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Abortion.What do you think about it?

 
 
Chumly
 
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Reply Sun 28 May, 2006 10:42 pm
snood wrote:
Chumly wrote:
snood wrote:
Chumly wrote:
There appears to be a direct correlation between sexual ignorance and likablity in your eyes, but clearly not in either Jane's nor mine.
If you admire incompetent, guilt ridden, naïve, ignorant boobs in bed, that's great for you........I guess.


sorry, I missed the part where RL said he "admired incompetent, guilt ridden, naive, ignorant boobs in bed". What post was that?
You tried the same tact (to no net effect) prior with one of William Shatner's posts. The nugatory literalism argument is overtly weak.


And your putting words in people's mouths and knocking down your specious strawmen ain't real impressive, either.
Some day you might understand the word "if" but then again I have my doubts; the copy paste of your clearly misapplied term "strawman" adds much needed levity however, so carry on.
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real life
 
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Reply Sun 28 May, 2006 11:03 pm
dyslexia wrote:
It has been brought to my attention that the majority of abortions performed in western europe/north america are for ladies who practice abstinence only. Since bc is out of the question their only alternative is abortion. It has also been pointed out to me that practioners of abstinence only more often than not get married for the sole reason of having legitimate sex, which results in higher than average divorce rates.


Why would a woman who abstains from sexual behavior need an abortion?

Not sure who 'brought this to your attention', but it sounds like they cut and pasted it from 'The Onion'

Probably it originally accompanied this article from same:
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/48743

Chinese Employers To Grant 15-Minute Maternity Break

Quote:
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 28 May, 2006 11:20 pm
I would have thought ten minutes would have been sufficient.
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nimh
 
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Reply Mon 29 May, 2006 05:03 am
real life wrote:
nimh wrote:
Are you seriously positing the argument that there is no substantial difference in the number of women who end up dead or seriously ill through botched operations when abortion is legal and practiced in bona fide hospitals and clinics, or when they are done secretly in back alleys?

[..] Yeah, "bona fide clinics" that often are subject to fewer regulations than the booth that pierces kids ears at the mall.

OK, so you do seriously believe that the doctors who perform abortions in clinics now do no better a job than the random quack who'd be performing it in the metaphorical back alley if abortion was illegal.

Well, that seems a position beyond the rational. Unless, of course, you know of some data about the percentage of women who become the victim of botched operations now, in your country, versus the percentage in times or places where abortion was practiced illegally, which shows there is barely a difference.

I'm sure it would be easy to find three dozen stories about botched heart operations to post here, gathered from among the 10,000s of such operations taking place every year. That, of course, doesnt prove zilch about the safety of heart operations. If you're positing that there would really be no more botched operations in "back-alley" conditions than there are now, you'll need more than random anecdote by ways of evidence, you'd need some comparative data.

Of course, there aren't any, but then, I'm guessing, you don't care what happens with those women who would have back-alley abortions anyway - they're just sinful hussies who should know better, I suppose.
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spendius
 
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Reply Mon 29 May, 2006 06:04 pm
nimh wrote-

More of them might know better if it was a bit dangerous than they would if it is made easy. I think that might be true.

Eradication is not a possibilty but reduction might be.
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real life
 
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Reply Mon 29 May, 2006 11:01 pm
nimh wrote:
real life wrote:
nimh wrote:
Are you seriously positing the argument that there is no substantial difference in the number of women who end up dead or seriously ill through botched operations when abortion is legal and practiced in bona fide hospitals and clinics, or when they are done secretly in back alleys?

[..] Yeah, "bona fide clinics" that often are subject to fewer regulations than the booth that pierces kids ears at the mall.

OK, so you do seriously believe that the doctors who perform abortions in clinics now do no better a job than the random quack who'd be performing it in the metaphorical back alley if abortion was illegal.

.....you'd need some comparative data.

Of course, there aren't any, but then, I'm guessing....


If you're saying there is no comparative data and that I am guessing, then you must be guessing, too. Right?

Of course you are, but besides that, it misses the point of the whole abortion question anyhow.

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Actually, I had made no statement regarding the number of women, then or now, who are injured or die from botched abortions. I simply noted that it happens whether abortion is legal or not. (Each one is a terrible loss, and should not have happened.)

But there is a huge increase of the number of unborn children who are chemically burned to death, hacked to pieces with a scalpel or sucked thru a vacuum and dismembered due to legal abortion compared to when it was illegal.

Do you care to dispute that?

And that's the whole point. Abortion is the violent, brutal extermination of an unborn child.

Is it tragic that a woman dies in attempting to break the law and get an abortion where it is not permitted? Yes.

But making abortion legal does not end the killing. It increases it manyfold.

The unborn is not 'just a part of the woman's body'. He/she has a body of his/her very own. This body is genetically distinct from the moment of conception. It has a unique DNA pattern that shows that it is NOT part of the mother, though it is residing in and protected (hopefully) by her.

Ignoring the medical evidence that shows the unborn is a unique living human being is stock-in-trade for the pro-abortion crowd. They must ignore medical fact and use semantic dodges to keep from discussing the medical status of the unborn in a forthright manner.

Keep those eyes wide shut. It's the only way to stay pro-abortion. The more you learn of the medical status of the unborn, the more pro-life you will become. Don't say you weren't warned.
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Scott777ab
 
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Reply Tue 30 May, 2006 12:09 am
That it is legalized murder. Plain and simple.
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Chumly
 
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Reply Tue 30 May, 2006 02:06 am
Scott777ab wrote:
That it is legalized murder. Plain and simple.
So is masturbation. Plain and simple. Murdering all those millions of babies to be.
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nimh
 
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Reply Tue 30 May, 2006 04:04 am
spendius wrote:
More of them might know better if it was a bit dangerous than they would if it is made easy. I think that might be true.

Eradication is not a possibilty but reduction might be.

Ah yes - the fate of the women suffering botched operations by quacks in back alleys as a useful deterrence. What a lovely world view.
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material girl
 
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Reply Tue 30 May, 2006 04:27 am
I saw on the news this weekend that 10,000 women a year are having abortions, at home!!!
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prettyrussian
 
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Reply Tue 30 May, 2006 05:32 am
I love the way the people who are for abortion have given NO good argument to support their view.Totally agree with you material girl and all those against abortion.P.S I am telling the truth they just want to weaken my argument by accusing me of lying.It doesn't work guys we can see through you!
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Scott777ab
 
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Reply Tue 30 May, 2006 04:09 pm
Chumly wrote:
Scott777ab wrote:
That it is legalized murder. Plain and simple.
So is masturbation. Plain and simple. Murdering all those millions of babies to be.


Sorry I must disagree. Life begins at conception.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Tue 30 May, 2006 04:13 pm
prettyrussian wrote:
I love the way the people who are for abortion have given NO good argument to support their view.Totally agree with you material girl and all those against abortion.P.S I am telling the truth they just want to weaken my argument by accusing me of lying.It doesn't work guys we can see through you!

Please do post again after passing puberty/adulthood.
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Chumly
 
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Reply Tue 30 May, 2006 05:05 pm
Scott777ab wrote:
Chumly wrote:
Scott777ab wrote:
That it is legalized murder. Plain and simple.
So is masturbation. Plain and simple. Murdering all those millions of babies to be.


Sorry I must disagree. Life begins at conception.
So sperm are not alive?
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Scott777ab
 
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Reply Tue 30 May, 2006 06:24 pm
The bible specifcalley says God creates us in the womb.

THe Spirit and Soul do not enter into the sperm or egg untill conception. At conception you have a living being.

THanks for your misguided posts again though.
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Tue 30 May, 2006 06:45 pm
Why misguided? Just because you believe what the bible says
doesn't mean you're right.
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Scott777ab
 
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Reply Tue 30 May, 2006 07:36 pm
CalamityJane wrote:
Why misguided? Just because you believe what the bible says
doesn't mean you're right.


You right, just believing in God dont mean squat either.
The bible says the demons believe and tremble.
Why
Cuase they know they are going to hell.

Its not me that is right it is GOD that is right and every man is a LIAR.
God can not lie.

Have fun.
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Doktor S
 
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Reply Tue 30 May, 2006 07:41 pm
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God can not lie.

I guess that means he isn't omnipotent after all
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Scott777ab
 
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Reply Tue 30 May, 2006 07:42 pm
That post made no sense.

Have fun.
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Doktor S
 
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Reply Tue 30 May, 2006 07:49 pm
Scott777ab wrote:
That post made no sense.

Have fun.

You certainly aren't the sharpest tool in the shed, are you?
If god 'can not lie', that is something he can not do.
If there is something he can not do, he is not all powerful.
ruminate on that.
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