Mission Accomplished!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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This is the third anniversary of Bush's dress up event. It would be hilarious if not tragic.

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http://www.christianiraq.com/photos/0505/voa/voa0520.jpg

Yup. Mission Accomplished.

Now if those pesky insurgents would just surrender, the Peace can be accomplished.

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Yes, the fact that a war is difficult is certainly sufficient reason not to undertake it. Of course, all of the wars in history have been quick and clean.

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....and necessary, of course.

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...and just. Don't forget just.

At least, for the winner...

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Oh, Roxxxanne... where do you get these silly ideas of yours?

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THE PRESIDENT: Thank you all very much. Admiral Kelly, Captain Card, officers and sailors of the USS Abraham Lincoln, my fellow Americans: Major combat operations in Iraq have ended. In the battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed. (Applause.) And now our coalition is engaged in securing and reconstructing that country

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/05/20030501-15.html

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2260 US soldiers have lost their lives in Iraq since major combat was declared over by George W. Bush May 1, 2003.
Conservative estimate of US wounded is 18000.

http://www.newshounds.us/war_dead_injured/

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From the quote:

"And now our coalition is engaged in securing and reconstructing that country"

I don't see that has changed. Are you suggesting otherwise?

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blacksmithn wrote:

...and just. Don't forget just.

At least, for the winner...

Of course, failure to verifiably comply with his Gulf War 1 surrender treaty after 12 years does not justify enforcement of said treaty on that paragon of virtue and innocence, Saddam Hussein.

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That green zone is ALMOST secure at this point, down to one or two attacks a week on it. Pretty soon we can start on the rest of the country.

I didn't realize that securing and reconstruction cost more in lives than major combat operations. Maybe we shouldn't have ended major combat. It might have been cheaper in dollars and lives to continue with combat.

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McGentrix wrote:

From the quote:

"And now our coalition is engaged in securing and reconstructing that country"

I don't see that has changed. Are you suggesting otherwise?

We have failed to secure Iraq, all we did was scatter the enemy into hiding and they have been fighting us ever since. Look at how many people have died since then on both sides. Major combat has not been over since he uttered those stupid words.

As for the reconstuction:

U.S. Has End in Sight on Iraq Rebuilding

Even if he had been sucessful, I would have still been against the war for the simple reason that we were never in any direct danger from Iraq, but everything since then has only proved all the anti Iraq war people right. So we got Saddam Hussien, there are a lot of other "evil" dictators in the world. We are not the world's police, judge and jurry and I wish we would refrain from acting like it.

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I appreciate your position and understand your feelings. I just hold a different opinion about it.

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fight fight kill kill it's justified it's justified... just don't expect me to get my hands dirty... right fellas? Laughing

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blueveinedthrobber wrote:

fight fight kill kill it's justified it's justified... just don't expect me to get my hands dirty... right fellas?

Of course, in the early 40s, anyone believing that WW2 was justified was obligated to immediately join the military. Every argument in favor of WW2 was incorrect if the speaker was not in the army.

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Brandon9000 wrote:

blueveinedthrobber wrote:
fight fight kill kill it's justified it's justified... just don't expect me to get my hands dirty... right fellas?

Of course, in the early 40s, anyone believing that WW2 was justified was obligated to immediately join the military. Every argument in favor of WW2 was incorrect if the speaker was not in the army.

good to know.... your point? Laughing

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Funny, I wondered the same thing...

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I believe his point is that it's okay for him to advocate sending others to fight and die in his stead because he would've done the same thing in the 1940s.

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Isn't that a soldiers job? Why else would have a standing army?

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blacksmithn wrote:

I believe his point is that it's okay for him to advocate sending others to fight and die in his stead because he would've done the same thing in the 1940s.

My point is that the citizens of a country will often have an opinion that this war is justified, but that one is not, and that having the opinion that some war is justified in no way obligates the person to rush off and enlist. Also, the fact that someone believes that a war is necessary, but is not himself in the army, does not constitute immoral conduct. In short, the whole line of argument, of which BVT's post is typical, is baloney.

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I think Brandon just reassured himself about something that may have been bothering him...

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Mission Accomplished!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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