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WHAT HAPPENED ABOUT AVIAN FLU?

 
 
Badboy
 
Reply Wed 26 Apr, 2006 07:00 am
i DON'T SEEM TO HAVE HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT IT RECENTLY(last 3 weeks or so),has anything more happened with it?
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farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 26 Apr, 2006 07:05 am
Its 15 minutes of fame are up. Sorry but weve gotta move on to other more newsworthy panics like nuking Iran.
Theres gonna be a "Whatever Happened To" show on C-Span where they will feature all the great panics of recent years, like Y2K, and Hanta Virus, West Nile, and, of course the Bird Flu.
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Badboy
 
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Reply Thu 27 Apr, 2006 07:20 am
I had no sooner said`what has happened to...,than bird flu(H7) appears in Norfolk,plus thay are modelling how a pandemic will spread throughout Britain(reckon it would last 16 weeks)
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Chai
 
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Reply Thu 27 Apr, 2006 07:27 am
farmerman wrote:
Its 15 minutes of fame are up. Sorry but weve gotta move on to other more newsworthy panics like nuking Iran.
Theres gonna be a "Whatever Happened To" show on C-Span where they will feature all the great panics of recent years, like Y2K, and Hanta Virus, West Nile, and, of course the Bird Flu.


Chandra Levy and Gary Condit....the last time I heard about them on a non stop basis was on 9/10/01.




but....idiocy like american idol linger on and on.....even the bird flu can't seem to kill crap like that.
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blacksmithn
 
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Reply Thu 27 Apr, 2006 07:34 am
We all died from the ensuing pandemic. Didn't you get the memo?
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hamburger
 
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Reply Sun 14 May, 2006 07:20 pm
bird flu
seems to me we are just getting a little complacent about the avian flu .
perhaps a little like aids/hiv , if it's not a personal/family problem we feel it doesn't exist or won't ever hit us .
hbg

here is a report from "reuters news" that was just issued :

TORONTO (Reuters) - Canada is stepping up efforts to prepare for a potential bird flu pandemic, health officials said on Saturday, as a new outbreak of the deadly H5N1 avian influenza virus in poultry was discovered in Romania.

Canada's plans include boosting its stockpile of antiviral drugs to 55 million doses from 16 million doses by about mid-2007 and sharing of resources and supplies among provinces in a public health emergency.

"Our strategy when it comes to antivirals is, whoever needs it gets it and there will be enough for every single Canadian who needs treatment," Canadian Health Minister Tony Clement said after a conference with health ministers from the provinces and territories.

"Today we took concrete steps forward in our efforts to protect Canadians in the event of a pandemic or an outbreak of avian influenza," he said in a statement.

The H5N1 avian influenza has spread to more than 40 countries in Asia, Europe and Africa, killing over 100 people, and raising concerns tens of millions of people could sicken and die if it mutates to pass easily from person to person.

Since a 2003 outbreak of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome, or SARS, which infected hundreds and killed 44 in Toronto, Canada's federal, provincial and territorial governments have been working together to on the country's capacity to respond to health threats.
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Wolf ODonnell
 
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Reply Tue 16 May, 2006 04:59 am
Well, let's put it another way.

Can you think up of any pandemic that has never taken us by surprise? All the pandemics have always taken us by surprise. Those that we we knew were coming never really became huge pandemics.

Just because it hasn't jumped to humans, doesn't mean it hasn't.

However, because it hasn't really, the media have gotten bored of it. The most recent New Scientist issue, however, has suggested that even if H5N1 doesn't go human, it will affect huge swathes of wildlife, potentially wiping out endangered species.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 16 May, 2006 05:49 am
Here on the Delmarva peninsula (Its the little dingus of the US that includes the "12 mile radius of Pa, all of Delaware, the Eastern Shore of Maryland, and a teeny bit of Tidewater virginia). Here we go through avian flu scares every few years. We have a huge poultry industry and the periodic wiping out of whole herds of chickens , duck, and turkeys is almost a non-news item. So when the H5N1 scare came, we were especially concerned and people with small flocks were monitoring their contracts 3 and 4 years out so they didnt get wiped out financially.
It has settled back into a "background noise" since weve got a new strain thats apparently emerged all by itself
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hamburger
 
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Reply Mon 22 May, 2006 08:44 pm
a/t the news (bloomberg) health authorities are becoming more concerned about possible animal to human transmission .
apparently there has been an increase in the number of cases of avian flu in humans .
scientists trying to determine how the flu was spread to the latest victims .
hbg

...AVIAN FLU...
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husker
 
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Reply Mon 22 May, 2006 08:47 pm
a large sized flyer came out yesterday in the Sunday paper - about being prepared
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Badboy
 
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Reply Wed 24 May, 2006 07:02 am
There have been other cases in Indonesia where source of infection was unknown.
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Jack Webb
 
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Reply Fri 9 Jun, 2006 12:20 am
It went the way of global warming.
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Fri 23 Jun, 2006 06:58 pm
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/23/world/asia/22cnd-flu.html?ex=1151208000&en=85f5f8c2ce002514&ei=5087%0A

Now this is something new....

Bird Flu Passed From Son to Father, W.H.O. Says
By ELISABETH ROSENTHAL
Published: June 23, 2006
An Indonesian man who died of H5N1 bird flu caught it from his 10-year-old son, the first laboratory-confirmed case of human-to-human transmission of the disease, according to a World Health Organization investigation of an unusual family cluster of bird-flu cases.

The investigators also found that the virus mutated slightly when the son had the disease, although not in any way that would allow it to pass more readily among people. Flu viruses like H5N1 mutate constantly, although most of the mutations are insignificant biologically; that appears to be have been the case in the Indonesian cluster.

"Yes, it is slightly altered, but in a way that viruses commonly mutate," said Dick Thompson, a spokesman for the World Health Organization n Geneva, describing the findings, which were not publicly released. "But that didn't make it more transmissible, or cause more severe disease."

The greater importance of the slightly modified virus is that it allowed researchers from the organization and the United States Centers for Disease Control to document for the first time that the virus almost certainly passed from the son directly to his father.

In previous cases where human-to-human transmission was suspected, scientists were not able to say for sure, either because test samples from the patients were not available or because the virus in the patients was the same as that found in poultry in the area.

Scientists say the H5N1 virus, which has killed hundreds of millions of birds worldwide, does not spread easily to humans or among them. But they have worried that it might, through normal biological processes, acquire the ability to do so, potentially setting off a devastating human pandemic.

More than 200 people have contracted bird flu around the world, almost all of them after very close contact with infected birds.

International health officials have been in Indonesia for much of the past month, investigating a family outbreak that affected seven relatives in a remote region of Sumatra. Six of the seven died.

Although Indonesia has been struggling all year to control a series of bird flu outbreaks in poultry, the family on Sumatra had no known direct contact with sick birds, although the first death in the family was a woman who sold vegetables in a market that also sold birds.

Scientists have suspected that H5N1, though an avian virus, could also spread from person to person in rare cases if there were prolonged close contact.

The family members in the cluster had a banquet in late April, when the vegetable merchant was already ill and coughing heavily. Some spent the night in the same small room with her. Some members also cared for their relatives when they were sick.

In hospitals, doctors and nurses generally wear masks when treating people who may have bird flu.

The first five family members to fall ill had identical strains of H5N1, one that is common in animals in Indonesia. But the virus mutated slightly in the sixth victim, the 10-year-old boy, and he apparently passed the mutated virus to his father. The presence of that mutation allowed the lab to confirm the route of transmission.

Still, Mr. Thompson said there was no evidence that the mutated virus is any better adapted to human infection than before. In fact, the World Health Organization has been following 54 neighbors and family members who lived near the family for a month, and none has contracted the virus.

The International Herald Tribune
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hamburger
 
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Reply Sat 24 Jun, 2006 08:03 am
the 'ontario ministry of health' has started to distribute pamphlets outlining some information on the avian flu .
Dr. Low who is Head of the Department of Microbiology at the Toronto Medical Laboratories and Mount Sinai Hospital, a diagnostic laboratory (and who was in the forefront of fighting the SARS outbreak) , admitted to a CBC interviewer that he has stocked up on 'tamiflu' for his own and family use . he said that he expects to be closely involved when the avian flu hits , and thinks it is prudent to be prepared .
richard branson (virgin airlines) stated in an interview that the company has purchased 'tamiflu' to protect his flying personnel in case of en outbreak .
however , the general ppoopulation is told NOT to stock up on tamiflu to avoid a shortage of the medication ! Twisted Evil
hbg
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 24 Jun, 2006 09:04 am
THIS IS IT!!. Its the end of the world as we know it. Stock up on bread and toilet paper, it gonna be like the WAR OF THE WORLDS out there. People looting, crowds gone amuck... or amok...(Look this aint a friggin dictionary, ) Break downs in basix services, shortages of food...
Youll need plenty of flashlights and duck tape, and your gonna need plenny of ammo.
FOR GODS SAKE DONT PANIC!!
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Ellinas
 
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Reply Sat 24 Jun, 2006 11:39 am
Too much worry for not something too serious. The media overrated the whole situation.

The H5N1 virus can't survive hot climates, that is why the media are not talking about it now, as the summer came to Europe.
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hamburger
 
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Reply Sat 24 Jun, 2006 06:28 pm
"...The H5N1 virus can't survive hot climates..."
it seems that the virus is not doing badly in indonesia and vietnam , both are fairly hot countries .
the medical profession certainly doesn't think anything like the 1918-1919 spanish flu would be easy to contain considering today's air-traffic .
another problem is that the virus is usually not immediately recognizable ; infected persons may pass on the virus without being sick themselves for several days .
i can tell you when SARS hit toronto 2003 , the medical profession was caught completely off-guard and there were several false starts before the virus was isolated - it had been brought in by a single person that had travelled overseas .
even after the virus was known there were problems . the hospitals sounded the 'all clear ' only to find out several days later that more people were coming down with the disease - it was not a pretty picture .
the SARS outbreak - even though relatively few people died ; i think less than 100 - cost the canadian economy millions of dollars ; several international conferences that had been scheduled to take place in toronto were cancelled , restaurant patrons were staying home , overseas visitors cancelled their canadian vacations ...
hbg
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jul, 2006 08:40 pm
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hamburger
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 01:02 pm
...and our local hospital has just released a report , stating that their occupancy rate is 97-98 % - without any flu problems .
they've gone into emergency mode , and 'non-life-threatening' cases are diverted to other hospitals .
our hospital is a university teaching hospital and the nearest hospital able to provide equivalent care is a good 100 miles (160 klicks ) away .
better not get the avian flu .
hbg
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 06:51 pm
You'll have to make the choice of putting either the surgical patients or the flu patients out on the parking lot in tents.


Joe(In Ontario, in December)Nation
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