Bible vs. Science

Since we are talking about Noah and the Ark, kind of, I have a question. What does everyone think of the recent possible find of Noah's ark?

If you haven't heard yet, I can find the link.

RexRed wrote:

Doktor S wrote:

Setanta wrote:

There is no void. Science cannot be accused of suffering from a void because it does not attempt to be what it is not.

Exactly. What rex is saying is no different than saying a toaster 'suffers from a void' because it can't also keep your beer cold.
Rather ridiculous (lack of)reasoning if you ask me.

Considering how dumb science is and how smart God is, yes, it is ridiculous and foolish to argue with the creator.

Way to completely miss the point.

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When is this stuff ever going to click with some of you?

Perhaps if you shared the drugs you were taking when you thought it up?

Setanta wrote:

So, you know this, Rex, because you talk to "God," and she answers?

Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

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When is this stuff ever going to click with some of you?

Doktor S wrote:

RexRed wrote:

Doktor S wrote:

Setanta wrote:

There is no void. Science cannot be accused of suffering from a void because it does not attempt to be what it is not.

Exactly. What rex is saying is no different than saying a toaster 'suffers from a void' because it can't also keep your beer cold.
Rather ridiculous (lack of)reasoning if you ask me.

Considering how dumb science is and how smart God is, yes, it is ridiculous and foolish to argue with the creator.

Way to completely miss the point.

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When is this stuff ever going to click with some of you?

Perhaps if you shared the drugs you were taking when you thought it up?

No real substance to your replies. What point, that science is dumb?

RexRed wrote:

Setanta wrote:

So, you know this, Rex, because you talk to "God," and she answers?

Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Comment:
When is this stuff ever going to click with some of you?

That is a complete nonsequitur. You asserted that: Considering how dumb science is and how smart God is, yes, it is ridiculous and foolish to argue with the creator.

Science is not "smart" or "dumb," it is a term which describes a method for researching naturalistic explanations of the cosmos. Therefore, i asked you how you could know this, unless you are speaking with "God." If you assert that you talk to it, and it answers you, then we're on different ground. None of that is answered, however by a reference to Pauline orthodoxy as expressed in a letter on the subject of the nature of someone Paul never met, and for whom there is not even good evidence that the individual ever existed.

So, to push all of your tripe to the side, how do you know that "science is dumb," and how do you know it is foolish to argue with "the creator." More to the point, how do you know that there is a creator?

It's never going to "click" with me unless and until you can make a plausible argument for your imaginary friend. And don't trot out any more of your scriptural absurdities, you know all those boys would have hated you anyway for your sexual preference.

RexRed wrote:

Doktor S wrote:

RexRed wrote:

Doktor S wrote:

Setanta wrote:

There is no void. Science cannot be accused of suffering from a void because it does not attempt to be what it is not.

Exactly. What rex is saying is no different than saying a toaster 'suffers from a void' because it can't also keep your beer cold.
Rather ridiculous (lack of)reasoning if you ask me.

Considering how dumb science is and how smart God is, yes, it is ridiculous and foolish to argue with the creator.

Way to completely miss the point.

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When is this stuff ever going to click with some of you?

Perhaps if you shared the drugs you were taking when you thought it up?

No real substance to your replies. What point, that science is dumb?

Ok then, let me spell it out, step by step, so that you can understand.
First, you are asserting that science is somehow deficient because it does not allow for/incorporate the supernatural.
Second, it has been established that science is a tool, only concerned with material and empirical matters.
Third, I compared your assertion to a toaster, which serves a specific function, being expected to serve a completely different function to fulfil it's toaster-ness. I was hoping this would open your eyes to the ridiculousness of your original assertion.
Do you understand yet?

You have overestimated science.

Perhaps, all this time, the problem is that rex has been working under a completely different definition of science than the rest of us.

At this point I'm pretty sure rex must think science is some living entity, conscious of it's actions and freely making decisions to oppress the minds of people everywhere.

Science is a corporation

Science in the broadest sense refers to any knowledge or trained skill, especially (but not exclusively) when this is attained by verifiable means.[1] The word science also describes any systematic field of study or the knowledge gained from such study. In a more restricted sense, science refers to a system of acquiring knowledge based on empiricism, experimentation, and methodological naturalism, as well as to the organized body of knowledge humans have gained by such research

Considering how dumb science is and how smart God is, yes, it is ridiculous and foolish to argue with the creator.

Rex wrote:

Considering how dumb science is and how smart God is, yes, it is ridiculous and foolish to argue with the creator.

Smart you say. God's solution to all problems is to kill everyone; kill them all; men, women, children and infants.

Look at the Flood for example. God was angry because his creation wouldn't listen to him. So what's his intelligent solution?

KILL EM ALL. He even killed the animals because, well they were wicked as well.

I guess people like you like that kind of stuff. Nice, direct, simple and barbaric.

Science is manmade; The Truth is God made. :wink:

No use xingu. It's like arguing with five year old kids.

So, now, an event of worldwide importance which has left no evidenceand is the basis of lots of the claptrap that guys like rex buy into without any evidence or testable proof, it has now been caused by another mythical creature who we toss off all the badstuff.
Dont you have some trouble stayin up with all your own bullshit there rex?

Im concerened because only 2 consitions can logically prevail
1Your own touch on reality is less than tangential
or
2 You think that were dumb enough to buy your tales of the supernatural.

Im betting on number 1.

Now I say the immeasurable is measured by the human heart not science, and by the breath of understanding that only the infinite can spiritually impart.