cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Thu 9 Sep, 2010 12:24 pm
@okie,
okie, Oh, please, please, do that! I'm looking forward to seeing a compilation of all my posts.

BTW. when I describe somebody as dumb, it usually has a reason why I use those adjectives. It's up to you to show me why my opinion is a lie or unfounded.
okie
 
  0  
Thu 9 Sep, 2010 12:25 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Not interested in repeating insults, ci. I don't see how even you should enjoy it either.
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Thu 9 Sep, 2010 12:27 pm
@okie,
okie, That's what is called a cop-out. The reasons are abundantly clear; you can't prove my posts to be lies or unfounded.
okie
 
  0  
Thu 9 Sep, 2010 12:41 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Would you like to reread all of your dozens of insults like this one ci? :
"Your brain is fried, and no amount of facts and reason will ever change your mind."
You can't be proud of posting that kind of stuff, not only at me but at folks like ican as well? Maybe you actually believed your insults I don't know, but they are obviously unfounded in most cases, ci.
talk72000
 
  2  
Thu 9 Sep, 2010 12:42 pm
@okie,
You have played too many football games without your helmet, okie! Rolling Eyes Twisted Evil Drunk
okie
 
  0  
Thu 9 Sep, 2010 12:48 pm
@talk72000,
My school could not afford football, talk. I did play baseball and basketball, and I can vouch for the fact it was a great time. I went to a small school, only about 75 or so in high school. Our baseball field was rough with stickers and clumps of grass, so you had to really be alert to the possibility of a bad hop on the ball hit at you. We had just as much fun, and probably more fun than the kids now that have tons of money supporting fabulous ball fields, gymnasiums, etc.
JTT
 
  0  
Thu 9 Sep, 2010 12:55 pm
@okie,
American Taliban: How War, Sex, Sin, and Power Bind Jihadists and the Radical Right

Markos Moulitsas

Product Description
“We all agree with the Taliban.”—Rush Limbaugh, October 9, 2009

America’s primary international enemy—Islamic radicalism—insists on government by theocracy, curtails civil liberties, embraces torture, represses women, wants to eradicate homosexuals from society, and insists on the use of force over diplomacy. Remind you of a certain American political party? In American Taliban, Markos Moulitsas pulls no punches as he compares how the Republican Party and Islamic radicals maintain similar worldviews and tactics. Moutlitsas also challenges the media, fellow progressives, and our elected officials to call the radical right on their jihadist tactics more forcefully for the good of our nation and safety of all citizens.


Editorial Reviews
Review
“It isn’t possible to understand American politics now without understanding the worldview and arguments of Markos Moulitsas. If you still believe the beltway caricature of the squishy, compromising, conciliatory American left, American Taliban should disabuse you of that notion.”
—Rachel Maddow, The Rachel Maddow Show

“Moulitsas alerts us to a clear and present danger in America: radical zealots who disregard our Constitution and our freedoms and who disguise themselves as patriots.”
—Roger Ebert, film critic

“I can’t remember a time in my life when anti-intellectualism and intolerance—from America’s prejudice against evolutionary science to its reactionary condemnation of a scholarly African American president—has been more pervasive. The time has never been more ripe for a book such as this. American Taliban reminds us that fanaticism isn’t always an import.”
—Brett Gurewitz, Bad Religion

“A thorough compendium of right-wing hypocrisy and selective memory that is either hilarious or tragic, depending on your mood. And it’s all lovingly couched in outrage and profanity.”
—David Cross, I Drink for a Reason

“While not afraid to laugh at the American Taliban, Markos Moulitsas sees the culture warriors for the insidious, dangerous force they present to a free and democratic society.”
—Amanda Marcotte, Executive Editor, Pandagon.net

“Markos writes with a conscience and armed with facts to let you know: no, you’re not crazy. What you suspected all along was true—America’s right wing lives on a myth of self-constructed lies about the Other, with a juvenile disregard for reality, and Obama’s presidency has further radicalized an already radical conservative movement.”
—Janeane Garofalo, comic and actor

“Markos Moulitsas vividly exposes how the radical right and many leaders in the Republican Party , contrary to their incessant claims, actually hate the cherished American values of freedom, justice, tolerance and diversity of thought and expression. With sparkling clarity, American Taliban sounds the alarm on the well-funded, highly-placed authoritarians in this country who work daily to strip away civil liberties and viciously malign gays, women and other groups, and shows why they are treacherous to American democracy. We better listen.”
—Michelangelo Signorile, The Michelangelo Signorile Show, Sirius XM Radio

“American Taliban makes it clear that in a blind taste test the only way you’d be able to tell the difference between the GOP and Taliban philosophies would be beard hair.”
—Sam Seder, author, F.U.B.A.R: America’s Right Wing Nightmare

“Markos Moulitsas exposes Limbaugh, Palin, Beck, O’Reilly, Boehner, Gingrich, the Teabaggers, and the Birthers as mullahs of a modern American Taliban hell-bent on imposing their narrow-minded political jihad on us all.”
—John Aravosis, editor, AMERICAblog.com

“American Taliban shines a blinding light on the conservative right’s dark agenda. Anyone who genuinely cares about America should read this book.”
—David Coverdale, Whitesnake
JTT
 
  0  
Thu 9 Sep, 2010 12:57 pm
@JTT,


The problem is syllables, September 7, 2010
By Gen. JC Christian, patriot (Tremonton, UT United States)

This review is from: American Taliban: How War, Sex, Sin, and Power Bind Jihadists and the Radical Right (Paperback)

I don't read books written by demonic pipe-smoking communists with well-trimmed beards. I don't read books by homosexualist intellectuals with button-down collars who fill my head with vile carnality every second of the day. And, I don't read books written by subversive eyeglass-chain-wearing foreigner-praising English teachers--why don't they dump Shakespeare; he never wrote a play about the real Americans of the Heartland. Indeed, I take pride in the fact that I never read anything written by libislamunistofascists. The problem is syllables. There are too many syllables in their books. It all seems a little too Muslimy to me. It also gives me headaches.

That said, I felt a need to read this book by Markos Moulitsas. I believed that by reading it, I could learn something about the Great Orange Satan, something that could help me finally put an end to his subversive speech.

Unfortunately, the book offered up no weapons to defeat Markos--no Fiery Sword of the Terrible Cleansing, no Crusader's Blade of Righteous Bloodlust, No Corinthians 4:6 night-vision sniper scope, nothing. Reading American Taliban just pissed me off.

How dare the author compare the American right to the Taliban. Sure, we both hate sex, reproductive choice, secularism, government regulation, homosexualism, and masturbation. We both want to establish godly governments that enforce scriptural law. And, we both justify our wars on the basis of religion. But the similarities end there.

We fight our wars in the name of Our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. They fight their battles for Allah, a god who doesn't even know how to transubstantiate or turn water into a party.

We want to impose God's kingdom on Earth by passing biblically based sharia laws. The Koran serves as the basis of the Taliban's law, and unlike the Bible, it offers no object lessons in which she-bears eat children or whole cities are smitten with hemorrhoids.

The Taliban punish OB/GYNs using crude, uncivilized methods like stoning. We shoot doctors from a distance with a modern high-powered rifle.

While we may demand that our women dress modestly, and enforce it by calling them sluts or blaming them when they are victims of rape, our burka is a more fashionable and procreation-friendly burka.

Those are just a few examples of how we're dissimilar. I could go on about the differences between a crusade and a jihad; family values vs sharia; the unAllahed vs the unJesused, and morale sheep, adultery, and divorce vs temporary wives, etc, but I think I've made my point. The Great Orange Satan is wrong. We're not like the Taliban. We're God's favored people.
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cicerone imposter
 
  0  
Thu 9 Sep, 2010 12:59 pm
@okie,
I wrote about okie:
Quote:
"Your brain is fried, and no amount of facts and reason will ever change your mind."


That's fact, and it has been proven by many who challenge what you have written on these boards.

Tell me something I wrote that's a lie or unfounded.
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parados
 
  2  
Thu 9 Sep, 2010 02:00 pm
@okie,
Quote:
Did I say Obama is trying to destroy the country? Obviously no, and parados has never provided any quote wherein I have said that. If anyone would read what I wrote with comprehension, I said if voters want their country destroyed, they will continue to favor Obama and his policies.

If favoring Obama will cause the country to be destroyed then it means Obama is destroying the country. There is no other meaning. Claiming he is a Marxist, dictator wannabe would imply he is doing it purposely and not out of some misguided policies. Did you forget what you have said about Marxists okie?

On the other hand Inever said you claimed he was purposely doing it.
parados wrote:
Clearly you are stating that Obama is destroying the country. There is no other possible explanation or meaning for what you said.
I only said you claimed he was destroying it. In fact you admit that he is doing it.
Quote:
I do fully own up to the fact that I have said and I do believe Obama is destroying the country by using very misguided and wrong headed policies.




Like I said you would, you attempted to weasel out of your words. But you then said almost the same thing I did while pretending I said something different.

But you still haven't told what Obama's strong emotion toward America is okie. You claimed he has one. What is it if not hatred?


Quote:
So, parados, again, do you have the honor and decency to admit what you have done and apologize not only to me, but to all posters here on A2K for your devious twisting of what other people say?
I see no reason to apologize when you are the one lying and being dishonest okie. You deny what you have said. You change what I have said to try to make it look like you have an argument. Face it okie. You are scum that can't face up to what it is you do because you probably know you are acting like the **** you are.
plainoldme
 
  1  
Thu 9 Sep, 2010 02:05 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
I see no difference between describing Obama as a having a dictator complex or the will to be a dictator and saying that Obama wants to ruin the country.

I thought nixon, reagan and bush II wanted to ruin the country as well and the first one came close. It is still a tad too soon to determine whether the second two succeeded.
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plainoldme
 
  1  
Thu 9 Sep, 2010 02:06 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Obviously, your stomach is stronger than mine.
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plainoldme
 
  1  
Thu 9 Sep, 2010 02:07 pm
@okie,
Quote:

Cyclops, you have read my posts long enough to know what I think


Thinks?!
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plainoldme
 
  1  
Thu 9 Sep, 2010 02:10 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I believe that most of bush's statements fall into the category that linguists call marking. He stated an untruth in an attempt to make it true.

I am re-reading Nineteen Eight-Four because I want my students to select it from the 8 choices I offered my ENG 101 class. Wow! Sounds like bush to me.
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parados
 
  2  
Thu 9 Sep, 2010 02:24 pm
@okie,
Quote:
Never did I say that Obama is actively trying to destroy the country intentionally, so as predictable, it is parados that has been lying all along, not me.


And yet okie did say this..
Quote:
All of that only agrees with what we already know, Obama is a radical and probably a dictator wannabe. You don't have Marxist friends and appoint them because you don't know any better.

http://able2know.org/topic/71145-1744#post-4315406

If Obama isn't doing it because he doesn't know better than what does it mean okie? It certainly can't mean he is doing it because he doesn't know better.

Again, we see okie is nothing but a lying piece of dung. Claiming he never said things that he clearly did.
dyslexia
 
  1  
Thu 9 Sep, 2010 02:33 pm
@parados,
you know parados, Walter is here with us for his usual vacation from Germany and we were talking last night about how disappointed we are that Okie has taken us off his signature line about his putting us on ignore, we both considered it an honour and we got to see our names on a2k every time okie posted.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 9 Sep, 2010 02:36 pm
@dyslexia,
I've asked okie to put me on Ignore too, but he refuses. Now, I must live with the rest of a2kers that will continue to challenge what he posts. Hey, but it's fun!
dyslexia
 
  1  
Thu 9 Sep, 2010 02:41 pm
@cicerone imposter,
well ci, I can honestly say I have zero evidence that okie has ever fucked a chicken.
Finn dAbuzz
 
  1  
Thu 9 Sep, 2010 05:12 pm
What an idiotic attack.

People who were absolutely certain that Bush was malignant are calling Okie on believing Obama is.

Whether he wants to or not, Obama is systematically degrading the country.

If he is as smart as so many of his followers believe him to be then an argument can be made that intent can be implied.

If I shoot into a crowd, I can claim all day that I didn't intend to hurt anyone, but common sense and the law will infer that I did.

Personally, I don't think he's anything like an Islamist sleeper trying to destroy America, but I do think his ego is massive enough that he would rather ruin the country then admit he was wrong or even appear to be swayed by his critics.

I can sympathize with his unwillingness to admit he's wrong about anything. His critics won't give him credit for it, they'll just use it against him, but I bet the American people would appreciate it, and those who have leaned away from him might lean back.

But here's where his massive ego gets in the way and insures that he will take this country down the drain if he can't be restrained.

Think back to the healthcare debate. Once Brown was elected amidst poll saying the American people, overwhelmingly, didn't want Obamacare, virtually every pundit in the land thought it was dead. Obviously it wasn't and Obama wasn't going to allow anything to prevent him from being THE Democrat that got it through.

After that why should he consider changing his mind about anything?

He won't.

rabel22
 
  1  
Thu 9 Sep, 2010 05:14 pm
@dyslexia,
Prove it!
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