Obama is against gay marriage.

I hope all those Obama supporters realize that he does not support gay marriage and is opposed to homosexuals getting married.

You left this out of your little snippet. I wonder why?

"But let's be honest. That is not what this debate is about. Not at
this time.
This debate is an attempt to break a consensus that is quietly being
forged in this country. It is a consensus between Democrats and
Republicans, liberals and conservatives, red States and blue States,
that it is time for new leadership in this country--leadership that
will stop dividing us, stop disappointing us, and start addressing the
problems facing most Americans.
It is a consensus between a majority of Americans who say: You know
what, maybe some of us are comfortable with gay marriage right now and
some of us are not. But most of us do believe that gay couples should
be able to visit each other in the hospital and share health care
benefits; most of us do believe that they should be treated with
dignity and have their privacy respected by the federal government."

according to some on A2K, context is not important. Only what one has said.

McWhitey is playing a silly little game. In the "The Anti-gay Marriage Movement IS Homophobic" thread, because Fox would not admit that Senator Inhofe of Oklahoma had made a particular remark, i went out and found the relevant page of the Congressional Record for yesterday's floor debate.

So, McWhitey, hoping as always to stir the turd, ran off to that page, and took a very little part of Obama's remarks, hoping to paint a Democrat in a bad light. People are, of course, entitled to agree or disagree with him. However, before deciding which position one will take, i suggest that people actually go to that page of the Congressional Record to read Senator Obama's remarks.

Changing the subject aren't you? I'm still waiting for evidence that Inhofe is being quoted accurately and/or in context. Since the MSM isn't picking up the comment, I still think it is highly suspect. So, lets see some proof before we automatically condemn somebody based on unsubstantiated Leftwing screeds.

This is really pathetic, foxfrye, there is nothing wrong with the link to the Think Progress watch it to the Inhofe statements regarding his family and homesexual relationships. Your claim about left wing sites might be getting it out of context is silly as well considering its his own words out of his own mouth and it couldn't be clearer. I think he meant exactly what he said, in his family there has never been a history of a homosexual relationship.

http://images1.americanprogress.org/il80web20037/ThinkProgress/2006/inhofe.320.240.mov

There is no possible context that would excuse saying that one is proud not to have had any homosexuals in one's family, Fox. It is a sign of bigotry.

I never stated that what Inhofe said applied to all republicans, either. Stop building strawmen.

Perhaps you should try updating to the latest version of quicktime. It only takes a minute, you don't even have to close your browsers to do it.

Cycloptichorn

What would be a good reason to be proud that there have never been any gays in one's family?

Foxfyre wrote:

I'm still waiting for evidence that Inhofe is being quoted accurately and/or in context.

(1) You now have evidence that Inhofe is being quoted accurately. I cannot provide context for you, but I'm curious: What kind of context can you imagine that would redeem the following quote?

Mr. Inhofe wrote:

As you see here, and I think this is maybe the most important prop [the photo] we'll have during the entire debate, my wife and I have been married 47 years. We have 20 kids and grandkids. I'm really proud to say that in the recorded history of our family, we've never had a divorce or any kind of homosexual relationship.

Foxfyre wrote:

Freeduck I don't know. Why would anybody be proud to say that there have been divorces and homosexual relationships in their family? There have been both in my family and I have been disappointed in the divorces and neutral on our beloved gay relatives.

So I take it you wouldn't stand up with a picture of your family in front of a bunch of people and claim how proud you are of that then?

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I don't think you can make a case for bigotry on one out-of-context statement. I choose not to judge people in such matters.

Can you give me a plausible context that would make that statement not bigoted?

It isn't 'out-of-context' in the slightest. Here the man is in front of the Senate arguing against Gay marriage, and he states that he is proud that there are no homosexuals in his families. That's context! You are trying to find some defense for the man, I understand that, but there really isn't any defense for bigoted statements such as this.

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Cyclop, please post the exact quote in which I made any such claim. You know it really helps if you don't deal with what you seem to hope I said so you can attack it. Probably if we stick to what I specifically said, the debate would be more coherant. It also helps if you can focus long enough to stay on one subject for more than one post.

This coming from the person who accused me of claiming that 'all' republicans felt the exact same way about gay marriage? Obviously, I never said this, yet you pounced upon it to try and accuse me of making blanket statements because that was your 'interpretation' of what I said.

You state

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Given the ease in which video can be manipulated by Quick Time, that is also another possibility.

And in your next post

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If your intent can be so easily misconstrued, and I will accept it if you say that it was, then perhaps you won't be so quick to assume the intent of one Republican with so little to go on than a short clip, unsupported by context, and so easily manipulated by a Quick time editor.

And you construe this to mean that you are not forwarding the theory that the video was edited? Or stating that you simply won't believe it because there is a possibility that the video was edited?

Sheesh. Talk about mendacity.

Cycloptichorn

Obviously context has no meaning to any of these people.

So, tell me, why does Obama believe marriage is only between a man and a woman? If he believes that, how can he support gay marriage?

It isn't an analagous situation to the KKK example I posted?

One can have a personal issue with something, without feeling that their personal issue should drive public policy. Can't they?

Cycloptichorn

I never realized that Obama was such a homo-phobe. Just look at this statement he made!

Quote:

Now, I realize that for some Americans, this is an important issue.
And I should say that, personally, I do believe that marriage is
between a man and a woman.

I hope all those Obama supporters realize that he does not support gay marriage and is opposed to homosexuals getting married.



according to some on A2K, context is not important. Only what one has said.