Cut & Run Liberals

ebrown_p wrote:

Brandon9000 wrote:

Advocate wrote:

Were we to leave Iraq, al-Qaida and other foreign fighters would be considered more occupiers to be expelled. This is Murtha's point, and he is correct.

So, then, you deny that establishing a pattern of cutting and running as soon as the going gets tough will embolden potential future enemies?

Iraq is not our country and the Iraqi's have no obligation to care about our fight with our "potential future enemies".

The only question in this debate should be what do the Iraqi's want.

So, then, you're saying that a pattern of slinking off whenever someone puts up a fight won't encourage potential enemies?

Brandon9000 wrote:

ebrown_p wrote:

Brandon9000 wrote:

Advocate wrote:

Were we to leave Iraq, al-Qaida and other foreign fighters would be considered more occupiers to be expelled. This is Murtha's point, and he is correct.

So, then, you deny that establishing a pattern of cutting and running as soon as the going gets tough will embolden potential future enemies?

Iraq is not our country and the Iraqi's have no obligation to care about our fight with our "potential future enemies".

The only question in this debate should be what do the Iraqi's want.

So, then, you're saying that a pattern of slinking off whenever someone puts up a fight won't encourage potential enemies?

I see that you are scared to simply answer the hypothetical.
Are you referring to the US response in Tora Bora?

Brandon, you had better examine your response.

Finn - - They want us to stay in their country and provide them with the necessary back-up muscle to allow them to establish a stable democracy. As it just so happens, this coincides quite nicely with our strategic interests. Everybody wins!

Bush said yesterday that we have to stay in Iraq because of the sacrifice of over 2,500 of our troops. I guess we have to sacrifice another 5 - 10,000 troops to cover that prior sacrifice.

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Finn - - They want us to stay in their country and provide them with the necessary back-up muscle to allow them to establish a stable democracy. As it just so happens, this coincides quite nicely with our strategic interests. Everybody wins!

Finn, you really are off the deep end. Do you honestly believe the crap that you write?

82 percent of Iraqis oppose U.S. occupation
The findings appeared consistent with a poll taken about the same time by USA Today, CNN and Gallup, which found that 57 percent of Iraqis wanted foreign troops to leave immediately.

The new poll, which has not been released publicly, is a concern among occupation authority officials and in Washington, D.C., because the data provide evidence that the U.S. effort is not winning over Iraqi public opinion.

Magginkat wrote:

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Finn - - They want us to stay in their country and provide them with the necessary back-up muscle to allow them to establish a stable democracy. As it just so happens, this coincides quite nicely with our strategic interests. Everybody wins!

Finn, you really are off the deep end. Do you honestly believe the crap that you write?

This is a typically silly response from you Maggie.

How about an attempt to counter my argument rather than common Maggie Spew?

For instance provide evidence, if you can, that the majority of Iraqis want us to leave their country.

Obviously a relatively small number of maniacs willing to blow themselves up for whatever crazy fantasy they may entertain is no more an expression of the will of the Iraqi people than a relatively small number of thugs beating up gays is an expression of the will of the American people.

For just one moment put a stick between your teeth and fight back your fitful urge to explode with leftist nonsense about evil Bush and horrible conservatives. Just one time attempt to actually, reasonably support the assertions you make.

I know you can do it Maggie, I know you can resist your hairtrigger gag reflex and choke back your left-wing vomitus!

Well, maybe not.

It is clear that the right is willing to put Bush, et al., above what is best for this country. Seems unpatriotic!

Your question is a hypothetical Brandon?



It must be because it isn't based on any reality if you think leaving after 3-1/2 years in Iraq is slinking off when someone puts up a fight. Ending an occupation isn't slinking off because of a fight. It is ending an occupation. Is there not a government in place in Iraq? Isn't the war over in Iraq?

In Tora Bora we didn't act decisively. That is why I asked if that was your reference point. It is impossible to claim we are slinking off in Iraq because someone is putting up a fight. Aren't things going well in Iraq? We are told that repeatedly by the RW fools. Now you are claiming that leaving becuase they aren't going well shows weakness. Which is it?
Are things going well or not?