Can the US bring peace in the Middle East?

Extreme sarcasm just doesn't come across in this forum as well as I would wish, c.i.

I am going to petition Craven for a 'contempt' emoticon...

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dys, Sorta like the Lynch rescue. Bah, humbug! ;( c.i.

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Palestinians strike in Gaza, Hebron

Militants jointly claim responsibility for killing
four Israeli soldiers
Three Palestinian groups are claiming joint responsibility for the murder of four Israeli soldiers at a northern Gaza checkpoint. MSNBC's Hanson Hosein reports from Tel Aviv.
MSNBC NEWS SERVICES
GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip, June 8 ?- Three Palestinians disguised as Israeli military sneaked into an army post Sunday and killed four soldiers before being killed by troops ?- the first major attack on Israelis since last week's Mideast summit. Later, in the West Bank city of Hebron, another Israeli was killed with two Palestinian gunmen in an exchange of fire, the military said. The shootings, possible setbacks to a U.S.-backed peace plan, came hours after Palestinian militant groups said they would not end attacks on Israelis.

AFTER THE KILLINGS, Israel quickly demanded Palestinian officials crack down on militants.
Three armed groups ?- Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the Al Aqsa Martyrs' Brigade ?- jointly claimed responsibility for the Gaza shootings. A leaflet gave the names of the gunmen, all in their early 20s, one from each group.
"This joint operation was committed to confirm our people's united choice of holy war and resistance until the end of occupation over our land and holy places," the leaflet said.
The attacks are a blow to efforts by Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas to persuade militants to halt attacks on Israelis ?- his strategy for bringing a halt to violence as required under the U.S.-backed "road map" for peace.
Hamas pulled out of truce negotiations last week, and the Al Aqsa militia's participation in the shooting poses a direct challenge to Abbas, since the group is linked to his ruling Fatah movement.
Secretary of State Colin Powell said the violence must not derail peace efforts and that the United States would support Abbas in an effort to rein in militant groups. "Now we have to give him the capacity and capability" to resist the anti-Israeli attackers, Powell said.

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Israel action: Open borders to show good faith.
Palestinian response: Kill Israelis.

Same old pattern.

The UN and US are sending an arsenal to Abbas to arm his police force. Does this seem crazy to anyone else? Are there Palestinians, who would bear arms against Hamas, al-aqsa and the islamic jihad? Does anyone know of any data determining if there are any actual pro-peace Palestinians, who are willing to live beside Israel?Rest of article. MSNBC.

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Bush's Commitment to Peace Plan Gives Rise to Optimism in the Arab World

By SUSAN SACHS

CAIRO, June 7 — President Bush's promise to concentrate on resolving the Palestinian-Israeli conflict has produced a striking turnaround in some quarters of the Arab world: it has made the United States a focus of Arab hope instead of rage.
In the afterglow of two Middle East summit meetings this week, many Arab officials and commentators said they were won over by Mr. Bush's stated determination to "ride herd" on the two sides to bring about the creation of a Palestinian State.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/08/international/middleeast/08ARAB.html?th
I wonder now reliable the Arab nations commitment to peace is. Will the worm turn when they find that all their demands are not to be met?
Do they understand what the word compromise means?And if so will they?
And last but by no means least will they cut off funding and support of the Palestinian terror groups.

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au, Did you know that there is no equivalent word to "compromise" in the Arabic language? c.i.

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http://csmonitor.com/2003/0609/csmimg/cartoon.jpg

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cicerone imposter wrote:

au, Did you know that there is no equivalent word to "compromise" in the Arabic language? c.i.

Same in English, since it's French/Latin.

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Walter
The derivation of the word may be Latin/French as so much of English is. The word compromise however is listed in the English dictionary. According to c.i. it does not exist in Arabic. I doubt that even if did they do not understand or agree with the concept.

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Acording to my printed sources, the word is exactly the same in Arabic. However, I'll try to find some online source as well.

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Well, at least, online dictionaries can translate it - but neither I nor A2K software can read that.

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I'm not sure how true it is about the non-existence of the word for "compromise" in Arabic, but there supposedly an article written by a Egyptian businessman and writer named Tarek Heggy, "who makes the claim that Arabs have never ceded to the "culture of compromise" - and in fact, he said, Arabic doesn't even have a word for that notion." In that respect, I'm just stating what I read in today's San Jose Mercury News. c.i.

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Compromise - translation to and from Arabic

Does the Concept of "Compromise" Exist in the Arab Psyche?

merriam-webster:

Quote:

Etymology: Middle English, mutual promise to abide by an arbiter's decision, from Middle French compromis, from Latin compromissum, from neuter of compromissus, past participle of compromittere to promise mutually

Quite interesting that European languages didn't develop an own word for this, both Germanic and Romanic groups use the latin noun.

I wonder, if origianlly Germanic culture knew about 'compromise' - would be interesting to find out more.

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As usual war criminal Sharon has chosen continued war than a peace involving a Palestinian state. It was Sharon that undermined the fragile authority Abu Mazen had with the militants. It was he who provoked them into these latest stupid attacks. And it is Sharon who continues the never ending cycle of violence by ordering attacks on Palestinian political leaders. As I said before war criminal Sharon prefers the deaths of innocents, Palestinian and Israeli, than concede the only hope for peace; a two state solution. He seeks the final solution to the Arab problem, and the establishment of Greater Israel. He is a dangerous man.

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Is it possible that the British press only prints one side of the story or is it you who is blind to the truth. Who struck the first blow? Did you think for one moment that Israel would standby and not retaliate. The Militant Palestinian groups [controlled by Arafat] refuse to adopt a cease fire and are intent upon making sure there will be no peace in the mid east.

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Some more headlines/commentaries:

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You tried to assassinate Rantissi, and assassinated Abu Mazen. The rockets fired yesterday morning at Abdel-Aziz al-Rantissi's car were also aimed at Washington.

Headlines in Ma'ariv

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Abdel-Aziz al-Rantissi escaped death by the skin of his teeth. Although it failed, we will pay a heavy political price for this attempt, and it will bring back the suicide-bombers to our streets.

Commentator in Ma'ariv

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It may be impossible to clearly differentiate between a 'political' leader and an 'operational' one in organizations like Hamas, but it is doubtful that the attempted assassination on Rantissi falls into the category of dismantling a 'ticking bomb'... Israel's duty is to avoid actions that renew the cycle of escalating violence, and enable the new Palestinian leadership to make its mission a reality.

Editorial in Ha'aretz

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The attempt to assassinate Rantissi did not sabotage the political process because there is no political process.

Commentator in Yedi'ot Aharonot

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More than once the government and the general staff were accused last year of initiating 'targeted assassinations' on days when it seemed that a step, however small, was being made to bring about calm and peace. Yesterday, the government and the general staff proved that there is smoke and fire in this claim.

Editorial in Yedi'ot Aharonot

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There is one only thing that lies behind the strange, and in this case, wrong decision of the prime minister: miscalculation, a wrong assessment that the Americans will not respond.

Commentator in Yedi'ot Aharonot

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Like Bush, we too are deeply troubled by the attempt to take out a mass murderer of our fellow citizens. We are troubled because Rantissi has survived to continue with killings. We wish better luck in the future to the air force in carrying out missions of protecting Israeli citizens from the murderous likes of Rantissi.

Editorial in Jerusalem Post

Printing just one side of the story, as you said, au, and blind to the truth.

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au,

Isreal is NOT "retaliating" that attack was planned long before the Hamas murders and was posponed due to considerations over teh peace process. It seems those with the consideration lost.

The attack was spectacularly poor judgement and it gave Israel very very very bad PR for a number of reasons.

I will start a thread about this today. This is a perfect example of actions by Isreal that I see as intentional in disrupting peace agreements.

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It's not wrong when it doesn't kill innocent people. c.i.

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sigh...

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Quote:

It traps the process into a vicious cycle.

And so we have to ask again:
'Was this an action, which will be followed by a reaction or a reaction to a previous action?'

The results will be the same: more deaths on both sides.

I forgot to post this link earlier, but since it might be interesting to today's discussions in the USA ...
Bush: 'We have a problem with Sharon'

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Craven
Pages and posts have been disappearing all day. I will post something and go back to read and it is gone. The next time I go to the post it reappears. One time a posting has 15 pages the next time it has 12. One new post disappeared altogether. I assumed it was something you were working on along with the date and time.

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