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THE NEW CAT ROOM! (or the Cat Room #2)

 
 
Vivien
 
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Reply Sat 9 Dec, 2006 09:19 am
Very Happy just how I picture living in NY

I had the chance to go very cheaply in my final year of the degree and it was a choice between finishing off really well with my paintings and missing NY or risking a lower grade as I really couldn't afford the time away - and as a mature student a very exhausting jet-lagging time away,

I decided to stay here and work - which did pay off and I won a prize at the degree show,

I do regret having to miss NY though Sad

Those who went stayed in a cheap hotel near Central Park and they all had a fabulous time Sad - MOMA and all the galleries, the touristy stuff, shopping ......
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Roberta
 
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Reply Sat 9 Dec, 2006 02:24 pm
One of the (many) things I love about New York is that you can find something to interest you regardless of your interests. Yup, great shopping, although I haven't done that in a while. But this is a superb place for art lovers, of which I'm one. The Metropolitan Museum is one of the finest in the world. Brilliant collections of a variety of schools. I especially love the impressionist collection. The Museum of Modern Art has some great permanent collections. I love some of the early Picassos--and La Guernica. Not so early, but brilliant. The Guggenheim Museum is three blocks from where I live. I'm not crazy about the place, but Frank Lloyd Wright designed the building. One of my favorite paintings is on permanent display at the Frick (near where I went to school). It's a Rembrandt self-portrait. This painting speaks to me.

I could go on, but I won't. Congrats on winning the prize.
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Vivien
 
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Reply Sun 10 Dec, 2006 09:47 am
sighs with envy! ..... so close!

Rembrandt is amazing isn't he? seeing a repro in a book just doesn't do them justice - the insight into character and the total honesty of his self portraits over the years are amazing and the loose and impressionist way he applies paint appeals to me. Globs and trails of paint coalesce into lace as you move away - magic Smile

I can't see me ever affording to get there Sad

My father went to NY with the RAF when I was young (link with USAF) and did all the Emprie State Building, Saks, Statue of Liberty stuff. Then they were in Arizona - some contrast! He had a great time.
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Roberta
 
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Reply Mon 11 Dec, 2006 04:22 am
Vivien, I'd love to talk to you more about Rembrandt, but maybe this isn't the right place. Peoples here wanna talk about their felines.

Should I send you a PM? Don't worry if you'd rather not. I won't be offended.
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msolga
 
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Reply Mon 11 Dec, 2006 04:28 am
<Waving>

Hi Roberta! Very Happy
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Roberta
 
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Reply Mon 11 Dec, 2006 05:03 am
Hiya, msolga. Notice the time. It's 6:02 here. Trying to get tired enough to go to sleep. Gotta get up early.

How's Poppy and your tomato?
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Vivien
 
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Reply Mon 11 Dec, 2006 12:22 pm
Roberta wrote:
Vivien, I'd love to talk to you more about Rembrandt, but maybe this isn't the right place. Peoples here wanna talk about their felines.

Should I send you a PM? Don't worry if you'd rather not. I won't be offended.[/quote


YES PLEASE!!!! I'd love that and I'll send you my email address Smile
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dlowan
 
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Reply Mon 11 Dec, 2006 02:13 pm
What are we, chopped liver?


Rembrandt's Cats:


http://www.blueskyart.com/items/Rembrandt%20Cat.jpg


http://www.blueskyart.com/items/Tux.jpg


http://www.thetartgallery.com/rembrandtscat-ausgang.jpg


http://www.tamsquare.net/thumbnail/R/Henriette-Ronner-Knip-Cat-.jpg


http://www.frans-koppelaar.nl/overig/200516.jpg


:wink:
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Diane
 
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Reply Mon 11 Dec, 2006 05:05 pm
Rembrandt had quite a feline sense of humor.
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Roberta
 
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Reply Mon 11 Dec, 2006 05:52 pm
Deb, I can't tell from thousands of miles away whether you're chopped liver or not. If I had to guess, I'd say no.

I thought that a discussion about Rembrandt would be considerably off topic and intrusive on this thread, which is supposed to be about pussycats.

Thanks for the loverly paintings of felines, although the third one from the top looks just a bit off to me.
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margo
 
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Reply Mon 11 Dec, 2006 08:11 pm
Roberta wrote:

Thanks for the loverly paintings of felines, although the third one from the top looks just a bit off to me.


Next you'll be telling us that that particular pussy isn't Rembrandt's style!

Huh????
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dlowan
 
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Reply Mon 11 Dec, 2006 08:49 pm
Roberta wrote:
Deb, I can't tell from thousands of miles away whether you're chopped liver or not. If I had to guess, I'd say no.

I thought that a discussion about Rembrandt would be considerably off topic and intrusive on this thread, which is supposed to be about pussycats.

Thanks for the loverly paintings of felines, although the third one from the top looks just a bit off to me.



I know what you thought.


That's why I am teasing you.


A thread for that discussion would be great, though......hint...hint....
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margo
 
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Reply Tue 12 Dec, 2006 08:18 pm
dlowan wrote:
Roberta wrote:
Deb, I can't tell from thousands of miles away whether you're chopped liver or not. If I had to guess, I'd say no.



I know what you thought.


That's why I am teasing you.


A thread for that discussion would be great, though......hint...hint....


a thread for discussion on whether Deb is chopped liver or not? Hmmmm! How much discussion would that generate?
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Roberta
 
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Reply Tue 12 Dec, 2006 11:07 pm
margo wrote:
dlowan wrote:
Roberta wrote:
Deb, I can't tell from thousands of miles away whether you're chopped liver or not. If I had to guess, I'd say no.



I know what you thought.


That's why I am teasing you.


A thread for that discussion would be great, though......hint...hint....


a thread for discussion on whether Deb is chopped liver or not? Hmmmm! How much discussion would that generate?


Probably more than a discussion on Rembrandt. Just a guess. But determining what kind of spread Deb is could be fodder for lots of posters here. From such a great distance it's hard for me to say. Maybe pate. Still liver, but a lot smoother.
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Diane
 
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Reply Wed 13 Dec, 2006 12:10 am
Hmmm, can't imagine Deb as a force-fed goose.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Wed 13 Dec, 2006 02:58 am
Thread on REMBRANDT for crissake, and on joys of NYC galleries.


They were wonderful..........I wanna know more.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 13 Dec, 2006 03:04 am
This article might be interesting, today's Independent :wink:

Quote:


Kitty power: A woman's best friend

Once seen as the preserve of the spinster class, felines have become young females' pet of choice - prompting one cat-food brand to invest millions to win their business.

By Guy Adams
Published: 13 December 2006

Six hundred years after Dick Whittington, dogs may still command the honorific, "man's best friend", but they can no longer claim to be companion of choice for the average, upwardly-mobile female.

In a development that would have delighted London's most famous mayor, that distinction now rests with the humble cat, a pet that outnumbers its canine rival in this country by a million and a half. Not only do an estimated 4.7 million women in the UK own cats - almost four times the number of men - but developments in the £7m-a-year cat-food market suggest an ever-increasing proportion are drawn from the trendiest sections of society.

This week, the makers of Sheba announced they had hired a Hollywood director to film a new advertising campaign aimed at attracting, "stylish" and "independent" women to their product. The£1m, three-part commercial based on Alice in Wonderland, will be directed by Martha Fiennes, sister of the actor Ralph. It stars the ballerina Monica Zamora, together with two sought-after models: Eva Imsa and Meritxell.

For a creature that has suffered in the past from its association with spinsterhood, the TV advertisement, which stars a British Blue Shorthair cat, marks the latest in a remarkable series of PR triumphs. Not only has the advertising industry begun to re-invent their image - the Bacardi Breezer adverts star a silver-haired cat for example - but several leading style-icons, including the artist Tracey Emin have used them in recent work.

According to experts, this reversal of fortunes is in part due to low-maintenance ownership, which lends itself to the lifestyle of upwardly-mobile career women. Men, who tend to want unconditional loyalty in their pets, still prefer a dog. "There used to be this stereotype of the post-menopausal spinster of this parish, who would live with 15 cats and was ever so slightly mad," says the cat behaviour counsellor, Vicky Halls. "But it's just not so any more, in my professional experience.

"Nowadays, you get a lot of stylish, successful and independent women whose Achilles heel is their cat. They can be strong and self-assured and in control, and then a cat comes into their life and they suddenly become all gooey."

"If you're working long hours, it's not practical to have a dog, unless it's one you can carry in your handbag. Cats have a wonderful adaptability. They can be completely independent, but then capable of exhibiting great love on tap."

To some observers - many of them male - cats offer childless single women a low-rent alternative to a baby. But Ms Halls, the author of Cat Counsellor, believes the relationship between a woman and her cat cannot be explained away so easily.

"There's a bit of the mother/child relationship there, but its too simplistic to put the entire thing down to that: if women want a baby then in this day and age they can jolly well go out and have one."

"Actually, cats have a rakish attitude, and sometimes it seems that they're not a child substitute, but a male relationship replacement. They have the appeal of a dismissive bad boy: they'll ignore you 95 per cent of the time but then rub up and down your leg and you'll think 'wow!'.

That, at least, is the view of one stylish, independent cat owner.

But whether eight out of ten moggies will prefer their new image - or indeed Sheba's catfood adverts - is anyone's guess.

Tracey Emin Artist Owns Docket

When I wake up in the morning and see his little grey and white face, long white whiskers, little black nose, big round eyes, fluffy ears, I can't believe that God could have made something so perfect. I can't express to many human beings, unless they are cat lovers, how much I love Docket.

People think that cats are aloof and cool and cold. Docket is the complete opposite. He's very cuddly, talks a lot and actually can follow a couple of commands.

Docket is half-British Blue and half-Moggy. He came from Vallance Road where the Kray twins came from. The only thing that Docket seems to have in common with them is that he is a touch on the Dandy side.

His best friend was Fleabite - a strange little creature with greasy fur and no teeth, whose last couple of years was spent in comfort with Docket in a much healthier state. Docket's new best friend is a little ginger, camp thing called Pious who lives a few doors down.

My quality of life is a million times better thanks to Docket. Unconditional love is so important in this world.

Celia Hammond Former model owns 100 cats

I came into cats having always been a dog lover, but because I lived in a flat at the time I couldn't have a dog. They were really the next best thing, and then I got obsessed with them.

Cats have this reputation for being aloof and independent, or even arrogant, but they are such wonderful creatures. You just become cat mad. They don't give their heart to just anybody, like dogs. They need to get to know you before they give you their love.

I think that's why they're more of a woman's animal. Men can't handle a cat not liking them. They want a dog who will love them and put their head on their knee, and obey them.

People say to me that obviously you've become what you are because you've never had children. But that's not fair at all. All sorts of people have an emotional attachment to their animals, not just childless people. Some people think I'm mad or that the cats are a child substitute, but is there anything so wrong with getting emotional feedback from an animal?

Amanda Platell Political commentator owns Jim

Jim is from Doncaster. I used to own Ronnie, a three-legged ginger tom, who was the brother of Reggie. When he died, I wrote a piece about it. Hundreds and hundreds of people wrote offering another, and one letter stood out. It was from Jim, who is a rescue cat who was about to be thrown away. I picked him up at Junction 21 of the M1; this man handed over this pitiful scrap of a cat. That was three years ago. He's not a scrap any more. In fact, he's being treated for obesity by the vet. The problem is that most cats are given what they want and they want the crappiest food, in the way that kids love McDonald's. Mine only likes Felix. I've tried luxury things, or stuff the vet has advised, and he just won't eat it. The catfood makers think that stylish, sophisticated women must have posh cats. But in fact we just have mogs. There are lots of women who are dog people, but not quite so many men who are cat people. I suspect it's a macho thing.

Cindy Jackson Britain's most surgically enhanced woman

I'm single, although I do have a boyfriend, and love coming home to find somebody there. There are animal spirits in the house, and things going on without me there, and that makes it feel like a home.

Kato is a second-generation Bengal, which is a wild cat hybrid. He's the closest you can own to a wild cat without having a licence. He has more vertebrae than a house cat, and walks around with his tail down.

I never wanted children. I was never maternal, nor in a position to afford them when I was of a breeding age. They say artists love cats, and soldiers love dogs. Well you can find artists and soldiers in both sexes, and it's a myth that only sad old women own them.

Sheba? I would never give them that swill. Have you ever seen tinned catfood? Or smelt it? Mine get fresh fish and fresh meat, and water, because milk is not good for a cat. There's no way they'd get any tinned muck.

Ann Widdecombe Politician owns Pugwash II and Arbuthnot

A million-pound TV advert aimed at women cat owners? Well, I suppose we're all soft on our cats. Mine live with me in London. They're furry and purry and independent. As a working woman I couldn't keep a dog in London, because they require exercise. But a cat is different.

It's a little bit of a caricature, because there are obviously men who adore cats, and women who love dogs. But generally I think it's true that cats are a woman's pet. I think men love to be adored, and a dog is totally loyal to you, whereas a cat is a freer spirit. It will only come onto your lap to be stroked when it wants to.

Mine are fed a variety of food: Whiskas, Sheeba, gourmet food. They get all sorts of flavours: fish, meat and gravy, and they have a whale of a time. If you give a cat just raw meat, you deprive it of essential vitamins.

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Roberta
 
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Reply Wed 13 Dec, 2006 04:27 am
Here's the link to the new thread in the Art Forum. At least I hope it's the link. I'm not good with this computer stuff.

http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=88204&highlight=
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msolga
 
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Reply Wed 13 Dec, 2006 05:19 am
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Cats have this reputation for being aloof and independent, or even arrogant, but they are such wonderful creatures. You just become cat mad. They don't give their heart to just anybody, like dogs. They need to get to know you before they give you their love.

I think that's why they're more of a woman's animal. Men can't handle a cat not liking them. They want a dog who will love them and put their head on their knee, and obey them.


Oh, that's so true!!!!

Don't you think, girls? :wink:

Interesting article, Walter. Thanks for posting.
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Vivien
 
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Reply Wed 13 Dec, 2006 11:33 am
fascinating Walter - and Tracey Emin can't be all bad after all!
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