snood wrote:Ticomaya wrote:parados wrote:Of course Ann does have the conservative predilection for saying stupid things.
Sorta' like Howard Dean?
The stupidest thing I've ever heard Dean say ("I still want to be the candidate for guys with Confederate flags in their pickup trucks") doesn't even
begin to
approach the level of mindless stupidity of the things Coulter has said (about being no fan of the 1st amendment - about 9/11 widows "enjoying" the deaths of their husbands- about wishing McVeigh had gone to the NY times building - about fragging a congressman - about invading countries, killing their leaders and converting them to christianity,etc., etc., etc.,). Dean says things that, in retrospect he wishes he'd phrased differently; Coulter says things that are defiantly mean-spirited and, yes- abyssmally
stupid.
Coulter, as far as I know, has not run for office, nor is she the head of a political party. Saying provocative things is part of Coulter's job description ... not so with Dean. He's just an idiot.
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But, speaking of stupid things Howard Dean has said:
"I think with a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court, you can't play, you know, hide the salami, or whatever it's called." --urging President Bush to make public Supreme Court nominee Harriet Miers's White House records
"I'm a metrosexual." -employing the buzz phrase for straight men who are in touch with their feminine sides, then later admitting he didn't know what the term means
"We've gotten rid of (Saddam Hussein), and I suppose that's a good thing."
"This president is not interested in being a good president. He's interested in some complicated psychological situation that he has with his father."
"Now that we're on dog pee, we can have an interesting conversation about that. I do not recommend drinking urineĀ
but if you drink water straight from the river, you have a greater chance of getting an infection than you do if you drink urine." ?-teaching an eight-grade science class in La Crosse, Wisconsin
"Not only are we going to New Hampshire ... we're going to South Carolina and Oklahoma and Arizona and North Dakota and New Mexico, and we're going to California and Texas and New York! And we're going to South Dakota and Oregon and Washington and Michigan. And then we're going to Washington, D.C. to take back the White House, Yeeeeeaaaaaargh!" (Iowa concession speech.)
"All we ask is that we not turn into a country like Iran, where the President of Iran can do anything they [sic] want at any time." February 9, 2006.
The "idea that we're going to win the war in Iraq is an idea which is just plain wrong" December 6, 2005.
"It looks like today, and this could change, as of today it looks like women will be worse off in Iraq than they were when Saddam Hussein was president of Iraq." August 14, 2005.
"I'm Tired Of The Ayatollahs Of The Right Wing..." (Josie Huang, "Dean Calls For End To 'Culture Of Corruption'," Portland (ME) Press Herald, 10/23/05)
"New England Republicans are different than most. They are more reasonable and thoughtful. You don't get as many right-wing wackos." August 11, 2005.
Republicans are "a pretty monolithic party. They all behave the same. They all look the same. It's pretty much a white Christian party." June 6, 2005. GOP Party Chairman Ken Mehlman joked that "a lot of folks who attended my Bar Mitzvah would be surprised" he heads a Christian party.
Update: "I think it is true that the Republicans are, in fact, a largely white Christian party. There's nothing the matter with that. I'm a white Christian myself. But they don't include other folks, and this is a very diverse country. In fact, they've gone out of their way to use other kinds of people as scapegoats in order to win elections." June 8, 2005.
Referring to Republicans: "This is a struggle of good and evil and we're the good." February 25, 2005.
"I hate the Republicans and everything they stand for, but I admire their discipline and their organization." January, 2005.
"You think people can work all day and then pick up their kids at child care or wherever and get home and still manage to sandwich in an eight-hour vote? Well Republicans, I guess can do that, because a lot of them have never made an honest living in their lives." June 2, 2005. (Disavowed by leading Democrats including Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware and New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson.)
Update: "The point I was making is clear: Republican policies have declared war on hardworking Americans. I will continue to criticize Republican leaders and their policies, and the Democratic Party will continue to offer constructive alternatives." June 3, 2005.
"The Republicans are not very friendly to different kinds of people .... We're more welcoming to different folks, because that's the type of people we are." June 6, 2005. That's probably because Republicans are "evil," "corrupt" and "brain-dead" "liars" who "are not nice people." National Review.
"We've suffered a couple of serious defeats. But we're energized, because we know that our vision for America is much better than the dark, difficult and dishonest vision of the Republican party." June 2, 2005.
"The Republicans are all about suppressing votes...." June 2, 2005.
"You think the Republican National Committee could get this many people of color in a single room? Only if they had the hotel staff in here." February 16, 2005.
"White folks in the South who drive pickup trucks with Confederate flag decals on the back ought to be voting with us, and not [Republicans], because their kids don't have health insurance either, and their kids need better schools too." November 2, 2003. (Received a standing ovation from the crowd of Democrats.)
Update: "I still want to be the candidate for guys with Confederate flags in their pickup trucks." USA Today.
''I think Tom Delay ought to go back to Houston where he can serve his jail sentence!" May 14, 2005. (DeLay had been neither charged nor convicted of any crime. )
"I've resisted pronouncing a sentence before guilt is found. I will have this old-fashioned notion that even with people like Osama, who is very likely to be found guilty, we should do our best not to, in positions of executive power, not to prejudge jury trials." December 26, 2003. (Delay is charged, tried, and convicted by Dean, but Osama gets the benefit of the doubt.)
"We have to be rough on the Republicans. Republicans don't represent ordinary Americans and they don't have any understanding of what it is to go out and try and make ends meet." June 6, 2005.
"(Democrats) understand we have a border problem. But we think that if you enforce the laws you already have, the people who are already here ... they haven't broken any laws, they paid their taxes, a lot of them are paying into the Social Security system and getting nothing." SF Chronicle.
"I think the Republicans are always like this. I remember (former Republican Gov.) Pete Wilson ... got elected by victimizing immigrants. Republicans always divide people."
Caller: Once we get you in the White House, would you please make sure that there is a thorough investigation of 9/11 and not stonewalling?
Howard Dean: Yes there is a report which the president is suppressing evidence for, which is a thorough investigation of 9/11.
Diane Rehm: Why do you think he is suppressing that report?
Howard Dean: I don't know. There are many theories about it. The most interesting theory that I've heard so far?-which is nothing more than a theory, it can't be proved?-is that he was warned ahead of time by the Saudis. Now who knows what the real situation is? But the trouble is, by suppressing that kind of information, you lead to those kind of theories, whether they have any truth to them or not, and eventually, they get repeated as fact. So I think the president is taking a great risk by suppressing the key information that needs to go to the Kean Commission.
"From a religious point of view, if God had thought homosexuality is a sin, he would not have created gay people." NY Daily News.
"If Bill Clinton can be the first black president, I can be the first gay president." February 11, 2005.
"Hypocrisy is a value that I think has been embraced by the Republican Party." Dean, who did an impression of Rush Limbaugh that included the sound of someone snorting cocaine, was asked on NBC whether it is "appropriate for a physician to mock somebody who has gone into therapy and the abuse for drug addiction?" Dean said, "I will use whatever position I have in order to root out hypocrisy." Wash Times.
So Howard Dean is "just an idiot", and Coulter is a shrewd businesswoman, according to you.
Using your reasoning, whether the person is in public office (and how high an office matters, because you mentioned heading a party) should affect the algorithm we use to measure how stupid someone is, or how comparatively stupid are the things they say.
Well, I happen to think Coulter is just a sick, sick woman who happens to live in a country she can get payed in to peddle her slime, but...
if Howard Dean is "just an idiot", then your boy shrub must be a few IQ points below the most clueless simpleton to ever walk on two legs.
And we're so familiar with his asinine quotes that I won't even bother the forum with them again (although I can be persuaded, since he keeps coming up with fresh ones all the time).
Ticomaya- Snood is obviously completely unaware that President Bush attended and graduated from Yale University and Harvard Business School.
Of course, Snood would immediately say, I am sure, that President Bush got into those schools because of political influence. He must have also graduated because of political influence. Anybody( certainly not Snood) who knows anything about the Harvard MBA degree knows that no one, no one, can graduate from that school without at least a modicum of smarts since NO ONE can sit in those classes without interacting in the case methods which are always an integral part of the curriculum.
I am sure, Ticomaya, that Snood does not know that Bill Bradley,former Senator who ran for President, and a Rhodes Scholar had a SAT verbal score which was 81 ( EIGHTYONE) points lower than George W. Bush's Verbal Score--Bradley--485---Bush---566.
Of course, Snood would probably claim that the fix was in and that Bush somehow cheated on his SAT. He would give no evidence but he might very well say that.
I am sure that you know, Ticomaya, that credibility is one of the most important things in the world to Harvard and Yale. That is why Ted Kennedy, the "conscience" of the Senate was unceremoniously expelled from Harvard for cheating on a Spanish test.
If political influence can be applied to gain entrance to a University like Harvard or Yale and if political influence can be applied to keep a student in one of those schools if the student is, as some would say, far below the average intelligence level, then it is obvious that Joe Kennedy, who was one of the most influential persons on the East Coast and was also very affluent, could have kept his son in Harvard.
Harvard would have none of it!!!
If you were someone I thought worth a thoughtful reply bernardmassagotto/whoeverthefrikyou are, I would mention something about credibility being a big part of being a medical doctor and having a successful medical practice like Dean did.
But you ain't - that's the reason I haven't said anything to you for your last hundred or so posts, and won't reply to you again anytime soon.
Troll.
Ticomaya wrote:snood wrote:So Howard Dean is "just an idiot", and Coulter is a shrewd businesswoman, according to you.
A
funny, shrewd businesswoman.
Here, we can find the similarity between Coulter and Moore. Though he's managed superior achievements in Tico's two criteria.
blatham wrote:Ticomaya wrote:snood wrote:So Howard Dean is "just an idiot", and Coulter is a shrewd businesswoman, according to you.
A
funny, shrewd businesswoman.
Here, we can find the similarity between Coulter and Moore. Though he's managed superior achievements in Tico's two criteria.
Replace "funny" with "hypocritical" and I can go along with you on this one, blatham.
Ticomaya wrote:blatham wrote:Ticomaya wrote:snood wrote:So Howard Dean is "just an idiot", and Coulter is a shrewd businesswoman, according to you.
A
funny, shrewd businesswoman.
Here, we can find the similarity between Coulter and Moore. Though he's managed superior achievements in Tico's two criteria.
Replace "funny" with "hypocritical" and I can go along with you on this one, blatham.
Tico, sometimes you just sound like "Right - GOOD. Left - BAD. UGH!"
Snood -- Several years ago, before answering machines and caller ID, we were plagued by (a) prank caller(s). At that time, one had to file a formal complaint with the phone co., which then monitored your line before installing a 'trap' in the hope of catching the miscreant and prosecuting the person. The phone company representative told me that the same people make these calls over and over and that many of them became clever enough to figure how much time would elapse between the beginning of their annoying and the installation of the trap and would cease making calls to that line in time to avoid detection.
Now, I am not going off on a tangent. There was a woman who called my house for years. My son and my ex-husband would argue with her. I did at first, but, then I adopted the technique of just listening (she usually did not speak but would hold the line for up to 10 minutes), which actually discouraged her. She would reach a point of boredom, sigh loudly, then hang up.
I realized that she was a masochist.
I tell you this story because you just became angry with a certain poster, whose long series of nom d'emails is known to abuzz and a2k veterans because he never changes his style and always cites the same tired and rather dubious authorities.
I can not blame you for being angry. He's obnoxious and tries to anger people.
That is the crux of the matter. He tries to anger people. I suspect that he and my female caller have something in common: they both enjoy abuse. Let's face it, most of the centrists to the leftists here have, at some time, lost it with him and told him off. That is what keeps him coming back: he relishes abuse.
snood wrote:Ticomaya wrote:blatham wrote:Ticomaya wrote:snood wrote:So Howard Dean is "just an idiot", and Coulter is a shrewd businesswoman, according to you.
A
funny, shrewd businesswoman.
Here, we can find the similarity between Coulter and Moore. Though he's managed superior achievements in Tico's two criteria.
Replace "funny" with "hypocritical" and I can go along with you on this one, blatham.
Tico, sometimes you just sound like "Right - GOOD. Left - BAD. UGH!"
I'm cut deeply by that, snood. You know your approval is all I yearn for.
Ticomaya wrote:blatham wrote:Ticomaya wrote:snood wrote:So Howard Dean is "just an idiot", and Coulter is a shrewd businesswoman, according to you.
A
funny, shrewd businesswoman.
Here, we can find the similarity between Coulter and Moore. Though he's managed superior achievements in Tico's two criteria.
Replace "funny" with "hypocritical" and I can go along with you on this one, blatham.
Oh yeah...gotta love the integrity and hah hah status of serial plagiarists.
Ticomaya wrote:snood wrote:Ticomaya wrote:blatham wrote:Ticomaya wrote:snood wrote:So Howard Dean is "just an idiot", and Coulter is a shrewd businesswoman, according to you.
A
funny, shrewd businesswoman.
Here, we can find the similarity between Coulter and Moore. Though he's managed superior achievements in Tico's two criteria.
Replace "funny" with "hypocritical" and I can go along with you on this one, blatham.
Tico, sometimes you just sound like "Right - GOOD. Left - BAD. UGH!"
I'm cut deeply by that, snood. You know your approval is all I yearn for.
...as am I by your rapier sarcasm, sir.
NOT. Hey, if you don't care how transparent is your partisanship, and how empty your criticism if only of the opposing side, then more power to ye.
I started this mini-exchange by remarking that Michael Moore does hateful things like Ann coulter. You're evidently not capable of that kind of flexibility in your thought. Left - BAD!!!!!
snood wrote:.... Hey, if you don't care how transparent is your partisanship, and how empty your criticism if only of the opposing side, then more power to ye.
I started this mini-exchange by remarking that Michael Moore does hateful things like Ann coulter. You're evidently not capable of that kind of flexibility in your thought. Left - BAD!!!!!
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Flexibility in thought"? Let's not go overboard here. All you did was admit that Moore does the "same damn thing" as Rush/Coulter/Malkin. Admirable? Sure ... and refreshing considering the level of hypocrisy one usually gets from the left-leaning posters on this site. But all you did was state the obvious. Hell, I'm ready to admit as much ... does that mean I'm displaying "flexibility in thought"? Your partisanship is as transparent as any who post at this site, so you oughtn't preach to me about such matters. Perhaps you despise Moore as well as those other 3 -- which you didn't say, BTW -- but even if that's the case I don't find that to be a display of an amazing "flexibility of thought," such as you are boasting about. It should be taken as a given that one likes what one likes. You may very well despise Rush/Coulter/Malkin
AND Moore. I, on the other hand, enjoy reading Ann Coulter's columns, and conversely don't care to read anything Michael ("
I never saw a Twinkie I didn't like") Moore.
I have an open mind about leftist pundits, and if I run across one I enjoy reading or listening to, I promise I'll let you know.
Ticomaya wrote:snood wrote:.... Hey, if you don't care how transparent is your partisanship, and how empty your criticism if only of the opposing side, then more power to ye.
I started this mini-exchange by remarking that Michael Moore does hateful things like Ann coulter. You're evidently not capable of that kind of flexibility in your thought. Left - BAD!!!!!
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Flexibility in thought"? Let's not go overboard here. All you did was admit that Moore does the "same damn thing" as Rush/Coulter/Malkin. Admirable? Sure ... and refreshing considering the level of hypocrisy one usually gets from the left-leaning posters on this site. But all you did was state the obvious. Hell, I'm ready to admit as much ... does that mean I'm displaying "flexibility in thought"? Your partisanship is as transparent as any who post at this site, so you oughtn't preach to me about such matters. Perhaps you despise Moore as well as those other 3 -- which you didn't say, BTW -- but even if that's the case I don't find that to be a display of an amazing "flexibility of thought," such as you are boasting about. It should be taken as a given that one likes what one likes. You may very well despise Rush/Coulter/Malkin
AND Moore. I, on the other hand, enjoy reading Ann Coulter's columns, and conversely don't care to read anything Michael ("
I never saw a Twinkie I didn't like") Moore.
I have an open mind about leftist pundits, and if I run across one I enjoy reading or listening to, I promise I'll let you know.
Oh, don't put yourself out.
Yeah, "flexibility of thought" may have been a bit effusive. Both sides need to realize more often that both sides have good and bad in them.
Oh, I forgot to mention I don't care for Bill O'Reilly either.
... but I like Olbermann even less.
Ticomaya wrote:Oh, I forgot to mention I don't care for Bill O'Reilly either.
... but I like Olbermann even less.
Well, Paul Begala makes my skin crawl, but I like Tucker Carlson even less.
Joe Pyne was my favorite.
Joe to Frank Zappa "I see you have long hair, you must be a girl"
Frank to Joe "I see you have a wooden leg, you must be a table"
slight correction ( checked wikipedia)
"So I guess your long hair makes you a woman." Zappa responded with "So I guess your wooden leg makes you a table."
