Obama '08?

@Finn dAbuzz,

All blather with no evidence or proof; just like okie's claims. Junk.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

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Whether he wants to or not, Obama is systematically degrading the country.

No, he isn't. In any fashion whatsoever.

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I can sympathize with his unwillingness to admit he's wrong about anything.

He has admitted that he was wrong about stuff. I don't know where you get this from.

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Obviously it wasn't and Obama wasn't going to allow anything to prevent him from being THE Democrat that got it through.

This had a lot more to do with Nancy Pelosi than it did Obama. I submit that you know very, very little about what actually led to the passage of the health care bill. It certainly wasn't the WH leading the way at that point.

Overall, this is hyperbolic and ignorant speech coming from you.

Cycloptichorn

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@Cycloptichorn,

As a matter of fact, the republicans came up with the idea of universal health care. When it came to vote for it, they all said "no."

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@Cycloptichorn,

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Overall, this is hyperbolic and ignorant speech coming from you

No doubt Finn is shaking now that you have hurled a garden variety insult at him. The word "ignorant" is so over used at a2k that it has lost almost all meaning...ignorant now means nothing more than not approved of. Any statement that Cyclo and some others dont agree with is an "ignorant" statement by definition. This word has followed "bigot" into the trash heap, a perfectly good word distroyed for no reason other than we have a click of pricks at a2k who are addicted to insults..

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@hawkeye10,

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The word "ignorant" is so over used at a2k that it has lost almost all meaning.

You mean, you've been called ignorant so many times, you're inured to it. That doesn't mean that it has no meaning.

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ignorant now means nothing more than not approved of.

Untrue. People present ideas and thoughts all the time that I don't approve of, yet are not labeled ignorant by me or anyone else. That's because they are not in fact ignorant. What IS ignorant are statements and assertions which do not match the facts of a situation.

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This word has followed "bigot" into the trash heap, a perfectly good word distroyed for no good reason than we have a click of pricks at a2k who are addicted to insults..

Starting to feel it, eh, Hawk? Starting to get to you, that someone is consistently calling you out on your bullshit. You immediately launch into the 'victim' routine once again.

Cycloptichorn

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@Cycloptichorn,

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Starting to feel it, eh, Hawk? Starting to get to you, that someone is consistently calling you out on your bullshit. You immediately launch into the 'victim' routine once again.

Your mind is so warped that you have me calling you out for lack of civility as me being the victim...you are so addicted to insults that your mind is gone, everything gets twisted into a reason to hurl an insult.. I have no doubt that you will still try to pawn yourself off as the rational reasonable one, but I know better.

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@hawkeye10,

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No doubt Finn is shaking now that you have hurled a garden variety insult at him. The word "ignorant" is so over used at a2k that it has lost almost all meaning...ignorant now means nothing more than not approved of. Any statement that Cyclo and some others dont agree with is an "ignorant" statement by definition. This word has followed "bigot" into the trash hea

One thing that you are really ignorant about is language. You're simply repeating an old canard, Hawkeye.

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click of pricks

Perhaps you meant clique.

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@dyslexia,

I consider it an honor when my posts are voted down because okie and ican do it. Their votes mean that I have succeeded.

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@parados,

You must be one mental midget, parados. Even Marxists think communism is good for their countries. Most of them have good intentions I believe, and they are not intentionally proposing policies that are bad for their countries. Parados, I have about concluded that you guys on the left are just too dense to figure out some basic common sense reasoning. I can find no other reason for the illogical things you post here. Or you are purposely demonizing conservatives in an effort to run us off of these threads, I don't know for sure which it is.

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@dyslexia,

Are you trying to be placed on my ignore list again. Seriously dys, do you have one shred of decency in your sick mind?

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@okie,

Yea, dys, you wanna get on okie's ignore list? That'll be the end of your world - as you know it.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

What an idiotic attack.

People who were absolutely certain that Bush was malignant are calling Okie on believing Obama is.

Whether he wants to or not, Obama is systematically degrading the country.

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Finn, I think from reading your post, you get it, and you totally understand the logic of what I have said, that Obama is probably not trying intentionally to destroy the country, and I have never said that I thought he was. I think the man is seriously misguided and that his policies are detrimental to the country. Even some of the most pathetic figures in history as Stalin, Pol Pot, Hitler, Castro, and others, they actually were so arrogant as to believe their government policies would lead to a more prosperous and fair society. I don't think even they intended to destroy their countries intentionally.

It is disappointing and frankly disheartening to have to realize some of the posters here are that dishonest or that biased as to intentionally twist what others say here. There seems to be little effort to carry on an intelligent discourse about political figures and policies. I have almost concluded that mindless and dishonest ridicule is part of the liberal leftist idealogues' playbook. In fact, it is in the Alinsky Rules for Radicals as a recommended tactic to use against the opposition, and perhaps that is what leftists do on debate forums, maybe they consider it part of their duty to be a good little leftist among their fellow travelers heading toward their promised land of leftist utopia. That is only a guess, Finn, I really haven't yet figured out how the leftist mind operates in such a world of unreality and lack of logic.

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@okie,

But let's go back to this post by you okie...

okie wrote:

parados wrote:

That's rich coming from you okie.
In case you failed to notice the conservatives lost the political debate last election. It is you that is demagoging like crazy.
Saying Obama should be impeached without any evidence.
Saying Obama hates the country without any evidence.
Saying Obama hates the Constitution without any evidence.

I have provided more evidence that YOU hate the Constitution than you have that Obama does okie.

Again, all lies about what I am saying or have said. I will say to you what I have challenged pom with, provide one iota of evidence that I have said anything like what you claim in the above, or provide an apology if you have a shred of decency and honesty, parados. There is the challenge. What are you going to do with it? Do you have any honesty or decency?

Now let's look at this post by you okie..

http://able2know.org/topic/71145-1371#post-3715816

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IMPEACH OBAMA.

So let's start small okie.

Apologize for saying I lied about you calling for impeaching Obama. And then you can apologize for your lie when claiming you never did it.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

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People who were absolutely certain that Bush was malignant are calling Okie on believing Obama is.

Actually, I am calling okie out on things he denied he said.

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@okie,

You still haven't told us what the strong emotion is that Obama has for the US since he doesn't "love" it.

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Even Marxists think communism is good for their countries.

Is that you arguing that Obama loves his country? Or is it you trying to pretend you haven't said the things you clearly have?

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@okie,

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... Castro, and others, they actually were so arrogant as to believe their government policies would lead to a more prosperous and fair society. I don't think even they intended to destroy their countries intentionally.

Castro took his country from a position of extreme poverty and the inhumane treatment from a brutal US backed dictator [ho-hum, same ole same ole]

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The corruption of the Government, the brutality of the police, the regime's indifference to the needs of the people for education, medical care, housing, for social justice and economic justice ... is an open invitation to revolution. ”

— Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr., when asked by the U.S. government to analyze Batista's Cuba

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulgencio_Batista

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Brothels flourished. A major industry grew up around them; government officials received bribes, policemen collected protection money. Prostitutes could be seen standing in doorways, strolling the streets, or leaning from windows. One report estimated that 11,500 of them worked their trade in Havana. Beyond the outskirts of the capital, beyond the slot machines, was one of the poorest, and most beautiful countries in the Western world.”

— David Detzer, American journalist, after visiting Havana in the 1950s

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to a position where Cubans have some of the best medical care on the planet, where people are treated decently, where kids get an education, in short, to a place that has it all over those years where the greedy ole USA was in there stealing the resources from yet another Latin American country.

If the US hadn't engaged in a brutal half century of terrorism against Cuba, it would be a much more prosperous country than it is now.

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@JTT,

valid points but you omitted the negatives imposed by Castro.

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Newspeak

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@dyslexia,

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valid points but you omitted the negatives imposed by Castro.

We'll never know for sure, Dys, but those negatives may well have been necessary to prevent the US from regaining its hold on Cuba. There are way way way more negatives going on in other countries that the US supports. There's little to no discussion of these.

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I never thought I would see the day in America when people who consider themselves smart are praising the likes of Fidel Castro. this forum has gotten so bizarre as to be nothing short of amazing, and extremely disappointing as well to see fellow Americans express such anti-American and anti-liberty views.

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