Bible vs. Science

I see that timber, fm and Setanta have dropped back down to a lower division where the feather dusters fly in a flurry of ignis fatuus.

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neologist wrote:

RexRed wrote:
The Bible specifically states that sin is in the blood.... . .
Where?

Le 17:11
For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.

Ro 6:23
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Ro 8:3
For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

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Neo I am not certain on this one.

The Bible says life is in the blood and that sin is death.

So if the life in the blood, were one to begin to die it would be due to sin.

If there were no sin in the blood there would be no death.

This sin is passed on through siblings like some disease.

I am not sure where the sin is, in the blood or the flesh.

But the blood needs atonement maybe because of the flesh.

"soul is in the blood". I am not exactly where sin resides but the blood or flesh are likely candidates.

If this soul (blood) is in need of atonement and forgiveness of sins it may be sin or death in the blood. The blood is an access point to the flesh and bone.

Sin is death and life is in the blood it would make sense that death would be in the blood too and thus sin also. It seems it is our blood and flesh that needs atonement.

This was why Jesus could not remain in hell. Because he had no sin in his blood.

I am not really sure about some of this (or my memory fails me) and if you could shed some light on the subject Neo or anyone I would like to learn more.

The Aztec were blood hungry... It seems blood is an almost universal substrate for religious ritual.

Life was the gift of God so it would make sense that life would be given back in an offering to appease God. The existence of death in the world would have given the inclination to perceive that original sin was inherent somewhere within ourselves.

That lust boils the blood and provides an occasion for the flesh seems to be the intent in the original sin idea.

So I am really not certain if sin actually resides in the blood (with the soul/life) I may have misspoken on that Neo.

What are your thoughts on it?

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This is from a creationist website describing Noah, dinosaurs and the theme park.

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Convincing the Culture with Dinosaurs
By Lael, Creation Expeditions (website: www.creationexpeditions.org)
"The evolutionary claim that dinosaurs lived millions of years ago directly contradicts the Biblical creation account. The Bible says that God created the land animals on day six of creation, the same day as man. There is no such thing as 'prehistory.' The Bible starts at the beginning: 'In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth' (Genesis 1:1). 'He which made them at the beginning made them male and female' (Matthew 19:4).

"A Biblical interpretation of the dinosaurs is pretty straightforward. God created them on day six. They lived with man from the beginning. (The descriptions of "behemoth" and "leviathan" in Job fit dinosaurs more closely than any other animal; also, it is very likely that dragon legends were actually based on dinosaur stories that became embellished over the years.) Noah took pairs of the different 'kinds' of dinosaurs on the ark. The rest drowned in the flood and were buried in sediments all over the earth. Those that got off the ark after the flood encountered a radically altered world, and most died off due to a variety of factors, such as climate change and differences in the food supply. Click here for the complete article.

Dinosaur Adventure Land shows how quickly fossils can be made
The creationist theme park in Pensacola, Florida, proclaims its offering "Creation Science Evangelism" and says of itself: "Since 2001 Dinosaur Adventure Land has been a place where families can come to learn about God's Creation through science and the Bible. DAL is comprised of a 3 story Science Center, Creation Museum, and Theme Park, making it fun for all ages, and one of the most amazing Creation Parks in the world. Our goal is to win souls to Christ, by giving everyone another choice. You can believe that you came from a rock, or you can believe that a loving God created you for a purpose. Plan your next family vacation, to come to DAL.Thanks for visiting Dinosaur Adventure Land.com, we hope that you will enjoy the site and come to see us very soon."

http://www.jewsonfirst.org/noahspark.html

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Our goal is to win souls to Christ, by giving everyone another choice.

In other words science is out of the question. Creationism and ID is strictly religion despite what IDer's say.

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Sorry but it's so obvious:

Bible is right and everything in it is true

Scientists are jealous of Bible's credibility and so have to keep "supporting" each other in subsequent theories [which are highly paid, incidentally, unlike those Biblical Scolars who never made any money from a tome that happens to be the best selling literary work of all time. Enough said, eh?] and without these so-called "scientists" no alternative to the Biblical theory would exist, right?

It's so bloody obvious!

Cool

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xingu wrote:

This is from a creationist website describing Noah, dinosaurs and the theme park.

Quote:
Convincing the Culture with Dinosaurs
By Lael, Creation Expeditions (website: www.creationexpeditions.org)
"The evolutionary claim that dinosaurs lived millions of years ago directly contradicts the Biblical creation account. The Bible says that God created the land animals on day six of creation, the same day as man. There is no such thing as 'prehistory.' The Bible starts at the beginning: 'In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth' (Genesis 1:1). 'He which made them at the beginning made them male and female' (Matthew 19:4).

"A Biblical interpretation of the dinosaurs is pretty straightforward. God created them on day six. They lived with man from the beginning. (The descriptions of "behemoth" and "leviathan" in Job fit dinosaurs more closely than any other animal; also, it is very likely that dragon legends were actually based on dinosaur stories that became embellished over the years.) Noah took pairs of the different 'kinds' of dinosaurs on the ark. The rest drowned in the flood and were buried in sediments all over the earth. Those that got off the ark after the flood encountered a radically altered world, and most died off due to a variety of factors, such as climate change and differences in the food supply. Click here for the complete article.

Dinosaur Adventure Land shows how quickly fossils can be made
The creationist theme park in Pensacola, Florida, proclaims its offering "Creation Science Evangelism" and says of itself: "Since 2001 Dinosaur Adventure Land has been a place where families can come to learn about God's Creation through science and the Bible. DAL is comprised of a 3 story Science Center, Creation Museum, and Theme Park, making it fun for all ages, and one of the most amazing Creation Parks in the world. Our goal is to win souls to Christ, by giving everyone another choice. You can believe that you came from a rock, or you can believe that a loving God created you for a purpose. Plan your next family vacation, to come to DAL.Thanks for visiting Dinosaur Adventure Land.com, we hope that you will enjoy the site and come to see us very soon."

http://www.jewsonfirst.org/noahspark.html

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Our goal is to win souls to Christ, by giving everyone another choice.

In other words science is out of the question. Creationism and ID is strictly religion despite what IDer's say.

Animals were 'created' earlier, on the sixth day God only 'formed/made' them.

Which means they were 'formed/made' from existing materials.

Literal "creationists" are not reading their Bibles.

When the word created is used in relation to animals in Eden it is saying that God not only formed (body) and made (soul) them but originally (billions of years earlier) he 'created' the materials that he formed and made them from.

So even though God formed the body from the dust of the ground (evolution) ultimately God also 'created' the dust of the ground.

It is no irony that science uses the dust to date things. It is the age of the dust that speaks of the beginning of creation.

The dust is the body part that God formed over time.

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The Bible talks of three heavens and earths.

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Also

Acts 2:1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. 2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. 3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. 4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

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You lost me.

Joe

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Joe Nation wrote:

You lost me.

Joe

No, no, he hasn't lost you, he's just momentarilly just obscurred by fog. Stay put and he'll circle back around in no time; consistency is his strong suite.

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Is he going to come up behind me?

Joe(frightening thoughts)Nation

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Sometimes I only spell out a small amount of what I am saying to see if there is anyone who may know where I am going with the discussion.

Three heavens, three earths...

2Co 12:2
I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven.

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If we circle together and do the camel walk, we'll be safe.

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Joe Nation wrote:

Is he going to come up behind me?

Joe(frightening thoughts)Nation

Have no fear on that account, Joe - those sorts tend to stay out on the firnges.

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Rex,
Take a break and get some perspective[/u] on how we fit into this reality called the universe.

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You mean muggers, right?

I am about to go a fourth or maybe fifth heaven.

I need to go find out the derivation of seventh heaven... Dante?

So, rex, where is this discussion going?

Joe(reality vs fantasy)Nation

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Heavens are not always vertical but they are horizontal too...

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So I always come at a different angle.

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And I have no nature with you.

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Dunno as I'dcall it heaven, really, but ain't nothin' wrong with a fifth of

http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/3153/v17025aj.jpg

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Could certainly contribute to the horizontal.....

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