Bible vs. Science

Snood, that's a lie on your part. That is not what the Big Bird said--he very specifically qualified his remarks.

But i'm not surprised to see you pit bull behavior toward someone who levels any criticism at all against any religionist.

RexRed wrote:

Setanta wrote:

You're just behaving like a spoiled child who has been denied his wishes . . . you have no basis upon which reasonably to make such a judgment.

The word of God is my "basis"... (maybe you do listen)

Jer 2:13 For my people have committed two evils; they have forsaken me the fountain of living waters, and hewed them out cisterns, broken cisterns, that can hold no water.

You continue to puke scripture--it proves nothing. Of course, you have succeeded in destroying the thread. You've turned it from a discussion of "Bible v. Science" into a pulpit which all about you and your silly theology.

You're an egomaniac on top of being an inventor of peerless nonsense.

To disprove "reasoning," some reasoning needs to have taken place to begin with--and that is never the case with the drivel you puke all over a thread.

I have not and never will assert that anything can be proven by "biblical" means, other than the idiocy of those who believe it so. It is an absurdity to suggest that i would attempt to prove anything from a biblical source, other than that it is nonsense.

You haven't "taught" anything, Rex. The topic of the thread is "Bible v. Science." All you have contributed is a bravura demonstration of your inability to string together two coherent thoughts on any topic. You babble out meaningless scripture which you then claim proves things which aren't germane to the discussion.

It's all you ever do.

You are not in a position to "hold me" to anything.

I contend that your silly scriptural drivel is both without foudation because the bobble is nothing more than confused folk tales, and, further, that you apply a goofy idiosyncratic interpretation which is not authorized by any standard theologies, be they mainstream or fundamentalist lunatic fringe.

I'm under no obligation to play a scriptural quote game with you, and you have no case to rest.

You have never in this thread--never--established any reasonable contention that the bobble has a scientific basis.

Since you obviously think any thread you appear in is about you, i thought i'd remind you of the topic.

xingu wrote:

Rex

Frank is right. The God of the Bible is evil. He has proven that by his works. You can't dismiss this evil by making two Gods. If your going to claim your a Christian then you have to believe that Christ and the God of the Old testament are one in the same.

This statement of yours;

Quote:

Frank you have magnified an evil God so you only comprehend this evil God. You cannot see the mystery at work underneath it all.

goes against what the Bible says; the existence of one and only one God.

I have seen so called Christians do this before. They are appalled by the barbarism of the OT God and reject him. They say they believe in the NT only. Some even reject Revelations because of the evilness shown by its God.

If your going to look at contradictions in the Bible this good God vs. evil God is one of the great ones. You can't declare God to be pure love and have him slaughter innocent children and babies.

If you want to converse intelligently with me please start reading and studying my posts.
I have taught this TWO GOD thing several times here on A2K

Then who is "the God (Gr. theos) of this world"? DO YOU HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT?

I can say without one shred of doubt that BOTH you and Frank are, WRONG!

You are conversing with someone who has studied this Bible for over twenty years almost every day.

I can tell you confidently there are TWO GODS in the Bible...

You have not been READING my posts...

The God of this world and the one true God.

The FALSE God and the ONE TRUE God.

Now you and Frank have already made up your minds as to which God was "killing babies" and hunting down adulterers and homos with rocks.

So why reconsider anything, TRUTH maybe?

Jesus Christ revealed the One true God AND the god of this world.

NOW if Jesus had to reveal the DIFFERENCE in the gospel administration and you are stuck in the OT adminstration logic BEFORE it was revealed then it is no wonder why you do NOT KNOW the one true God...

The gift of the holy spirit POWER that came to all believers on the day of Pentecost came WITHIN the spirit. One POWER of the spirit was the manifestation to "DISCERN SPIRITS".

Without discerning of spirits the OT "gods" were MOST often perceived as ONE...

Just as a child hides the spanking paddle thinking it is the paddle that does the discipline not the hand the guides the paddle.

So as the law was just a stick of wood that is roughly hewn to discipline humans until the spirit guide fully came.

Jesus Christ was under the law (but he saw the law more compassionately)we are not under this law this is why we can see the two Gods clearly.

Now you can go on in your confusion for the rest of your life or you can give the words of Jesus and the countless mentions of TWO GODS posing as deities throughout the Bible some careful IMPARTIAL consideration.

2Co 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Comment:
Are you saying the ONE True God BLINDED minds from hearing the GLORIOUS Gospel of Christ, his own DEAR son. Ridiculous!

THINK ABOUT IT AGAIN...

So you perceive the mixed OT Gods as one and don't believe the NT revelation of the True God revealed through his son who was the "image" of the one true God?

Sounds like you want a baby killer for a God so you can reject God more easily...

THERE ARE TWO GODS IN THE BIBLE!!!

Adam gave DOMINION over the earth to the devil! Dominion, the DOM part is from kingDOM...

The devil offered Jesus the kingDOMs of the world.

Jesus did not tell the devil he did not own the power of them...

KINGDOMS of the world? That would make the Devil a God to us?

We see how the devil was all chummy buddy buddy with God in the book of Job.?

Yet in the new testament clearly teaches "God has no conversation with evil".

2Co 6:14
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

Comment:
Your boat is sinking, hopefully Frank is bailing water like hell!

So did the OT lie about who God was? NO, NO, NO!

The OT PROPERLY portrayed people and the way they perceived "God". When they are NOT born of spirit WITHIN but only have spirit UPON them "conditionally" (law) then OT is how one sees God.

I can't explain it any clearer than that.

You would take the word of theists over the actual written word of God?

"THE GOD (theos) OF THIS WORLD"... Have your INFALLIBLE theists explain that one.

First, my comment was about the hilariously idiotic contention that you have anything to teach anyone here--therefore, appeals to scripture are meaningless.

In the second place, comparing scripture to science has nothing to do with your silly contention about the number of gods mentioned in the bobble, which happens to be more than two.

If you thought you could make the case that there is a scientific basis for contending that there are two gods in the bobble, you might have a shot at relevance. But that drivel has absolutely nothing to do with the topic, and never did--it's just more of the "it's all about me" of your standard performance.

You cannot, however, tie such a claim into science, since gods are supernatural, and therefore outside the realm of science.

As usual, this is all about your scriptural egomania, and has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

Mr Red, I find it quite amazing that every thread you post on becomes a thread about you from your first post onward, how did you manage to develop such a powerful ego? I'm guessing self-defence or psychotropic meds of some kind or another.

Maybe it was shrooms . . .

Without belaboring Rex's point, no discussion of Bible vs. Science can be clearly undertaken lest the participants understand the contents of the bible as they intersect the discoveries of science. Rex has been caterwauling quite legitimately about misrepresentations of the bible.

Unfortunately, his arguments are often diluted by his own pleonastic explanations. Hence my comment about the sieve.