Corruption as an issue in the 2006 US elections

slkshock7 wrote:

Advocate wrote:
Silk, so your view is that if Clinton did it then it is OK for Bush and the other Republicans.

Wow!

Advocate,

I said no such thing. In fact, I specifically stated that "both should be faulted..." Are you arguing that the sleeping watchdog should be more harshly punished than the burglar? Double Wow!

Quite the comparison there. One sleeps and didn't get the contract right. The other SEES the contract isn't right but lets the burglar ransack the house for 6 years under the excuse the sleeping one left the door unlocked. I would have the opposite opinion of who is more to blame here.

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The Clinton administration had it right when it provided for nullification of the program should oil prices rise a certain amount. As expected, the Bush administration ignored this trigger to further benefit the already rich oil companies. To call the Bush administration a watchdog is quite a joke.

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Advocate,

The trigger was forgotten in the contract. Both were at fault.

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Quote:

Papers Show Bush Allies' Inside Access
By JOHN SOLOMON and SHARON THEIMER, Associated Press Writers
4:01 AM PDT, September 21, 2006

WASHINGTON -- A visit to the White House would be considered a once-in-a-lifetime treat for most Americans. For conservative tax strategist Grover Norquist it could be considered a common event.

White House officials say Norquist, who runs the nonprofit Americans for Tax Reform, was cleared for 97 visits to the White House complex between 2001 and 2006 -- a couple of times a month if spread evenly over the five-year period.

A half-dozen of the visits were to events that involved the president.

The Bush administration on Wednesday released Secret Service visit records to settle a lawsuit by the Democratic Party and an ethics watchdog group seeking visitors logs for Norquist, fellow Republican activist Ralph Reed and other figures in the Jack Abramoff lobbying scandal.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/wire/ats-ap_top14sep21,0,1033963.story

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There is a steady disintegration of the federal government under the leadership of the Bush administration.

The inspector general of the Interior Department recently reported a pattern of ethical lapses, including coverups of incompetence and cronyism.

The VA was attacked for not protecting the privacy of its records, and for serious financial and financial-reporting problems.

An Education Department director improperly steered large textbook contracts to favorite companies of the right political persuasion. The director adversely affected the impartiality of agency advisory boards.

The Food and Drug Administration is in basic disarray, adversely affecting the approval process for new drugs.

The FAA is wasting tens of millions of dollars by not properly supervising the performance of certain contracts.

Thus, it is clear that the taxpayers are not getting their money's worth under this administration.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/22/AR2006092200828.html?referrer=email

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/22/AR2006092201547.html?referrer=email

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blueflame1 wrote:

Internal poll: Hastert may devastate GOP http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,218043,00.html

Includes this: "By nearly a 2-1 ratio, voters say Democrats are better at combating corruption".

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nimh wrote:

blueflame1 wrote:
Internal poll: Hastert may devastate GOP http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,218043,00.html

Includes this: "By nearly a 2-1 ratio, voters say Democrats are better at combating corruption".

Except of course,for the democrats that have gone to jail or been kicked out of congress for corruption,or for having sex with minors,or for other misconduct,right?

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MM, are there any recent charges against Dems, other than Jefferson? He has not even been charged yet.

I think that the public correctly perceives that the Republicans are corrupt.

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Advocate wrote:

MM, are there any recent charges against Dems, other than Jefferson? He has not even been charged yet.

I think that the public correctly perceives that the Republicans are corrupt.

So,that means that the dems are better at hiding their crimes,thats all.

The point is,for the dems to claim that they are totally innocent of any types of corruption is completely silly.
Dems like Rostenkowski,Mel McDaniels,Jefferson,and Gerry Stubbs are conclusive proof that the dems are also corrupt.
The difference is,the dems applaud and honor corruption and criminal behavior on the part of their own,while the repubs dont (at least openly) do that.

For the dems to criticize the repubs without criticizing their own seems hypocritical.

As an example,,what dems have called for the resignation of Jefferson?
Why hasnt he been censured or removed from his committee positions?
That is what the dems are demanding happen to repubs,so why arent they doing the same to their own?

If the dems want to lead,they should lead by example.

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Jeb Bush Hides From Protesters In a Closet During Santorum Event... http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06280/728177-53.stm

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Advocate wrote:

MM, are there any recent charges against Dems, other than Jefferson? He has not even been charged yet.

I think that the public correctly perceives that the Republicans are corrupt.

What charges have been brought against Foley?
I am NOT defending what he did,but you seem perfectly willing to convict him now,even though there have been no charges filed against him.

Why are you not willing to accord him the same treatment you are giving Jefferson?

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Heard on NPR this morning that, according to a Gallup poll, corruption is the third most important issue to American voters for this election. Why does it take a sex scandal to make us give a ****?

http://www.pollingreport.com/prioriti.htm

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A TALE OF TWO LAND DEALS

Of Harry Reid, Dennis Hastert, and dubious self-enrichment.

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I doubt, nimh, that 1 in a 100,000; nay 1 in a million have ever heard of Harry Reid. And if they had, they wouldn't know or care that he was a Demorcrat. He would just be part of "that corrupt bunch in Washington."
Strangely, despite Mr Reid's problems, it could in theory hurt the Repubs more then the Dems.

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