Obama '08?

@okie,

I see you are going to continue to be a dishonest piece of **** okie.

You really do have no decency or honesty about what you have said or the meaning you are implying with your words.

http://able2know.org/topic/71145-1531#post-3852593

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As more and more people realize we have a president with Marxist beliefs and a dictator wannabe, it should go alot lower. It all depends upon the collective character of the country, if they want their country destroyed, or do they want to salvage it and vote the rascals out next election

Clearly you are stating that Obama is destroying the country. There is no other possible explanation or meaning for what you said.

You are dishonest as can be okie. Now you will lie and try to claim your statement doesn't mean Obama is working to destroy the country. You are a piece of work. No honesty at all.

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By William Branigin and Michelle Boorstein
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, September 9, 2010; 8:59 AM

President Obama urged a Florida pastor Thursday to call off a plan to burn copies of the Koran on Sept. 11, warning that such a "stunt" would amount to a "recruitment bonanza for al-Qaeda" and would endanger Americans.

Obama added his voice to a chorus of criticism of the proposed Koran-burning in an interview broadcast Thursday on ABC's "Good Morning America" program. He urged Terry Jones, pastor of a small evangelical church in Gainesville, Fla., to listen to his "better angels" and cancel his plan to burn copies of the Muslim holy book on the ninth anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/09/AR2010090901878.html?hpid=topnews

It is now very clear that this guy is genetically incapable of keeping his mouth shut about things that are none if his business. The is more evidence, which frankly at this point is not required, that he needs to be replaced.

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@hawkeye10,

Which guy can't keep his mouth shut?

The President has a very real business when it comes to relations with muslims in Afghanistan, Iran and Iraq. When an idiot is doing something to inflame hatred, it IS the President's business.

You on the other hand have no business commenting hawkeye unless you want to let us know how much of a bigot you are.

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@okie,

Dude, once again, you did not present things that Obama has said or done. You presented something that someone else said about him. I asked you to present things that he has said or done that stand up to the rhetoric that you throw around.

And AGAIN, you are completely and totally unable to do so.

Cycloptichorn

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@hawkeye10,

Whatever he chooses to be his business, is his business. He's the President.

Whereas you are just some asshole with an opinion.

And I'll ask - what exactly is wrong with what he said? Nothing. Unless, of course, you are an anti-Muslim bigot, in which case I can see why you would be upset, Hawkeye.

Cycloptichorn

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@okie,

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I think he feels strongly that America is very flawed and that it needs changing to something he visualizes as more fair, just, and equal for all

Funny, you think America is flawed. Your solution is that the country should head toward the right. Obama's is actually that it should remain in the center. The problem is that his center is your Never Never Land.

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His first couple of years as president has not at all dispelled that radical liberal pattern.

Actually, these past 20 months have shown Obama to be as centrist as Bill Clinton.

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@cicerone imposter,

Thanks for your efforts. okie, of course, will find some way to deny all this. Wow, what an effeminate snit he is. Ugh. Distasteful rantings.

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@parados,

parados wrote:

I see you are going to continue to be a dishonest piece of **** okie.

You really do have no decency or honesty about what you have said or the meaning you are implying with your words.

http://able2know.org/topic/71145-1531#post-3852593

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As more and more people realize we have a president with Marxist beliefs and a dictator wannabe, it should go alot lower. It all depends upon the collective character of the country, if they want their country destroyed, or do they want to salvage it and vote the rascals out next election

Clearly you are stating that Obama is destroying the country. There is no other possible explanation or meaning for what you said.

You are dishonest as can be okie. Now you will lie and try to claim your statement doesn't mean Obama is working to destroy the country. You are a piece of work. No honesty at all.

Folks, here for all to see is parados supposed proof that I said that Obama is trying to destroy the country. Now let us apply common sense to parados's claim. Did I say Obama is trying to destroy the country? Obviously no, and parados has never provided any quote wherein I have said that. If anyone would read what I wrote with comprehension, I said if voters want their country destroyed, they will continue to favor Obama and his policies. Obviously many politicians inadvertantly do things, not intentionally. Many politicians are just misguided and they actually think their policies that are destructive will be successful. I think this is the more accurate scenario for Obama. Never did I say that Obama is actively trying to destroy the country intentionally, so as predictable, it is parados that has been lying all along, not me. He has twisted and mischaracterized what I have said in his effort to make a case that I have lied, and obviously that is not the case when you actually read what I have posted.

I do fully own up to the fact that I have said and I do believe Obama is destroying the country by using very misguided and wrong headed policies. How much destruction he will accomplish depends upon how much longer he has a Congressional majority and whether he wins a second term. I am hopeful that the destruction and damage will be minimized. But is Obama knowingly trying to destroy the country, I don't think so.

So, parados, again, do you have the honor and decency to admit what you have done and apologize not only to me, but to all posters here on A2K for your devious twisting of what other people say?

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@okie,

I can't help but notice that you do refer to him as a 'dictator wannabe.' It's difficult to see how you could make such an accusation without believing that he is in fact trying to change things here into a Dictatorship, which would in fact qualify as 'destroying the country.'

Cycloptichorn

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@Cycloptichorn,

I do have a theory that the man has sort of a dictator complex or a dictator wannabe. He kind of fits the profile. Obviously, I cannot say that without a shadow of a doubt, but that is my take from reading his book and monitoring all that he says and does.

I do not think the system here will allow a dictatorship to happen, thankfully.

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@okie,

okie wrote:

I do have a theory that he guy has sort of a dictator complex or a dictator wannabe. He kind of fits the profile. Obviously, I cannot say that without a shadow of a doubt, but that is my take from reading his book and monitoring all that he says and does.

How is that different than saying he is Anti-American, or wants to destroy the country? How do you reconcile these two positions?

Suffice it to say that I think Parados has somewhat of a stronger case then you seem to think. I know that if I went back and reviewed your past comments, I could find some pretty silly stuff that was written about Obama; with the majority if not entirety of supporting evidence presented by you consisting of his associations and what you PERCEIVE to be his beliefs, while carefully ignoring the many hundreds or thousands of statements or actions that he has taken which contradict your account of him.

I'm sure you don't want me to do that, do you? Let us just agree that we all have made hyperbolic statements from time to time.

Cycloptichorn

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In regard to polls, Rasmussen has Obama at all time lows today.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

"Today's Approval Index rating is the lowest yet recorded for this president. Overall Job Approval matches the lowest recorded number, and the number who Strongly Disapprove matches the highest yet recorded. "

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/var/plain/storage/images/media/obama_index_graphics/september_2010/obama_approval_index_september_9_2010/377054-1-eng-US/obama_approval_index_september_9_2010.jpg

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/var/plain/storage/images/media/obama_total_approval_graphics/september_2010/obama_total_approval_september_9_2010/377057-1-eng-US/obama_total_approval_september_9_2010.jpg

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@okie,

Despite Rasmussen's biased polling, the truth is that Obama's poll numbers have been remarkably stable over the last year.

http://www.pollster.com/Obama44JobApprovalr.png

In the last year his average approval has dropped less than 5 points. And I would also point out that he has higher approval ratings at this point than either Clinton or Reagan did at this point in their terms....

Not that I think this will end your drumbeat of negativity about the guys' approval ratings, Okie. Not for a second. But it's worth pointing out that the image you present is flawed.

Cycloptichorn

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@Cycloptichorn,

Yeah, Cyclo, I went back to page 1698, so if you can go further back on this blog to pick out the okie gems would be greatly appreciated. I know for sure there are more Obama bashing by okie that should be repeated for all to see to show he's a liar and fear monger with innuendos and unproven labels that he never shows any support or evidence for. Just his own imagination working hard to show how ignorant he is.

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@Cycloptichorn,

Cyclo, You also need to emphasize the fact that Pollster.com consolidates all polls and averages them out. Something okie never does in trying to prove his point.

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@Cycloptichorn,

Cycloptichorn wrote:

How is that different than saying he is Anti-American, or wants to destroy the country? How do you reconcile these two positions?

Suffice it to say that I think Parados has somewhat of a stronger case then you seem to think. I know that if I went back and reviewed your past comments, I could find some pretty silly stuff that was written about Obama; with the majority if not entirety of supporting evidence presented by you consisting of his associations and what you PERCEIVE to be his beliefs, while carefully ignoring the many hundreds or thousands of statements or actions that he has taken which contradict your account of him.

I'm sure you don't want me to do that, do you? Let us just agree that we all have made hyperbolic statements from time to time.
Cycloptichorn

Cyclops, you have read my posts long enough to know what I think, and obviously I am no Obama fan. I believe Obama is very misguided and his policies are detrimental and in some cases destructive to the country. Does this mean he hates the country and is trying to destroy it, obviously not, and I think you are honest enough and fair enough to know that I don't think Obama is intentionally trying to do that. Similarly, many Bush opponents probably think Bush had policies that were detrimental and destructive, but I think that most would also be fair enough to say it was not intentional, it was misguided or due to Bush's supposed stupidity. I am not a mind reader, and similarly I cannot read Obama's mind, I can only express my opinion here, which I have done in total honesty and sincerity. What really destroys the discourse here is when folks like parados attempt to twist what conservatives say and attempt to manufacture it into something else. That is not only destructive to profitable debate, but it is also intellectually dishonest.

I have probably made hyperbolic statements, I think I would agree with that, but face it, cyclops, Obama is no average politician, he is highly unusual and I think also divisive in a number of ways. You are either a big fan of the man, to the point of thinking he is a political messiah, or you recognize his extremely radical ideas and situations around his life, his associations and people he appoints, admit he is not your average Democrat even from years past.

If you have followed my posts here over the past years, you would also realize I hoped Obama would knock out Hillary in the primary, I even expressed some compliments for the man early on. I was happy to think we might be rid of the Clintons once and for all in the national political arena, because I thought they were also very destructive to America, and I still think they were. However, as time wore on and I have learned more about Obama, I am not at all liking his politics and of course I will say so on an opinion forum. Is that against the law? After all, how much demonizing of Bush has gone on here in years past. What goes around comes around. Politics are cyclical, and I believe it may be the Republicans turn to see if they can straighten things out in Washington, as the mood of the country is turning against the Democrats, at least that is what appears to be happening, and I couldn't be more thrilled with that.

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@okie,

GWB was more divisive but pretend to mouth unity.

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@talk72000,

I still remember when GW Bush said, "I'm a uniter, not a divider." Lo and behold, he produced the most divisive period in our country's history between the parties.

He's responsible for the No Party of today.

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@cicerone imposter,

Thanks, I remembered that but not the exact quote. Wink

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

Yeah, Cyclo, I went back to page 1698, so if you can go further back on this blog to pick out the okie gems would be greatly appreciated. I know for sure there are more Obama bashing by okie that should be repeated for all to see to show he's a liar and fear monger with innuendos and unproven labels that he never shows any support or evidence for. Just his own imagination working hard to show how ignorant he is.

If I wanted to waste the time, I could also clutter up this forum with your quotes too, ci, wherein you repeatedly have said that people are stupid, without a brain, or similar types of insults.

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