CIA Protected Nazi War Criminals

Thats my respected opinion and a growing world wide consensus

But do you have a link? How can I examine the truth or falsity of your statement if you do not give evidence?

opinions were around long before the web was. You don't need a link to have an opinion that Bush people are like fascist.

I think you meant to say, Amigo, that "you don't need a link to have an opinion that Bush people are like fascistS. (You left off the S). I do not agree with you and think that you need a link.

No, I don't need a link to have an opinion that Bush people are like fascists. That makes no sense at all.

Well, Amigo, I think that people who say that Bush people are fascists without giving evidence or documentation are themselves fascists.

Mr Possum R FartBubble, I believe the reason your are having difficulty with Amigo's statement is the phrase "I think" which is, obviously, not one of your strong points. Perhaps if you had furthered your education this would not be such a difficult task for you.

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Well, Amigo, I think that people who say that Bush people are fascists without giving evidence or documentation are themselves fascists.

Bernard you don't know what Fascism means. Your beliefs depend on ignorance.

The Bushpeople don't serve much more of a purpose here other then a demonstration of highly opinionated ignorance and denial.

Well, Amigo, I think that people who say that Bush people are fascists without giving evidence or documentation are themselves fascists.

So if I call Amigo a fascist without giving evidence or documentation, does that make me a fascist?

It doesn't make you a Fascist.of course. But I still think you are filled with Envy so you attack the United States every chance that you get.
You call yourself a Historian but it is obvious to me reading the turgid and almost undecipherable posts that you write, that you would never be hired in one of the US colleges or Universities.

You don't know everything.You just think so. I am waiting for you to post something outrageous and false about my country and I will be all over you!

Why don't you use these threads to condemn the filth and depravity in the Netherlands? Leave the US alone. Asherman raised the question--Why attack the CIA's activities from years ago?

Are you itching to find "dirt" on the USA?

Turn your attention to your "moth-eaten" country which is almost on the level of a Third World Country.

Is it possible that you cannot find material to criticise some of the moribund countries in the EU? Some of the socialistic workers paradises which have 10 and 11 % Unemployment?

No matter what "dirt" you throw at the USA, Mr. Professor Nimh, you cannot deny that Millions, Millions of people want to come to the USA and want to stay in our country.

Of course, that is because( despite Nazi organizations like the CIA) we have a country which puts your to shame!!!!!

So if me calling Amigo a fascist without evidence or documentation does "of course" not make me a fascist, how does him calling Bush people fascists in same way make him a fascist?


What, my "turgid and almost undecipherable" posts are inspired by nothing but the envious wish to "throw dirt" on the US, and yet you haven't actually found any outrageous one yet?


You could visit the threads that deal with Holland, and you'd find plenty of criticism of mine of my own country as well...

But it wouldnt make much sense to use a thread about the CIA having protected Eichmann to condemn the depravity in the Netherlands, would it?

On one thread, you say that Netherlands is your country and on another you name Hungary as your country, Mr. Nimh. Do you have a dual citizenship?

It is laughable to view you taking potshots at the USA. A country whose most impverished citizens live far better than the slugs in Hungary. I visited the country five years ago and was told( in jest?) that the chief export was Papricka.

No wonder you are a negative person who writes only criticism. Don't you love the Netherlands and Hungary? You should if you live and work there.

Well, we love our country and we do not like to see someone who has never lived here for a lifetime and knows nothing about its nuances criticize it.

I would respectfully suggest that you limit your attacks to the Netherlands and Hungary. Hungary especially, with its retrograde Socialistic system which leaves it with a GDP equivalent to many third world countries would appear to have the most need of criticism.

Bernard, That you represent America and the nimh represents the Netherlands almost says it all except that I would like to say you represent a perverse kind of right wing America that is our shame.

As for the country Nimh represents, by his reputation, it must be a fine place we could learn something from and me and Nimh fight all the time, he on the Right and me on the Left.

You have managed to discredit your "right wing side" more in three weeks then I have been able to do in a year.

Please continue.

P.S. and you guys thought I was nuts.

I'm a Dutch citizen, but I live in Hungary. Moved here little over a year ago.


I love Hungary - I love the people here, the culture, the lifestyles. I loathe its politics.

The Netherlands... I'm more ambivalent about. I wish I could say I loved it - its my country, after all. But I have too many mixed feelings about it. I love the Holland I grew up in, in the 70s and 80s. I feel a sense of loss, and some anger, when I look at what it's become - or rather, what its people have become. I dont particularly like the Dutch, right now.

As for its political culture, I would say that, after the years of grabbing (the booming, materialist and egoist 90s) and the years of hating (2002-now, with its violence, extremisms and resentful suspicions) -- its well about time for a change. Time to give the Left a chance.


I, on the other hand, welcome informed criticism of my country. I usually find it interesting, and sometimes instructive.


I'm interested in a broad range of subjects covering a lot of countries beyond my own, and I will write about what I find out about them as I see fit ... much like you do. Who wants to be navelgazing?

Thank you very much..

Compliments from unexpected corners are all the more valuable. <nods>


If you'll forgive me for going nitpicking for a second: just because I am suspicious of Chavez-type authoritarian populism (which is what I would call it), and am deeply sceptical about 9/11 conspiracy theories, doesnt mean I'm rightwing. It doesn't, in fact, mean I'm to the right of you at all; plenty of people who are both and yet firmly on the left. That just on an aside :wink:

bernardr wote :
"...than the slugs in Hungary. I visited the country five years ago and was told( in jest?) that the chief export was Papricka."


the...CIA - FACTBOOK HUNGARY... will help bernardr get a somewhat better understanding of hungary .
no disrespect meant , bernardr !
hbg

Well, if Nimh is writing in good faith, he may be able to find something about the USA that he likes. I rather doubt it since in my travels in Europe. I have been to various countries in Europe quite often because of business interests five years ago and have found that the friends that I made were quite honest about the people who savagely and unfairly criticized the USA and could say nothing good about the country which saved Europe and its people. These friends said that the vicious critics were just ENVIOUS and would, as is evident by the attempts to enter the USA, give all they had to enter and work in the USA.

Is Nimh one of those envious ones or is he scholarly enough and well balanced enough to find somethings which he can find good about the USA?

I have found that the Socialists(especially those in Italy) were people who hated government because they hated themselves. They were seculars who had lost a religion( Communism) and had nothing to replace it.

Arthur Koestler knew all about this phenomenon!!!He wrote the book on it---THE GOD THAT FAILED--

The God that Failed was indeed an important book, although it was not written by Koestler; Koestler was merely one of the six authors who contributed an essay to this collection. Definitely a time piece; a good inside look into the minds of ex-communists, explaining what exactly had lured them into that ideology, and how they came out again. (Been a while since I read it, I'm afraid - ten or fifteen years).

Mind you, I find the way that you heap together (ex-)communists, socialists and European critics of the US per se, as if it's all the same thing, slightly puzzling.

Yes, I have many good things to say about the US as well; I once even wrote a ode to everything I've found inspiring about America and its culture, on either A2K or Abuzz - not a clue how to find it back though (the keyword "America" wont help me much I'm afraid).