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Why does God permit suffering?

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kevnmoon
 
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Reply Sat 11 Mar, 2006 02:39 am
You are completely right. Somebody riddled them. Also English is not my native language and lines r aid to my Master. Than I will choice very short or write very short with my English. I think will be better.
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neologist
 
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Reply Sat 11 Mar, 2006 08:14 am
What is your native language, kev?
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kevnmoon
 
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Reply Sat 11 Mar, 2006 05:41 pm
Turkish and also Ottoman.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 11 Mar, 2006 05:55 pm
Once you are able to replace "god" with "nature," you'll have a better grasp of life on this planet.
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kevnmoon
 
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Reply Sat 11 Mar, 2006 06:53 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Once you are able to replace "god" with "nature," you'll have a better grasp of life on this planet.

Dear Cicerone... one of the scholar says

''The imaginary and insubstantial thing that Naturalists call Nature, if it has an external reality, can at the very most be work of art; it cannot be the Artist. It is an embroidery, and cannot be the Embroiderer. It is a set of decrees; it cannot be the Issuer of the decrees. It is a body of the laws of creation, and cannot be the Lawgiver. It is but a created screen to the dignity of God, and cannot be the Creator. It is passive and created, and cannot be a Creative Maker. It is a law, not a power, and cannot possess power. It is the recipient, and cannot be the source.'' BSN
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 11 Mar, 2006 06:56 pm
kev, That's about the most confusing mumbo-jumbo I've read in a long while. Can you break it down into simple English?
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kevnmoon
 
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Reply Sat 11 Mar, 2006 07:01 pm
Nature is only law .. and can not do anything. It has no power. There is a lawyer called as a GOD.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 11 Mar, 2006 07:14 pm
Thank you. Nature just is. That lawyer called god deserves all the vitriolic jokes about lawyers - BTW.
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neologist
 
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Reply Sat 11 Mar, 2006 07:15 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
kev, That's about the most confusing mumbo-jumbo I've read in a long while. Can you break it down into simple English?
It's the design argument, C.I.

Good to have you around.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 11 Mar, 2006 07:17 pm
Thank you, neo. Will you be attending the Chicago gathering in May?
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kevnmoon
 
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Reply Sat 11 Mar, 2006 07:22 pm
Mr.Cicerone
Pls..Change lawyer word and put what you want..
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kevnmoon
 
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Reply Sat 11 Mar, 2006 07:25 pm
Dear Cicerone..
Pls.. you may change ''lawyer'' word.. and put other name..Thanks
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neologist
 
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Reply Sat 11 Mar, 2006 07:26 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Thank you, neo. Will you be attending the Chicago gathering in May?
Working towards it, but no definite plans.

I will be driving to San Deigo from Seattle in a week or so.


Coffee?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 11 Mar, 2006 07:30 pm
Let me know when you'll be close by; would like to share coffee or a meal. You can PM me or meet at a specific place and time. Let me know.
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neologist
 
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Reply Sat 11 Mar, 2006 07:45 pm
Gotcher email.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Sun 12 Mar, 2006 01:16 pm
Chumly wrote:
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:
.......because I cannot define God adequately, not even to myself, I dont tell other people about God
If you were to truly know the mind of god I would argue you would be the equivalent of a god. Which is why I find the verbiage some spout about god to be the height of anthropomorphic hubris.

Verbiage:
An excess of words for the purpose; wordiness.

Anthropomorphic:
Attribution of human motivation, characteristics, or behavior

Hubris
Overbearing pride or presumption; arrogance
yes agree define height

do you think I dont understand those words?
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Chumly
 
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Reply Wed 15 Mar, 2006 01:52 pm
By putting the meaning down, I intend no insult, I sometimes like to define my terms, allow me my modest idiosyncrasies.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Wed 15 Mar, 2006 02:02 pm
Chumly wrote:
By putting the meaning down, I intend no insult, I sometimes like to define my terms, allow me my modest idiosyncrasies.
yeah fair point chum

I think we are coming from a similar position. Probably feeling a bit grumpy the other night (I am getting old)
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golf97
 
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Reply Tue 21 Mar, 2006 09:03 pm
We're here to praise God. If He said "praise me" and made everyone praise him it'd be like squeezing a teddy bear that tells you it loves you. How much more does it mean when we go through trials and tribulations>
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Eorl
 
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Reply Tue 21 Mar, 2006 09:39 pm
golf97 wrote:
We're here to praise God.


Rubbish.
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