Is being gay a choice?

Hey, no need to be so rude!

She's in a bit of an emotional turmoil right now -- forgive her and let it go.

He wasn't the only one.

And, cheating compared as synonymous with living an honest life in the open--as in your analogy--is based on an inherent unfairness and insensitivity toward gay people.

I don't think you did it on purpose, but I am suggesting you may want to rethink the fairness of that analogy.

The "**** you" was over the top, and I am pretty sure against TOS. We will find out if someone will hit the report button. My super pop up zapper prohibits me finding out.

Okie dokie, but it's quite unnecessary to talk to other members in that way. Even when you have gotten yourself into a bit of a corner.

The fact that for a second time PQ did not read her post and figure out that it would easily be interpreted negatively is witness to what I hope is a temporary condition. I certainly did not hit the report button but can't prevent anyone else from doing so. Reading her posts for the past few days, I think she needs a pass on this one.

I've just gone back to have a look at what PQ said. Not only is it a case of comparing apples and oranges, but it does look suspiciously like she was equating homosexuals with cheating wives as if they were both as promiscuous.

I'll give PQ the benefit of a doubt, however, as her predicament seems suspiciously similar to RaceDriver's. You know, saying something that on the face appears to be rather homophobic but in the end turns out to be just a bad choice of examples and words.

A good reason to stop and look before one clicks on the Submit button.

You know what? This whole relationship thing, gay or straight if for the birds! If your gay, accept it, and what do you care if other people accept it? It's your f*ing life! so live it.

And if you're straight and you have a problem with gays, you need to get over it. I'm tired of people nosing their way into other peoples business in the name of god. And that's all it is, a god thing... Most Atheists have no problem with gays.

It is a privacy issue -- but there are religious organizations who do not discriminate against gays. One of the local gay AA's meetings is at a Methodist Church and the manager of the meeting room areas is gay (you can't mistake it either).

I think it is obvious that any form of bigotry is created mostly in the home and comes from the parent's own bigotry. Jake Gyllenhaal's God parents are a male gay couple.

Bigotry is a mental abberation but it is curable.

I just wanted to add that this forum is not Yahoo! chat and thank gawd for that. A2Kers try to avoid the off-the-cuff chattiness that permeates most forums and we've collected together some very intelligent and caring people. It doesn't exclude those who want to just chat but when coming onto a serious subject like this one it doesn't help to just scan the discussion and make a comment that is extremely questionable as to motive and then dissapear. I suggest one signs up for the E mail updates if they want to participate in serious discussion so they know what the response is to their comments. Otherwise, I believe they just don't care. I've been guilty on occasion of this in the past which is why I'm willing to give PQ a pass. I think there was an assumption that everyone knew her and that she would not possible mean what she had posted. Not true.

The concept of "homosexuality" scares some people. As I mentioned in the beginning of this thread, some people may actually be closeted and unwilling to face their own sexuality. They hide behind the mask of "I'm not Gay" and try desperately to discredit those who are open. As LW points out, Homosexualit is normal. Bigotry is a mental illness.

That's the turn-around and look in a mirror aspect. People aren't born as bigots and it's virtually been proven, except for clinical psychopaths, that we are born with a sense of moral values. If we are born gay, we shouldn't let outside pressures deter us from finding happiness and not harm another person by establishing a relationship that is against our nature. Bigotry is learned and those at fault are the teachers, including religious clerics and parents. Peers, of course, have an influence as so many of us probably learned about sex in the schoolyard or in a classroom before our parents even addressed the issue. Don't know what can be done about that -- I think people need to be educated to be parents. There's virtually no class for parenting. I would call that the Dr. Spock syndrome. It's not that bigotry is abnormal per se or a mental illness but what is wrong is that it should not be, at least, normal.

I do question that.

I don't have time to look for the studies but about three years ago I read an extensive article in a professional medical magazine (for Doctors and Psychologists) who offered the proof from a study. There's likely more by now. Try Googling it as I have a bad cold and am going to the doctor for anti-biotics (which I've put off for three days as I was on Zicam and Gufaisen and it seemed to be quelling the symptoms), then to work. Of course, I do get online at work when it is slow (as art galleries are this time of year).

"Normal" is a setting on the washing machine.

Okay, now that was a terse line that I immediately got. No mystery!

I know I am an incurable iconoclast, which is also supposedly a diversion from the "norm," and most of the time try not to let it control me. Unless one has a clinical psychiatric problem and try not to not harm other people, we are normal within our own soul (the soul as described by Francis Crick in "Astonishing Hypothesis: The Scientific Search for the Soul")

(Now I think I need to tumble dry -- it might help this dreadful allergy cold or whatever the hell it is).

Couldn't resist posting that, LightWizard. Lately, it's been a phrase I've thought a lot about. Makes me think. Hope you are having a good day.

I'll be fine after the rinse cycle (spraying nose with Ocean).

Hehehe. Good one, LightWizard. I do hope that you get feeling better.