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Thu 20 Apr, 2006 02:58 pm
Imagine a society where all is organized and runs smoothly. The leaders are completely in charge and have arranged that the people working for them are taken care of.
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The people promise to obey all orders and work hard and cheerfully for the leaders. In return they get shelter, food, transportation and even clothing, as long as they follow orders.
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That may not be everyone's cup of tea, but almost all who lived it seem to like it. Many who spent long years in that society have fond memories of it.
What society was that, detano?
It still exists in many countries.
No no, it is perfectly normal and legal.
Bet they weren't all happy. It's not in human nature not to strive - and to want something better for your kids.
Its not human nature to follow orders...someone always has the bright idea of a hostile take over.
Yeah, someone always think they can give better orders, or the same orders better...
My idea of a perfect society would be one where there were no homeless, no abandoned children, or drug induced parents, not having to work two jobs to barely make ends meet, and gas not $2.77 a gallon. Where the rich aren't getting richer at the cost of the poor, where our tax dollars go to enrich our lives, instead of destroying a country. Where we believed equality meant just that~equality.
detano inipo wrote:It still exists in many countries.
Please name those countries, and what groups are living that way in these countries.
d i, my revised guess is army.
Even there it gets political near the top.
And it ain't no bundle of roses at the bottom.
you may be right about the US army, lot of civilians calling the shots now.
I was actually talking about the Australian Army, the only one I've ever come in contact with - Ok there was one American general who said 'Brocolli' really weirdly - like it was the plural of brocullus - oh wait all American say it like that....
When I said political I meant jockeying for promotion etc.
Don't see nothing utopian about bastardisation.
PS has anyone else mentioned that Detano's handle is 'opinionated' backwards? That's pretty cool.
Actually I was describing army life, any army in any country. To me it sounds like bare bones socialism.
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It is strange that most US army types vote Republican while living in socialist conditions.
well, the Republican party tries to project a pro-military image, so their PR must be succeeding.
detano inipo wrote:It is strange that most US army types vote Republican while living in socialist conditions.
Well it's a weird sort of case - the army has more inputs than outputs - not really a model for an entire society (for any length of time).
Using the same idea you could say utopia was where you had heaps of money and fame and took no responsibility for your actions - but who wants to be Paris Hilton....
We say it "brock'-lee". How do you say it?
The American general I'm referring to, true story, said 'Brock-o-LIE', ozzians generally say brockolee emphasis on first syllable, very short second syllable.