbine creeps out quite effectively. I'd much rather he have a chance then just be target practice.

I don't see anyone having "easy access" to guns. Plus, kids are ingenious, and those killers would have just made fertilizer bombs, or maybe bows and arrows, to achieve their goals, if their drugged out non-parents had secured their guns properly.

Do I support arming kids at school? No. But a few teachers and guards with CCW's could probably have reduced or eliminated that threat altogether.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 19 Jul, 2006 07:35 am
snood wrote:
There seems to be a 'breathing space' in all of the little firefights I have, except with you and lash, Setanta.


If you didn't attack Lash and i ever time we post, there might be a breathing space.

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I have p-ssing contests with Frank Apisa, but then we have weeks where we can exchange thoughts without firing shots. I have differences with timberland, and dyslexia, and cjhsa, and a couple of others, but none of those relationships (for lack of better term) seems as poisoned as that with you and Lash.


If you didn't stalk people to strike out at them whenever they post, this might not be true.

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Setanta, you seem to really have something against me that goes pretty deep.


I resent anyone who cannot, seemingly, resist the effort to make a snotty comment on anything i post, whether or not it is addressed to them, or refers to their posts. You consistently rush into threads to make personal remarks about me, and about Lash, which have nothing to do with the topic of the thread. It seems to me that you intend to whine about the necessity of being obliged to lie in the bed you have made. I have nothing against you personally, but i don't intend to meekly submit to your consistent and vicious attacks.

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You say its because I viciously attack those who attack religionists. I could say you don't lack at all in vicious attacks yourself, but I don't think you would have any of it.


There is a difference between attacking an idea and attacking a person. You appear unable to understand the distinction.

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I "have the balls" to admit anything I've done, but I have the feeling that you would find some exception to something else with no time to waste.

Let's see - I asked you in a PM if Lash is a racist because of the depth of dislike she has for me, and you said that you think she has those tendencies (I think you made reference to conversations in which she talked of her black "homies", or some such) - or do you deny telling me that?


That is a lie. You asked i thought she were racist, and i responded that i thought it was an issue about which she thought a great deal, based on her remarks. At no time have i said to you or anyone else that i thought she were a racist, or "has those tendancies." Note that it is necessary to make **** up to support your feeble assertions.

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The truth is, I'm afraid, that you and Lash won't take "yes" or "no" for an answer from me. I am in the same irredeemable category for you that you two have put Arella Mae in - you two will never let things go with her, or me.


MOAN came here and peddled a set of lies, and then manufactured a story in the attempt to gain my sympathy. I have no regard for her, and she disgusts me. If that's a problem for you, that's your problem. In your case, i simply don't intend to sit back while you attack me and not respond.

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Now, I expect that you'll reply to the effect that this is all in my mind, and that you have no interest in answering me at all, except to not let me get away with any "special pleading" for religionists.

But there is something very unhealthy about the way you simply cannot let the hostility toward me go. It's not good, man.

I said earlier that these forums would be very drab without the spice you and some others provide, and I meant that.

But if you and Lash and I never exchange the kind of going-for-the-jugular darts that all three of us have ever again, I wouldn't miss that at all.


If you dropped off the face of the earth tomorrow, i wouldn't miss you, that is certain. But you are the one who stalks people from thread to thread, not i. I object to anyone who engages in special pleading for religion over all other topics, but you want to take it personally. You are so obsessed with taking these things personally, that you rush from thread to thread attacking me, without reference to the topic of the thread. This thread is a perfect example of this habit of yours. I contributed to this thread from the outset, on topic. You have shown up to attack the Big Bird with specious and snotty claims about him. You do the same thing to me because of my remarks about religion, and you do the same thing to Lash because you have convinced yourself that she is racist. As i remarked in response to your unsolicited PM, i think race is an issue with which she is obsessed--which is not at all the same as saying i think she is racist or has racist tendancies--which i have never said. The thread on redlining is a perfect example. Both Lash and i responded on topic, and Lash specifically referred to an earlier post. But your obsession is such that you immediately attacked her.

This is all that i know about you, because i don't know you in real life. Your behavior here is such that i have no desire to know you in real life.
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snood
 
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Reply Wed 19 Jul, 2006 08:15 am
The feeling is definitely mutual, and if you don't attack me, I won't attack you. It's a pity, though.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 19 Jul, 2006 09:40 am
Yeah, i'm sure you think it a pity not to be free to attack others on the basis of perceived personality as opposed to the content of their remarks.
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