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oreos illegal?

 
 
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Wed 14 May, 2003 08:59 pm
Part of the problem is that the government actually helps companies to sell their bad products. An instance: They approved the use of Olean to cook potato chips in. Olean robs the body of some essential vitamins, plus upsets a lot of stomachs. The government approved a warning label so tiny, slightly obscure in its wording, that the people I spoke with about it were unaware of it. The television ad said, in effect, "The Olean in these chips may help me to eat healthier." The average person seems to take advertisers and the government at their word. That is the main reason why they need to be alerted by something as attention getting as lawsuits.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Wed 14 May, 2003 09:28 pm
dagmaraka wrote:
If that's what the consensus is - dietary information for everyone - than this seems to be a way to it. Because, let's face it. In the American society how else would you achieve that? Ask the government to kindly pass a regulation? Something tells me that would not bring results.


I have been reading up on this, and I think that what you say may explicitly be the point. The FDA has been wishy-washying along for a while now, and are supposed to come to a conclusion about what to do soon.

http://www.ahealthyadvantage.com/topic/transfats
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Why aren't trans fats listed on nutrition labels?
The FDA has had trouble deciding exactly how trans fats should be labeled. The first plan was to list a percentage daily value, as is done with fat and saturated fat. But what should the recommended allowance of trans fat be? The National Academy of Sciences launched an in-depth study to answer the question. In a report released in July 2002, the NAS concluded that any amount of trans fats is more dangerous than none at all. In other words, there can be no recommended allowance. The report forced the FDA to rethink its strategy, and the agency hopes to reach a final decision on labeling by 2003.


"Hopes to", eh? Ooh. So definitive. So much conviction.

So I wouldn't be surprised if this were all part of a "GET THE LABELING ON THERE ALREADY!!" campaign.
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dagmaraka
 
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Reply Wed 14 May, 2003 11:04 pm
I do sincerely believe it is so. The fat lobby groups certainly make the government's wishy-washiness worth their while. If the trial helps to squeeze them against the wall, then hellz yeah, go for it I say! Imagine having your child snacking on something that turns out to have long-term harmfull effects, without you knowing a thing, grrrr! And the FDA knowing, double grrr!
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maxsdadeo
 
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Reply Thu 15 May, 2003 12:35 am
Despite the fact that I am a double stuffed man myself, I totally agree with edgar on this.

I am all for taking responsibility and assigning it accordingly, but doesn't that responsibility presume that the consensual consumption was informed consent?

I am not a litigious person and I rarely support those that are, but let's face it:

Sometimes you have to get a corporations attention with a big stick,

and a lawsuit is often that big stick.
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Thu 15 May, 2003 03:23 am
Heh, this ploy was so transparent even I was able to call it.

~Lynn






SF lawyer says he's dropping suit against Oreo cookies

RON HARRIS, Associated Press Writer Wednesday, May 14, 2003

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(05-14) 15:52 PDT SAN FRANCISCO (AP) --

The move to outlaw Oreo cookies in California crumbled Wednesday when the lawyer who tried to ban the tasty snack foods said he had decided to drop his suit.

San Francisco attorney Stephen Joseph told The Associated Press he would not pursue the action any further, and only wanted to get the word out about the dangers of unlabeled fats contained in the popular black and white cookies.

"We have received thousands of e-mails expressing support for what we have done in advising the public of this problem," Joseph said. "But it's no longer necessary to continue the lawsuit because at the time the lawsuit was filed nobody knew about trans fat. Now everybody knows about trans fat."

He expressed no remorse for using California courts as a publicity tool. Kraft spokesman Michael Mudd, however, saw things differently.

"We really don't believe that the courts are the place to make nutrition policy," Mudd said. "That's best handled by nutrition professionals and regulatory agencies."

Mudd said though the suit was filed May 1 and amended four days later, the company was never served with a copy.

Joseph made national headlines earlier this week after word surfaced he had filed suit in a Marin County Superior Court seeking a ban on Oreo sales in the state.

Joseph argued in his suit that the trans fats that make the filling creamy and the cookie crisp are too dangerous for children to eat. Trans fat is the artificial substance contained in many packaged foods but not listed with other nutritional information.

Mudd said Northfield, Ill.-based Kraft Foods North America Inc., the parent company of Oreo-maker Nabisco, continues to research ways to get trans fat out of Oreos while preserving the flavor.

Kraft received more than 250 e-mails concerning trans fat in the days following news of the suit. Most of those e-mails were in support of the company, Mudd said.



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www.bantransfat.com
www.kraft.com
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Thu 15 May, 2003 04:23 am
Butrflynet- Three cheers for Steve Joseph. He accomplished what he wanted without getting stupid about it. With this later knowledge, I applaud him!
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Sugar
 
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Reply Thu 15 May, 2003 07:18 am
I see that Mr. Joseph received my gift delivery from Omaha Steaks. They had a 'spend $50 and get a free cheesecake' deal going on. Everybody loves cheesecake.
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Thu 15 May, 2003 07:27 am
Good on him for not going through and raising awareness. Maybe it is my profession, but I just assumed most people knew about trans fat... Embarrassed
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Heeven
 
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Reply Thu 15 May, 2003 08:09 am
I know ... I know!

Let's get all the food off those supermarket shelves - they can't be relied on to accurately tell us the truth about what they contain anyway, and let's go back to hunting for our own food!

Yoo hoo, Ms. Bunny ... yoohoo ... sweetie, can you tell me how many grams of fat are in your ass! I'd like to have you for dinner!

Ooh wait, I think I'm an endangered species list folks, no shooting! Emu meat ain't good for you. I have this cough see ... ack, ack, I've been a smoker for 20 years an all ...
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New Haven
 
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Reply Thu 15 May, 2003 08:16 am
Sugar wrote:
I see that Mr. Joseph received my gift delivery from Omaha Steaks. They had a 'spend $50 and get a free cheesecake' deal going on. Everybody loves cheesecake.


I like cheesecake, but I LOVE steak!
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Thu 15 May, 2003 08:28 am
Emu is quite lean actually, and generally raised organically, but we will pass on Heeven for medical reasons.
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Heeven
 
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Reply Thu 15 May, 2003 08:36 am
There's nothing organic going on here buddy! Although I will admit my diet does not include oreos. I've never liked the taste of them.
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Thu 15 May, 2003 08:51 am
Emu is cheaper than Ostrich...bottom line Very Happy
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Heeven
 
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Reply Thu 15 May, 2003 08:52 am
Who are you calling cheap? You ... you ... CLOWN!
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Thu 15 May, 2003 08:57 am
Heeven and cavfancier- You both would look great at a party.........on a bed of asparagus, covered with Hollandaise! Laughing
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Heeven
 
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Reply Thu 15 May, 2003 09:05 am
Ick - asparagus - I bet that's supposed to be good for you! Well how good can it be when it makes your pee green?
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mac11
 
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Reply Thu 15 May, 2003 09:07 am
Oreos are bad for you. Is there an adult in this world who doesn't know that?
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bigdice67
 
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Reply Thu 15 May, 2003 09:15 am
Asparagus doesn't turn your pee green, heeven, it just makes it stink to heaven high! <due to sulphuric components...
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New Haven
 
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Reply Thu 15 May, 2003 09:22 am
I love Oreos! Good or bad. Today, no Oreos...what next? Will the animal rights people tell us that Dove soap is an insult to Doves? Will Dove soap be put off the shelves? What will we use in place of Dove?
LifeBuoy! Twisted Evil
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New Haven
 
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Reply Thu 15 May, 2003 09:23 am
Heeven wrote:
Ick - asparagus - I bet that's supposed to be good for you! Well how good can it be when it makes your pee green?


Asparagus is too expensive for me. As far as green pee Question , I don't know.
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