xingu
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 06:25 am
And you to Momma Laughing
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RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 04:44 pm
Happy fourth all! God Bless America
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 04:50 pm
And God Bless Our Troops!http://www.smileys.ws/smls/yahoo/00000042.gif
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RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 05:20 pm
Momma Angel wrote:
And God Bless Our Troops!http://www.smileys.ws/smls/yahoo/00000042.gif


I thank God now for the safety of each and every freedom fighter and I thank God for peace and liberty to fill the hearts of all the world and end terror forever, AMEN.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 05:35 pm
And I am in agreement with that RexReed!
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RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 06:19 pm
Deuteronomy 4:7
For what nation is there so great, who hath God so nigh unto them, as the LORD our God is in all things that we call upon him for?

Psalms 33:12
Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD; and the people whom he hath chosen for his own inheritance.

Isaiah 26:2
Open ye the gates, that the righteous nation which keepeth the truth may enter in.

Isaiah 60:22
A little one shall become a thousand, and a small one a strong nation: I the LORD will hasten it in his time.

Psalms 144:15
Happy is that people, that is in such a case: yea, happy is that people, whose God is the LORD.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 06:36 pm
"When you march up to attack a city, first offer terms of peace.
If it agrees to your terms of peace and opens its gates to you,
all the people to be found in it shall serve you in forced labor.
But if it refuses to make peace with you and instead offers you
battle, lay siege to it, and when the Lord, your God, delivers it
into your hand, put every male in it to the sword, but the women
and children and livestock and all else in it that is worth
plunder you may take as your booty and you may use this plunder
of your enemies which the Lord, your God, has given you."

Deuteronomy 20:10
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 06:45 pm
Frank,

You are well within your legal rights to post whatever you want whenever you want. And, out of respect for the men and women that have died for this country to give you this right, Happy Independence Day Frank! May you always enjoy the freedoms so selflessly given to you!
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 07:19 pm
Momma Angel wrote:
Frank,

You are well within your legal rights to post whatever you want whenever you want. And, out of respect for the men and women that have died for this country to give you this right, Happy Independence Day Frank! May you always enjoy the freedoms so selflessly given to you!


I was in service. Were you????

I fight for those freedoms now...while the conservative agenda is tearing them into pieces.

I have the decency and honor to respect...and desire to preserve...those freedoms...unlike the conservative hypocrites of this country that wrap themselves in the flag while pissing on our country and its ideals.

I wish you a Happy Independence Day in return, MA.

How about joining me in respecting the freedoms so selflessly give to you?
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RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 07:24 pm
Frank Apisa wrote:
"When you march up to attack a city, first offer terms of peace.
If it agrees to your terms of peace and opens its gates to you,
all the people to be found in it shall serve you in forced labor.
But if it refuses to make peace with you and instead offers you
battle, lay siege to it, and when the Lord, your God, delivers it
into your hand, put every male in it to the sword, but the women
and children and livestock and all else in it that is worth
plunder you may take as your booty and you may use this plunder
of your enemies which the Lord, your God, has given you."

Deuteronomy 20:10


Frank there were radical differences and ancient conflicts between these people back then.

You seem to act as if you have a greater understanding of what made morality under those conditions.

Just because it is different today does not mean that it was not necessary for it to be the way it was back then. How many males die in war anyway?

These are for our learning and not meant to be taken as the way to live today. The are to be learned from not thrown back in the face of God as if you are some infallible judge...

Instead of putting the people to work Frank would you suggest they just kill all of the thousands of displaced people?

I really don't know what your saying?
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 07:30 pm
RexRed wrote:
Frank Apisa wrote:
"When you march up to attack a city, first offer terms of peace.
If it agrees to your terms of peace and opens its gates to you,
all the people to be found in it shall serve you in forced labor.
But if it refuses to make peace with you and instead offers you
battle, lay siege to it, and when the Lord, your God, delivers it
into your hand, put every male in it to the sword, but the women
and children and livestock and all else in it that is worth
plunder you may take as your booty and you may use this plunder
of your enemies which the Lord, your God, has given you."

Deuteronomy 20:10


Frank there were radical differences and ancient conflicts between these people back then.

You seem to act as if you have a greater understanding of what made morality under those conditions.

Just because it is different today does not mean that it was not necessary for it to be the way it was back then. How many males die in war anyway?

These are for our learning and not meant to be taken as the way to live today. The are to be learned from not thrown back in the face of God as if you are some infallible judge...

Instead of putting the people to work Frank would you suggest they just kill all of the thousands of displaced people?

I really don't know what your saying?


I'm saying that if you think your god said the things the Bible says your god said...

...you ought be taking those things more seriously.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 07:30 pm
I will NOT banter with you over the rights that our troops are fighting for Frank. If you were in the service then I thank you from the bottom of my heart for what you did for this country. I will always respect that in you, Frank, always.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 07:31 pm
"If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them shall be
put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their
lives." Leviticus 20:13
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 07:32 pm
"If a man has a stubborn and unruly son who will not listen to
his father or mother, and will not obey them even though they
chastise him, his father and mother shall have him apprehended
and brought out to the elders at the gate of his home city, where
...his fellow citizens shall stone him to death."

Deuteronomy 22:18ff
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 07:34 pm
Momma Angel wrote:
I will NOT banter with you over the rights that our troops are fighting for Frank.


No need to banter, MA.

You wrote something to me...I responded to what you wrote.

I know you espouse the conservative agenda view of things...and I merely wanted to point out that American conservatives are attacking our rights in ways foreign enemies will never match.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 07:35 pm
Love one another, as I have loved you....
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 07:37 pm
Momma Angel wrote:
Love one another, as I have loved you....




"I, the Lord, your God, am a jealous God, inflicting punishments
for their fathers' wickedness on the children of those who hate
me, down to the third and fourth generation." Deuteronomy 5:9
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 07:41 pm
Frank,

You have presumed to align me with the conservatives that you seem to hate so much and yet, you have no real clue as to what I believe in or don't. You've been told over and over again but to no avail.

I'm beginning to think you want the Old Testament laws to be in force Frank. Then, you'd think you would have an excuse to spew hate, wouldn't you?

Right now, you do a great disservice to the troops. It's sad to see. Very sad. But, I will defend your right to say whatever you want whenever you want to say it. I just don't have to like it.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 07:45 pm
when does the vs. science part start up? This sounds like dueling dogmas.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 08:03 pm
Momma Angel wrote:
Frank,

You have presumed to align me with the conservatives that you seem to hate so much and yet, you have no real clue as to what I believe in or don't. You've been told over and over again but to no avail.


You have assigned yourself to the conservative movement, MA. Stop bullshytting. Your god doesn't like it.


Quote:

I'm beginning to think you want the Old Testament laws to be in force Frank. Then, you'd think you would have an excuse to spew hate, wouldn't you?


I don't spew hate. I am "spewing" truth.

Try dealing with it.

Try looking at the god you seem to think so much of.


Quote:
Right now, you do a great disservice to the troops.


Get off that phony patriotic bullshyt, MA. I have as much (MY GUESS IS A LOT MORE) respect for the troops...and for the kinds of prices the military pay these days...

...than you do.

Wake the hell up.


Quote:

It's sad to see. Very sad. But, I will defend your right to say whatever you want whenever you want to say it. I just don't have to like it.[/color][/b]


What is sad is that there are people who still buy into the phony, hypocritical American conservative crap...and who post all sorts of flag-drapping hyprocrisy.

That is what is sad. Very sad.
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