Why do we bear children and rear them?

shewolfnm wrote:

snood wrote:
Not a one - any special reason you ran their credentials?

The same reason as , when I talk about little Bean, I drop all kinds of hints and stories about what she is doing.

A parents pride is blinding and endless.
We take any chance we can to talk about our little ones. ;-)
No matter how old they are.

Would they be any less yours, or any less talked about, if they were homeless, jobless, delinquent?

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snood, you don't have to be a jerk all the time.

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snood wrote:

Would they be any less yours, or any less talked about, if they were homeless, jobless, delinquent?

That would be a yes and no answer.

From my stand point / opinion only..

Would I brag about Jillian as an adult if she were homeless?
No. Honestly.
It would be an embarassment in a social setting, to watch and hear people judge her for what she has done. Judge ME as a parent for where she is , and treat US as 'diffrent'.

This would not change how I feel about her as her parent.
But it would change my social behavior when it comes to discussing her.
Not because I would be embarassed at what she choose, but because peoples reactions to her as a person and me as her parent would hurt.

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Why would any upper middle class married ( to a man )woman, law school-educated, give up the practice of the law to be a 'stay-at-home" mom and raise 6-8 of her own children?

What a waste of human potential!

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smog wrote:

snood, you don't have to be a jerk all the time.

I'm asking a question about pride and parenthood. I was homeless, and indigent, and my family has had a lot of issues with some siblings being more "loveable" than others, at times in their lives. I don't know what your problem is, but since you are calling me names for no reason, maybe you're the biggest "jerk" here.

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I apologize. I really do.

Still, you don't have to forgive me. It's the Internet. I'll understand.

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snood wrote:

shewolfnm wrote:
snood wrote:
Not a one - any special reason you ran their credentials?

The same reason as , when I talk about little Bean, I drop all kinds of hints and stories about what she is doing.

A parents pride is blinding and endless.
We take any chance we can to talk about our little ones. ;-)
No matter how old they are.

Would they be any less yours, or any less talked about, if they were homeless, jobless, delinquent?

Snood- I can see why smog said what he did because of the difficulty in gauging the tone of what you'd asked. It is sad your family played now you see it now you don't with who was lovable and who wasn't. Here's hoping you can blaze new territory with your kids.

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Eh, I still shouldn't have behaved like that....

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Smog - I understand, looking back over the thread, why you said that. I wasn't very clear....

I think probably there's a lesson for everyone in kids that don't come up to be superstars, or successful in the way we want them to be. Things about humility, and not having as much control as we might think...

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timberlandko wrote:

snood wrote:
timberlandko wrote:
I think its prolly good brothers and sisters generally decide against it ... some things are best NOT kept in the family :wink:

You got kids, timber?

Yeah, 2; one's a Field Grade Marine Corps officer, closing on his 20, with 2 kids of his own, the other is a multiply degreed and certificated Special Ed teacher, the mother of 3, the eldest of whom this year entered a major university. You?

Timberlandko: Please thank that fine young man of yours for me. And tell him that we remember, both what he has done for us, and the friends he has lost.

That sounds (and no doubt is) pretty inadequate, but is nonetheless sincerely meant.

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Miller wrote:

Why would any upper middle class married ( to a man )woman, law school-educated, give up the practice of the law to be a 'stay-at-home" mom and raise 6-8 of her own children?

What a waste of human potential!

Quite agree that.
What is the most treasurable in being a woman?I think it's her ability to bear and raise her own children.No matter what great achievements she made in her career,if she give up the practice of motherhood,which is the most treassueble in a woman,she is nothing more than a slave of her career.

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Miller wrote:

Why would any upper middle class married ( to a man )woman, law school-educated, give up the practice of the law to be a 'stay-at-home" mom and raise 6-8 of her own children?

What a waste of human potential!

thats pretty damn funny. Rolling Eyes

I have a degree.
I worked as a nurse for 9 years.
Everything from in home care to Er/trauma

Guess what I do right now?

Stay at home ( mostly ) to raise 'one of my own'

Waste of human potential?

you cant be serious..

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You are right ,I misunderstood what Miller wrote,i don't agree Miller.

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Miller wrote:

Why would any upper middle class married ( to a man )woman, law school-educated, give up the practice of the law to be a 'stay-at-home" mom and raise 6-8 of her own children?

What a waste of human potential!

I don't agree that it is necessarily a waste of human potential.

I do get it though. Some women choose to get a high-level education, and then practice and actively work for a short period of time (or not at all!), then leave in order to stay home and be a full time mother.
In those cases: well, it is their choice.
But it does make me think "what a waste of a good education!"
Sure, her children will definetly benefit from having a highly educated mom.
And that counts for a lot.

Still, it's the question of how much a human being who has had the priveledge of a wonderful education is obligated/expected to contribute back to the soceity and community.

IMO, it is a waste to educate yourself only to not use it to a reasonable extent.
It's like cheating other people of the benefit and service you could be providing.

That goes for men too.

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But as we know ,there are more elite women chose not to bear kids than ever before.

Indeed! A very interesting point.
One should keep in mind that the 'career women' phenomenon is relatively slow. The effects of selection on the other hand are very slow. In time, and im not sure how long, the effect will be to reduce the number of these women, due to the effects of age on fertitlity and women 'putting off' having kids for their career.

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Why would any upper middle class married ( to a man )woman, law school-educated, give up the practice of the law to be a 'stay-at-home" mom and raise 6-8 of her own children?

What a waste of human potential!

Waste of human potential? Tough! We all have lots of potential, but we also all have our place. The said women will be handed the box of tissues at the fertitlity center if she persists. There are reasons for why things are like they are. Women should not persue careers at the expense of themselves.

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We have kids because that's what nature tells us to do. None of us would be here if nature didn't nudge us towards offspring.

As for the potential wasted in a woman...for some yes, it is. Because some women aren't happy after quitting their career and becoming a mom. But others find it to be more fulfilling than any out-of-the-home career they could ever have had. Their greatest potential is to be a mother. So what if she also has a degree in astrophysics. If she didn't enjoy astrophysics as much as being a mom, what good does that do her?

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RaceDriver205 wrote:

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One should keep in mind that the 'career women' phenomenon is relatively slow. The effects of selection on the other hand are very slow. In time, and im not sure how long, the effect will be to reduce the number of these women, due to the effects of age on fertitlity and women 'putting off' having kids for their career.

The "career women" phenomenon is mainly in western countries,and there seems a trend that more and more educated women in these countries 'putting off' having kids for their career.As a result of that the populations in most western countries are ceased to increase.On the contrary,the populations in most islamic countries are increasing rapidly.
according to your point of view,the people there will quickly outnumber those in western countries.

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This "waste of potential" stuff also seems to assume that once a stay-at-home mom, always a stay-at-home mom. I worked outside the home for about 10 years before I had my kid, continued to work from home in my field for a while after she was born, and plan to go back to work once she is in school all day (if only part time).

So if I work until I'm 60, say, only about 6 of those years will have been as a stay-at-home mom, with another 34 years or so of being in the workforce.

Giving birth doesn't erase one's education or experience.

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On the other hand, if some highly educated women who choose to stay home and raise their children (never entering the public workforce) feel their education is beneficial to that endeavor, how is that a "waste of potential"?

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Nods to the last two posts.

The more we learn, the more we have to teach our children. And child rearing ends at some point while our lives continue on well after our children are grown, giving us ample opportunity to share our talents with society and contribute to the workforce.

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