Soldiers are saying - "Get us Outta Here!"

Nobody's acting offended, "Fedral". I don't care what you think. And what the f#$$ do you think we're talking about, if not solving the problem. Either in the short term or in the long term, we need to get the hell out of Iraq. And the baby wouldn't have drowned if not for your fearless president and his glorious plan.

And what the f#$$ do you think we're talking about, if not solving the problem.

I am anti war.

"The majority of Americans are for the war, you left wing, traitorous loony, you are out of step with America, and see, the nations of the world will join us".

Most nations haven't joined the war and are against it.

"The majority of Americans are for the war, you left wing, traitorous loony, you are out of step with America."


The majority of Americans do not support the war.


"You traitorous loony, the TROOPS support it, the left wing communist media are misleading you."


The troops want to come home."


"THEY ARE WRONG!"







It's like the torture....



"NO torture is happening, you traitor"


Yes it is.

"A few bad apples, you are denigrating the troops"


The torture orders are coming from the top.


"A FEW BAD APPLES, damn you"



See, here is the evidence it comes from the top.

"The subhuman bastards deserve it."

snood wrote:

Nobody's acting offended, "Fedral". I don't care what you think. And what the f#$$ do you think we're talking about, if not solving the problem. Either in the short term or in the long term, we need to get the hell out of Iraq. And the baby wouldn't have drowned if not for your fearless president and his glorious plan.

That's the problem, you are so sure that you are 100% right that you don't want to listen, nor do you care about any opinions other than your own.

You think you know me, but you do not, you think because I support the President, that I agree with everything he does. (Just FYI, I supported President Clinton as the representative of our country. I hated him, I didn't vote for him, I wished everyday that he was out of office, but I supported him as my President.) There is a difference between support and agreement.

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And what the f#$$ do you think we're talking about, if not solving the problem.

Nowhere in this thread did I see even ONE constructive post as to how to get us out without leaving behind utter anarchy.

All the postings were more of the same old 'We shouldn't be there', 'We need to leave', 'George Bush is to blame for everything'.

Not a decent solution to the problem, just more of the same.

Whether they do think that or not, and whatever the reason, they're wrong. The invasion was the only way to be certain that Saddam Hussein would not have access to doomsday weapons.

Yeah - I get it - broken record. But, what is the source of your signature quote?

Brandon9000 wrote:

Whether they do think that or not, and whatever the reason, they're wrong. The invasion was the only way to be certain that Saddam Hussein would not have access to doomsday weapons.

I think we need to invade Iraq again. Saddam could be building a nuke in his jail cell. There is ONLY one way to be certain after all. Right Brandon?

Brandon9000 wrote:

Whether they do think that or not, and whatever the reason, they're wrong. The invasion was the only way to be certain that Saddam Hussein would not have access to doomsday weapons.

What is the only way to be certain that Iran woun't have access to doomsday weapons?

Brandon9000 wrote:

Whether they do think that or not, and whatever the reason, they're wrong. The invasion was the only way to be certain that Saddam Hussein would not have access to doomsday weapons.

Even if we stipulate that we HAD to attack Iraq (and I do not), I was looking for a reaction to the events happening NOW. Soldiers wanting out - ...?

Ohhh! Uhhh! Uhhh! I know this one!!!
<< ebrown waves hand frantically>>

"We are installing Democracy..."
(or is the right answer "We can't let the terrorists win")

Brandon9000 wrote:

Whether they do think that or not, and whatever the reason, they're wrong. The invasion was the only way to be certain that Saddam Hussein would not have access to doomsday weapons.

Believing that is probably the only thing that keeps many Bush supporters sane.

Actually, Fedral, I think you will find that soldiers ALWAYS want to come home, but do NOT always think they should "get out of there".


I think of my uncle's letters from England during WW II, where he flew bombers over germany...especially the letter sent on D Day, as he waited to take off on what he obviously knew, as always, might be his last mission.


Sure, he wanted to come home, but he also clearly felt that what he was doing was worth the horror, and was deeply frustrated that others were flying while ha was still on the ground.

Brandon9000 wrote:

Whether they do think that or not, and whatever the reason, they're wrong. The invasion was the only way to be certain that Saddam Hussein would not have access to doomsday weapons.

dlowan wrote:

Actually, Fedral, I think you will find that soldiers ALWAYS want to come home, but do NOT always think they should "get out of there".


I think of my uncle's letters from England during WW II, where he flew bombers over germany...especially the letter sent on D Day, as he waited to take off on what he obviously knew, as always, might be his last mission.


Sure, he wanted to come home, but he also clearly felt that what he was doing was worth the horror, and was deeply frustrated that others were flying while ha was still on the ground.

Maybe its because the people and press at home weren't tearing the war effort down continuously, or finding allied conspiracies under every tree.

Brandon9000 wrote:

dlowan wrote:

Actually, Fedral, I think you will find that soldiers ALWAYS want to come home, but do NOT always think they should "get out of there".


I think of my uncle's letters from England during WW II, where he flew bombers over germany...especially the letter sent on D Day, as he waited to take off on what he obviously knew, as always, might be his last mission.


Sure, he wanted to come home, but he also clearly felt that what he was doing was worth the horror, and was deeply frustrated that others were flying while ha was still on the ground.

Maybe its because the people and press at home weren't tearing the war effort down continuously, or finding allied conspiracies under every tree.

Or maybe soldiers are capable of independent thought and decide for themselves?

and four out of five polled oppose the use of such banned weapons as napalm and phosphorus bombs, such as US forces employed in the assault on Fallujah in November 2004.

Snood, it is one interesting story, and I thought about posting it here too, but then I saw the poll was done by Zogby. Conservatives hate Zogby, so most of 'em wont even bother replying - too easy to blame the messenger. Like, "oh, Zogby <throw away gesture>"

Far too many in opposition to the war are STILL arguing about how we shouldn't have gotten into this war, I just want to scream.

"The children are drowning and YOU are still arguing as to who left the door to the pool open."

Face it folks, we are THERE. No amount of complaining is going to 'undo' what has happened. So instead of complaining about whether we should have invaded in the first place, try expending 1/10th of that effort into helping SOLVE the problem of getting out troops out without abandoning the Iraqis to anarchy.