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A first(?) thread on 2008: McCain,Giuliani & the Republicans

 
 
ican711nm
 
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Reply Sat 16 Feb, 2008 08:06 pm
blatham wrote:
Try to work it out.

Congratulations! That certainly is an original capitulation! Laughing
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Advocate
 
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Reply Sun 17 Feb, 2008 10:05 am
Republicans are adamant about their opposition to choice. I recently came upon the following.


"No woman can call herself free who does not own and control her body. No woman can call herself free until she can choose consciously whether she will or will not be a mother."
Margaret Sanger
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Sun 17 Feb, 2008 10:22 am
Republicans tend to be opposed to the killing of unborn children.

When did this become a thread to discuss the topic of abortion?
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sun 17 Feb, 2008 02:04 pm
Now!

A human fetus is not a fully formed human being until sometime after the 19th week.

I oppose abortion after conception. I also oppose federal and state laws forbidding abortion.
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Advocate
 
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Reply Sun 17 Feb, 2008 05:12 pm
Unborn children is oxymoronic.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 17 Feb, 2008 05:14 pm
Advocate wrote:
Unborn children is oxymoronic.


So true; especially at conception. It has no brains, no feelings, and feels no pain.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Sun 17 Feb, 2008 06:22 pm
Advocate wrote:
Unborn children is oxymoronic.


Based on that response, it sounds as if you are fully supportive of late term or third-trimester partial-birth abortions, even after the baby is "viable"? Up until the point the baby has fully breached the birth canal, you are in favor of allowing the mother to kill it?

Something's moronic, but it's not that phrase.
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maporsche
 
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Reply Sun 17 Feb, 2008 07:16 pm
McCain came out and said "no new taxes" during his term if he wins.

He's lost my vote.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Sun 17 Feb, 2008 08:06 pm
I guess he gained more votes than he lost with that. I suspect most people don't want their taxes going up.

Any particular reason you want yours increased?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 17 Feb, 2008 08:15 pm
It's not a matter of the middle class and poor's taxes being increased; it's about the rich paying more.

The rich don't need more tax breaks; we're fighting a war in Iraq and Afghanistan. Somebody has to pay for these wars, and increasing the federal deficit for later generations to pay is not only unfair, but dangerous for the long term economic security of this country.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Sun 17 Feb, 2008 08:22 pm
Do you have THIS BOOK on your night stand, c.i.?
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maporsche
 
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Reply Sun 17 Feb, 2008 08:29 pm
Ticomaya wrote:
I guess he gained more votes than he lost with that. I suspect most people don't want their taxes going up.

Any particular reason you want yours increased?


Well, not just my taxes, but everyone's taxes raised enough to cover our massive deficit and to pay for this war that 1/3 of the country wants to be in.
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blatham
 
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Reply Sun 17 Feb, 2008 08:37 pm
Ticomaya wrote:
I guess he gained more votes than he lost with that. I suspect most people don't want their taxes going up.

Any particular reason you want yours increased?


Dishonest response.
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nimh
 
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Reply Sun 17 Feb, 2008 08:39 pm
Ticomaya wrote:
Do you have THIS BOOK on your night stand, c.i.?

Yep - cause opposing more tax breaks for the rich obviously means you must be a marxist or communist or sumthin.. Rolling Eyes
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Sun 17 Feb, 2008 08:41 pm
You guys who have a lot of expendable money lying around should certainly send all your excess to the Federal government earmarked to pay down the deficit.

Please do not raise my taxes, however. I'm paying all I care to pay.

Please do not raise the taxes on the 'rich' either, as I simply can't afford it. Everytime you do that, the economy tanks for large segments of the society. We've just now gotten unemployment down to manageable levels. The current mortgage slump is cutting into the the otherwise solid economy here somewhat, but taxes had nothing to do with that and higher taxes would only exacerbate that.

Every credible source, including the national treasury, agrees that revenues from the 'rich' have substantially increased since the Bush tax policy went into effect. Why in the world does anybody think it makes sense to dry up that increased revenue with higher taxes?
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nimh
 
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Reply Sun 17 Feb, 2008 08:44 pm
Foxfyre wrote:
Please do not raise the taxes on the 'rich' either, as I simply can't afford it. Everytime you do that, the economy tanks for large segments of the society.

Right - like when Clinton raised the taxes on the rich in the 90s and the economy tanked for large segments of the society... umm, no that didnt actually happen, instead you subsequently had a half-decade of the largest economic growth in decades. But anyway, you were saying...
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sun 17 Feb, 2008 09:06 pm
nimh wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
Please do not raise the taxes on the 'rich' either, as I simply can't afford it. Everytime you do that, the economy tanks for large segments of the society.

Right - like when Clinton raised the taxes on the rich in the 90s and the economy tanked for large segments of the society... umm, no that didnt actually happen, instead you subsequently had a half-decade of the largest economic growth in decades. But anyway, you were saying...

Reagan decreased the income tax on the rich from 70% to 28%. The economy improved dramatically. In return for a promise by the Democrats to reduce spending, Reagan increased the income tax on the rich to 30%. The Democrats did not keep their promise. Bush41 agreed to increased the income tax on the rich to 35%. The economy nevertheless continued to improve but at a slower rate. Clinton increased the income tax on the rich to 39.5%. The economy nevertheless continued to improve while a budget surplus was generated. In Clinton's last year the economy started into a decline. Bush43 inherited that decline into a recession in his first term. But then Bush43, reduced the income tax rate on the rich to 33% and the economy began to improve dramatically.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Sun 17 Feb, 2008 10:12 pm
blatham wrote:
Ticomaya wrote:
I guess he gained more votes than he lost with that. I suspect most people don't want their taxes going up.

Any particular reason you want yours increased?


Dishonest response.


Bite me.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Sun 17 Feb, 2008 10:13 pm
maporsche wrote:
Ticomaya wrote:
I guess he gained more votes than he lost with that. I suspect most people don't want their taxes going up.

Any particular reason you want yours increased?


Well, not just my taxes, but everyone's taxes raised enough to cover our massive deficit and to pay for this war that 1/3 of the country wants to be in.


Okay, thanks. I appreciate your response.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Sun 17 Feb, 2008 10:16 pm
nimh wrote:
Ticomaya wrote:
Do you have THIS BOOK on your night stand, c.i.?

Yep - cause opposing more tax breaks for the rich obviously means you must be a marxist or communist or sumthin.. Rolling Eyes


Well I think a Marxist or communist would agree with that plan, don't you?

But c.i. might just be a leftist.
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