What should be done about illegal immigration?

ebrown_p wrote:

Foxfyre,

You seem to think that you represent the will of the American public. I didn't see your response to the polling data that suggests otherwise.

And you have ignored polling data I have provided that strongly suggests that I am with the majority.

(CNN) -- More than three-quarters of Americans favor allowing illegal immigrants who have spent many years in the United States to apply for citizenship, according to a poll conducted for CNN by Opinion Research Corp.

ebrown_p wrote:

Foxfyre,

You seem to think that you represent the will of the American public. I didn't see your response to the polling data that suggests otherwise.

And you have ignored polling data I have provided that strongly suggests that I am with the majority.

Foxfyre wrote:

I do expect it to comply with the will of the majority within the scope of the Constitution.

(This has nothing to do with this thread, and is especially not pointed at you, Foxfyre, at all!)

I'm just thinking that some conservatives told me on another thread some time ago (about the French demonstrations) that such was a sign of a weak democracy/parliament when lawmakers did so.

I did equate it with the problems you have when you have a large block of people unassimilated into and/or even hostile to your culture and way of life.

I did equate it with the problems you have when you have a large block of people unassimilated into and/or even hostile to your culture and way of life. We can sort of draw a parallel there to our situation here even though the two situations are very different.

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I did equate it with the problems you have when you have a large block of people unassimilated into and/or even hostile to your culture and way of life. We can sort of draw a parallel there to our situation here even though the two situations are very different.

Did you notice the difference between the protests here (peaceful and dignified) and the protests in France (burning cars)? Unless you think speaking spanish is "hostile" to our culture and way of life.

Now I know you are full of it.

Foxfyre wrote:

I did equate it with the problems you have when you have a large block of people unassimilated into and/or even hostile to your culture and way of life.

You, of course, must be referring to Miami Cuban "exiles" or perhaps, French Canadians. I do not know who else you could possibly be referring to.

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I did equate it with the problems you have when you have a large block of people unassimilated into and/or even hostile to your culture and way of life. We can sort of draw a parallel there to our situation here even though the two situations are very different.

Did you notice the difference between the protests here (peaceful and dignified) and the protests in France (burning cars)? Unless you think speaking spanish is "hostile" to our culture and way of life.

Now I know you are full of it.

Roxxxanne wrote:

Foxfyre wrote:

I did equate it with the problems you have when you have a large block of people unassimilated into and/or even hostile to your culture and way of life.

You, of course, must be referring to Miami Cuban "exiles" or perhaps, French Canadians. I do not know who else you could possibly be referring to.

You might equate it with the French demonstrations that I referenced. Bright people know to do that.

I admit I am not very smart.

I certainly don't understand why if Foxfyre is correct about the views of most Americans, why the legislation she supports (i.e. HR4437 or Kyl-Cornyn) is having such a difficult time.

That the legislation now being contemplated in congress is only as effective as the enforcement thereof. They haven't shown much evidence they are up to the challenge.

Poll: US-Mexico border opinions differ

WASHINGTON, June 12 (UPI) -- Nearly three out of five Mexicans believe there should be no border control for Mexican nationals crossing into the United States, while two-thirds of U.S. citizens do not believe illegal aliens in the country should be granted amnesty, a poll released Tuesday stated.

The poll was commissioned by Americans for Immigration Control Inc., which issued a statement saying the poll results show there is little support among Americans for a relaxation of border crossing policies between the United States and Mexico.

The poll was conducted by Zogby International. The group, over the period May 25-26, asked a series of questions of 801 Mexicans. A total of 1,015 U.S. citizens were questioned between May 28-30. The data have a margin of error of 3.5 percent.

Asked if they believed the U.S. Southwest rightfully belonged to Mexico, 58 percent of respondents in Mexico said it did, while 28 percent disagreed. A similar number -- 57 percent -- stated agreement with the position that Mexicans have the right to enter the United States without U.S. permission. A total of 35 percent disagreed.

A different set of questions was asked of the U.S. respondents. A total of 58 percent of those questioned said the United States should admit fewer immigrants each year while 30 percent said the U.S. immigration levels should be kept the same.

Sixty-five percent of those asked disagreed with the comment that foreigners illegally in the United States should be given amnesty and allowed to legally stay in the country, while 26 percent agree.

And 68 percent of Americans questioned believed that the U.S. military should be used as a temporary measure to help the U.S. Border Patrol control illegal immigration. Some 28 percent disagreed.

McGentrix wrote:

Poll: US-Mexico border opinions differ

This closely parallels the results of the recent Rasmussen poll too. And Rasumussen was not commissioned by anybody but themselves.

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