Some Common, Bad Arguments for the Recent U.S. Policy Towar

McGentrix wrote:

cicerone imposter wrote:

McG, If you have better information than Colin Powell about Iraq's WMDs, please provide "your" evidence.


Powell casts doubt on Iraq WMDs

US Secretary of State Colin Powell has conceded that Iraq may not have possessed any stocks of weapons of mass destruction before the war last year.

His comments came after the former head of the US weapons inspection team, David Kay, said he did not believe there were any weapons stockpiles.

Mr Powell was speaking on his way to the former Soviet republic of Georgia.

Less than a year ago, Mr Powell warned the United Nations Security Council about the danger from Iraq's weapons.

Snood, are you going to ask Cice for his source? Or, do your liberal buddies get free passes?

Hardly conclusive. Maybe they did....maybe they did not.

But where oh where did they go?

cicerone imposter wrote:

I wonder what else people with imagination think about besides imaginary WMDs and programs that nobody found.

The fact that nobody found them is irrelevant. If you toss a coin and it comes up heads, it does not mean that there wasn't a real probability of tails before the toss. The fact that no weapons were found doesn't mean that before the invasion there was an insignificant chance that they were there. You are using the result of the coin toss to incorrectly make a judgement about the probabilities before the toss.

joefromchicago wrote:

McGentrix wrote:

I have my own theories on why we had to invade when we did. Bush had his own reasons he invaded Iraq. He presented them to congress and they agreed. The past is past.

When exactly did you invade Iraq?

Give it a rest.

McGentrix wrote:

joefromchicago wrote:

McGentrix wrote:

I have my own theories on why we had to invade when we did. Bush had his own reasons he invaded Iraq. He presented them to congress and they agreed. The past is past.

When exactly did you invade Iraq?

Give it a rest.

Quite right, McG, that's far preferable to actually answering my questions.

The idea of shutting down a development program is hard to comprehend? The potential threat of Saddam Hussein armed with nukes and bioweapons in a few years was a terrible threat indeed, and only a fool would have taken it lightly.

If you can show me that there was convincing proof pre-invasion that the programs had been terminated and not simply taken farther underground, I might admit that you're right.

joefromchicago wrote:

McGentrix wrote:

joefromchicago wrote:

McGentrix wrote:

I have my own theories on why we had to invade when we did. Bush had his own reasons he invaded Iraq. He presented them to congress and they agreed. The past is past.

When exactly did you invade Iraq?

Give it a rest.

Quite right, McG, that's far preferable to actually answering my questions.

That wasn't a question, it was a juvenile remark on your part.

McGentrix wrote:

joefromchicago wrote:

McGentrix wrote:

joefromchicago wrote:

McGentrix wrote:

I have my own theories on why we had to invade when we did. Bush had his own reasons he invaded Iraq. He presented them to congress and they agreed. The past is past.

When exactly did you invade Iraq?

Give it a rest.

Quite right, McG, that's far preferable to actually answering my questions.

That wasn't a question, it was a juvenile remark on your part.

No, it was a fair question. You noted that you had reasons for the invasion that may have differed from the Bush administration's reasons. I'm sorry if I may have given you the impression that I gave a rat's ass about your reasons, but let me take this opportunity to correct that mistaken impression: I am completely uninterested in your reasons for invading Iraq unless you actually invaded Iraq. Your reasons for invading didn't get the US involved in a war or lead to the deaths of thousands of Americans and Iraqis. Furthermore, you can also rest assured that I have no interest in your reasons for the 2001 tax cuts, the administration's position on social security reform, the outing of Valerie Plame, or the prescription drug health benefit plan. When you start making policy, then I'll start to care.

The memo also shows that the president and the prime minister acknowledged that no unconventional weapons had been found inside Iraq. Faced with the possibility of not finding any before the planned invasion, Mr. Bush talked about several ways to provoke a confrontation, including a proposal to paint a United States surveillance plane in the colors of the United Nations in hopes of drawing fire, or assassinating Mr. Hussein.

No, I stated I had my own theories as to why the US rushed to invade when we did, not my own reasons.