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Montana
 
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Reply Fri 7 Apr, 2006 02:38 pm
Ok Chumly, you got my attention, so what kinds of cars (non-diesel) would you recommend?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 7 Apr, 2006 02:39 pm
Why do you exclude the Diesels by Honda and Toyota, Chumly?
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Chumly
 
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Reply Fri 7 Apr, 2006 02:41 pm
To the best of my knowledge there are no small car diesels by Honda and Toyota in Canada Sad
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Montana
 
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Reply Fri 7 Apr, 2006 02:41 pm
Yeah, I wanna know everything! :-D
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 7 Apr, 2006 02:43 pm
Well, they produce quite a big range (the Honda 2.2i-CTDi is really nicely running!).

I only thaught, because you're against the Peugeot, which isn't sold in America neither ....
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Chumly
 
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Reply Fri 7 Apr, 2006 02:47 pm
Montana wrote:
Yeah, I wanna know everything! :-D
Oh boy you don't ask much do you? Well just to let you know I am not in sales and don't sell cars. But without be nosy I would need to know your budget and needs. There are some really versatile smaller minivan/station wagon type beasts that can do a lot.
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Montana
 
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Reply Fri 7 Apr, 2006 02:51 pm
I had never heard of the Peugeot until now, so I assumed they weren't sold in the states either.

I have had my eye on the Toyota Camry for months now. I've looked through all the local dealerships on line and since the looks of the car isn't as important as all the other stuff, I'd be more flexible in that area.
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Chumly
 
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Reply Fri 7 Apr, 2006 02:55 pm
The Toyota Camry is so good as to be almost ridiculous. It wins every award in it's class year after year and is the most popular sedan in North America.
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Montana
 
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Reply Fri 7 Apr, 2006 02:56 pm
Chumly Laughing

I'll pass on the beast, but what I do want is a mid size car that is sporty looking.

4 door
Automatic transmission
4 cylinder
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Montana
 
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Reply Fri 7 Apr, 2006 02:57 pm
Chumly wrote:
The Toyota Camry is so good as to be almost ridiculous. It wins every award in it's class year after year and is the most popular sedan in North America.


This is very good news to me because I really really really love that freaking car! Laughing Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 7 Apr, 2006 02:57 pm
But is one of the most boring looking cars in this century.
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Montana
 
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Reply Fri 7 Apr, 2006 02:59 pm
Walter
Do you mean the Camery?
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Chumly
 
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Reply Fri 7 Apr, 2006 03:03 pm
I agree, too bad, but it is correctly styled for wide market appeal, and the 2006 is trying to look zippier. I have a 04 Mazda Miata and an 04 Honda VFR abs so I have lots of zip!
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Montana
 
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Reply Fri 7 Apr, 2006 03:03 pm
This is the Camry


http://www.toyota.ca/NWS/media/camry/models/i_mod_2.jpg
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 7 Apr, 2006 03:03 pm
Montana wrote:
Walter
Do you mean the Camery?


Yes.
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Montana
 
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Reply Fri 7 Apr, 2006 03:08 pm
Personally, I think all the cars available here are boring. At least the ones $30,000 and under. <sigh>
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Montana
 
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Reply Fri 7 Apr, 2006 03:09 pm
I think the Camry is kina nice, though.
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Chumly
 
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Reply Fri 7 Apr, 2006 03:09 pm
Get a motorcycle like me, be brave...........
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BillyFalcon
 
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Reply Fri 7 Apr, 2006 09:31 pm
Toyota Camry ranked number one?????
Chumly, Consumer Reports ranked the VW Passat the best familly sedan for 3 or 4 years in a row including this year.
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Chumly
 
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Reply Fri 7 Apr, 2006 11:15 pm
I'd suggest it's pretty much a tie, but the long term service, repair, reliability record would go to Toyota vehicles over VW vehicles hence my bias! In Canada at least there are lots more Toyotas than VWs and that also biases me as I like vehicles with a large user base; easy parts accessibility. But hey very good point and maybe the Passat would suite her better! I think this is the 02 - 03 report, not quite sure
Consumer Reports wrote:
Volkswagen Passat Edges out new Toyota Camry in Consumer Reports' Tests of 4-Cylinder Family Sedans Redesigned Nissan Altima posts strong showing in CR's side-by-side testing

In unusually close competition, the Volkswagen Passat squeaked past the newly redesigned Toyota Camry to retain its title as Consumer Reports'® top pick for 4-cylinder family sedans. The Passat has been a CR top pick for family sedans since 1999; the Camry held the same title between 1992 and 1998.

The Passat and Camry posted virtually identical overall test scores in performance tests on four midpriced, four-cylinder family sedans conducted at Consumer Reports' Auto Test Facility in East Haddam, Connecticut by the magazine's auto engineers.

"The Passat and Camry are both excellent choices for consumers looking for a midpriced family sedan. They differ more in character than performance," said David Champion, the director of Consumer Reports' Auto Test facility. "The Passat offers the driving experience of a well-balanced sports sedan while the camry emphasizes comfort and quietness."

A Honda Accord and Nissan Altima rounded out the test group for the January issue of Consumer Reports. All four vehicles posted "very good" overall scores and are Consumer Reports' "recommended" buys because they performed well in testing and are expected to have at least average reliability. The cost of the tested vehicles ranged from a low $22,154 for the Altima 2.5S to a high of $25,380 for a Passat GLS 1.8T.

Auto test engineers said the redesigned Altima has been transformed from a run-of-the-mill family sedan into a major competitor in that category. The Altima posted a "very good" overall score, and was ranked fourth in this group after the Accord.

Full tests and ratings of the vehicles appear in the January issue of Consumer Reports, which is available wherever magazines are sold, on December 18. (the February issue will feature test and ratings of four six-cylinder family cars. CR will detail how a V6-equipped Camry and Altima compete against competitors from Dodge and Pontiac.)

Mildly restyled last spring, the Volkswagen Passat is a well-rounded vehicle with top-quality fit and finish. The Passat GLS 1.8T ($25,380 as tested) costs more than other cars tested in this group but offers advanced standard safety gear. Ride and handling on the Passat are very good overall, with competent cornering and well-weighted steering. Its interior is comfortable and spacious, and the seats are excellent. The 170-hp, 1.8-liter turbocharged four-cylinder engine delivers lively performance but requires premium fuel. Braking was very good overall. The Passat has had above-average reliability.

The Camry, which received a major redesign for 2002, is roomy and comfortable. The Camry LE ($22,539 as tested) is easy to get into and out of, has an excellent control layout, and serves up a quiet and composed driving experience. It handles well, though not as crisply as the Passat. The Camry's 157-hp, 2.4-liter four-cylinder is smooth and responsive with good acceleration and fuel economy. Braking was very good, but not as good as that of the precious-generation Camry. Based on previous models, reliability should be above average.

The Honda Accord continues to be one of the top-selling family sedans despite its four-year-old design. The Accord EX ($22,740 as tested) has competent handling, impressive fit and finish, and a well laid-out interior. But its ride was not on par with the other sedans tested. The Accord's 148-hp, 2.3-liter four-cylinder revs smoothly but was the slowest of the group. Braking performance was excellent in all of CR's test. The Accord's reliability has been outstanding.
The Altima, which made its debut in 1993 and was totally redesigned for 2002, now ranks among the top-performing family sedans. The Altima 2.5S ($22,154 as tested) has secure handling, a roomy interior, an extensive list of standard features, and a competitive price. Its 175-hp, 2.5-liter four-cylinder engine runs smoothly and responsively. Braking was very good overall. Based on previous Altimas, CR experts to see better-than-average reliability in the new model.

To subscribe to Consumer Reports, call 1-800-234-1645. Information and articles from Consumer Reports can be accessed online at www.ConsumerReports.org.

http://www.hispanianews.com/archive/2002/01/25/05.htm
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