The government would have more money to spend on our military, if it didn't redistribute to those who have less, so much of the taxes it takes at a much greater tax rate from those who have more.
Yes, our military is also shamefully victimized by invidious liberal leaches who promote this kind of theft by government.
ican711nm wrote:The government would have more money to spend on our military, if it didn't redistribute to those who have less, so much of the taxes it takes at a much greater tax rate from those who have more.
Yes, our military is also shamefully victimized by invidious liberal leaches who promote this kind of theft by government.
You are a sick man, ican. You prefer spending our tax dollars supporting a war that kills thousands of innocent people over using that money to help our own people live better lives. Your head is all screwed up!
Maybe he just disagrees with you. That is possible - even for people whose heads aren't "screwed up".
Let's get this straight: Iraqis have less, but it's okay to spend money on them but not on Americans with our tax money. Yeah, makes alot of sense.
Perhaps he defines the problem and the issues differently than you do.
Now we're getting somewhere! :wink:
I think it in the interest of all Americans to help the Iraqis and Afghanistanis, who have not forfeited their rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness by denying those rights to others, to secure those rights until the Iraqis and Afghanistanis are able to secure those rights without our help.
I think it also in the interest of all Americans to help our fellow Americans, who have not forfeited their rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness by denying those rights to others, to secure those rights until we all are able to secure those rights without help.
I am opposed to our government denying any of our fellow law abiding Americans their rights no matter how much more or less they have than other Americans.
We are not the purveyors of democracy to the world with our military might.
cicerone imposter wrote:We are not the purveyors of democracy to the world with our military might.
You didnt say that when Clinton was bombing Kosovo into the stone age.
The American Conservative magazine (new edition), steadfast bulwark, remain unmollified. Top three articles...
http://www.amconmag.com/
Ican, I don't think they can handle your irony. In fact, I am having a bit of difficulty.
cicerone imposter wrote:We are not the purveyors of democracy to the world with our military might.
But that was indeed the central element in the policy of two eminent Democrat presidents of the last century who led us into great wars - Wilson and Roosevelt.
Do you include them in your repudiation?
georgeob, This is a completely different world today compared to the times of Wilson and Roosevelt. What's your point?
My point is that, with respect to your rather broad and undualified statements, the situations faced by Wilson and Roosevelt were entirrely analogous to those we face today, and that you have been levelling some sweeping criticisms that don't stand up to a little historical analysis, and which probably contradict other beliefs that you do hold. In short you are shooting from the hip and you missed.
georgeob1 wrote:My point is that, with respect to your rather broad and undualified statements, the situations faced by Wilson and Roosevelt were entirrely analogous to those we face today, and that you have been levelling some sweeping criticisms that don't stand up to a little historical analysis, and which probably contradict other beliefs that you do hold. In short you are shooting from the hip and you missed.
Entirely your personal opinion; let's hear from others before any conclusions are made.
georgeob1 wrote:My point is that, with respect to your rather broad and undualified statements, the situations faced by Wilson and Roosevelt were entirrely analogous to those we face today, and that you have been levelling some sweeping criticisms that don't stand up to a little historical analysis, and which probably contradict other beliefs that you do hold. In short you are shooting from the hip and you missed.
I've heard this line before, from Bush? Yup. And it wasn't any more accurate upon repetition. There was no 'world war' or true threat to America that necessitated our actions in Iraq - though Afghanistan got what was coming to them, for sure.
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cicerone imposter wrote:We are not the purveyors of democracy to the world with our military might.
We are what we choose to be.
Advocate wrote:Ican, I don't think they can handle your irony. In fact, I am having a bit of difficulty.
For good reason, I have faith in you overcoming your "bit of difficulty."
Success!
ican711nm wrote:cicerone imposter wrote:We are not the purveyors of democracy to the world with our military might.
We are what we choose to be.
No, we're not; Bush started this war on false pretenses, and most Americans now want out of Iraq. Bush have repeatedly said he doesn't follow polls, and he doesn't - even when his approval ratings have been in the skids. Americans do not believe in torture, and Bush authorizes it; the first president of our country to do so. FYI: It's against American values. You are completely ignorant of "We are what we choose to be." Most Muslims/Arabs now hate us, and we've lost many allies because of Bush. Wake up!
