nimh wrote:real life wrote:nimh wrote:Are you seriously positing the argument that there is no substantial difference in the number of women who end up dead or seriously ill through botched operations when abortion is legal and practiced in bona fide hospitals and clinics, or when they are done secretly in back alleys?
[..] Yeah, "bona fide clinics" that often are subject to fewer regulations than the booth that pierces kids ears at the mall.
OK, so you
do seriously believe that the doctors who perform abortions in clinics now do no better a job than the random quack who'd be performing it in the metaphorical back alley if abortion was illegal.
.....you'd need some comparative data.
Of course, there aren't any, but then, I'm guessing....
If you're saying there is no comparative data and that I am guessing, then you must be guessing, too. Right?
Of course you are, but besides that, it misses the point of the whole abortion question anyhow.
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Actually, I had made no statement regarding the number of women, then or now, who are injured or die from botched abortions. I simply noted that it happens whether abortion is legal or not. (Each one is a terrible loss, and should not have happened.)
But there is a huge increase of the number of unborn children who are chemically burned to death, hacked to pieces with a scalpel or sucked thru a vacuum and dismembered due to legal abortion compared to when it was illegal.
Do you care to dispute that?
And that's the whole point. Abortion is the violent, brutal extermination of an unborn child.
Is it tragic that a woman dies in attempting to break the law and get an abortion where it is not permitted? Yes.
But making abortion legal does not end the killing. It increases it manyfold.
The unborn is not 'just a part of the woman's body'. He/she has a body of his/her very own. This body is genetically distinct from the moment of conception. It has a unique DNA pattern that shows that it is NOT part of the mother, though it is residing in and protected (hopefully) by her.
Ignoring the medical evidence that shows the unborn is a unique living human being is stock-in-trade for the pro-abortion crowd. They must ignore medical fact and use semantic dodges to keep from discussing the medical status of the unborn in a forthright manner.
Keep those eyes wide shut. It's the only way to stay pro-abortion. The more you learn of the medical status of the unborn, the more pro-life you will become. Don't say you weren't warned.