Thomas wrote:Excuse me for interrupting, and maybe this has come up before. But can someone point me to an informative and reasonably objective description of Mike Huckabee's record as governor of Arkansas? Now that he's a serious contender for the nomination, I find myself knowing to little about it.
This one is pretty good enumerating plusses, minuses, sins, and accomplishments re Mike Huckabee:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22365097/
Here's Camp Giuliani feigning self-confidence on the eve of the Iowa caucuses:
Source
And, hilariously, neocon radical John Podhoretz getting delusional:
Quote:The result in Iowa could not have been better for Giuliani tactically... With no one especially strong on the Republican side through the first few states, the Giuliani strategy of betting it all on Florida on January 29 and the big states on February 5 is looking better than it did a week ago.
Source
nimh wrote:OCCOM BILL wrote:Hmmmm. Maybe I'll go after Thompson nextÂ… :razz:
Why bother? :wink:
I didn't like him edging out McCain in the 11th hour, and was thinking a top 3 placement for McCain was more important than it appears it was. I'll back burner blasting him for now...
blatham wrote:nimh wrote:Hell, I'd vote for McCain over Hillary, I think, depending on how far right he'd be forced to go in the primaries. (Most likely, instead of choosing, I'd end up going for some third party if Hillary runs... Go Cobb.)
Noted.
You got me there. Didnt remember posting that. I must have been feeling particularly negative about her. When was that?
nimh wrote:blatham wrote:nimh wrote:Hell, I'd vote for McCain over Hillary, I think, depending on how far right he'd be forced to go in the primaries. (Most likely, instead of choosing, I'd end up going for some third party if Hillary runs... Go Cobb.)
Noted.
You got me there. Didnt remember posting that. I must have been feeling particularly negative about her. When was that?
Wed Mar 01, 2006.
OK, so it
wasnt me you'd seen saying he'd vote McCain over Hillary just the other day. It's a post from almost two years ago. <sigh of relief>
I've definitely come back on this one. I would not vote McCain over Hillary anymore. I've noted before that in the course of this campaign, my esteem for Obama has sunk considerably, and my esteem for Hillary has picked up a little, so they're pretty much equal in my mind now. (I've gone directly against the trend there I guess.) And yes, either would be better than any Republican, even McCain.
Back then, even I would have voted for McCain over Hillary without question; maybe even this time around.
cicerone imposter wrote:Back then, even I would have voted for McCain over Hillary without question; maybe even this time around.
And may I point out; C.I. has shown tremendous wisdom when it comes to assessing candidates. :wink:
nimh wrote:nimh wrote:blatham wrote:nimh wrote:Hell, I'd vote for McCain over Hillary, I think, depending on how far right he'd be forced to go in the primaries. (Most likely, instead of choosing, I'd end up going for some third party if Hillary runs... Go Cobb.)
Noted.
You got me there. Didnt remember posting that. I must have been feeling particularly negative about her. When was that?
Wed Mar 01, 2006.
OK, so it
wasnt me you'd seen saying he'd vote McCain over Hillary just the other day. It's a post from almost two years ago. <sigh>
I've definitely come back on this one. I would not vote McCain over Hillary anymore. I've noted before that in the course of this campaign, my esteem for Obama has sunk considerably, and my esteem for Hillary has picked up a little, so they're pretty much equal in my mind now. (I've gone directly against the trend there I guess.) And yes, either would be better than any Republican, even McCain.
jeez...I'm really confused now. Where the hell did I find this??? I thought I'd picked it up from this thread as a post you'd written minutes before! I didn't go hunting for it. It's the alzheimers. Or the drugs. Or the lady's underwear.
Garry Wills is a Professor of History Emeritus at Northwestern and and one of the foremost Catholic scholar/writers in the US. He's written a short essay in the NYRB on Romney's speech to leaders in the religious right, the speech that has been compared to JFK's address to the 'questions' surrounding his Catholicism. One bit I'll excerpt...
Quote:Kennedy had to convince people that he would not let the Vatican push him around. Romeny has let evangelicals know that he would let them push him around.
That's a fair charge.
Romney and JFK: The Difference
blatham wrote:jeez...I'm really confused now. Where the hell did I find this??? I thought I'd picked it up from this thread as a post you'd written minutes before! I didn't go hunting for it. It's the alzheimers. Or the drugs. Or the lady's underwear.
I dunno. I couldnt remember posting it, so I just pasted a sentence from teh quote into the Search field with nimh as author, and the only matching post is from March 2006.
One thing stood out in debate, perhaps I am not in step with New Hampshire, but McCain looks and talks like a great guy, a good ole boy, a good military man, but his senate career is what it is, but we need a new face to become the Republican nominee. McCain is past his prime.
Fox focus group thinks Romney hit a home run. I'm not as sure, he had his good moments, as did others, but going back to overall, they all have good points, but McCain especially, and also Thompson, are just a bit too old and battle worn. I will be interested to see if this affects the polls.
Also, last night, McCain was an attack dog, but perhaps it didn't work, and he backed off of Romney tonight.
I think Giuliani is toast, probably, but he had the best explanation of the slogan, "change.". And really, McCain just doesn't have it still, not quite. It has to boil down to Huckabee and Romney. And Thompson is just too relaxed and doesn't act like he is 100% engaged into winning. Probably too old too.
Any one of the five tonight far better than any Dem.
If McCain is too old, Romney is a flip-flopper and Mormon, Thompson is too worn out, and Rudy is toast, who's left?
Hucklebee and his FairTax plan.
You focus on the negatives, and the same for Democrats. One pundit pointed out how tired and haggard they all looked in the last debate. Hillary is an also ran, people are tired of the Clintons, and Edwards, what is he, some ambulance chaser that might not even be able to win office in his own state, and Obama, a nice guy with no experience talking about change, change to what, its nothing but a slogan as Giuliani rightly pointed out. There are lots of changes to America that I don't want. I happen to like lots of things about this country.
okie wrote:There are lots of changes to America that I don't want.
You have to realize that change is a rule. The world always changes. It cannot be stopped. Better learn to adjust and live with it. You may not want it or like it but you will have to accept it. All your bellowing and hollering will not prevent it. This country changes as the world changes. And the world is a far bigger and more powerful force than America.
Only a dictator can prevent change, temporarily.
Think this country needs one? Someone like you?
xingu wrote:okie wrote:There are lots of changes to America that I don't want.
You have to realize that change is a rule. The world always changes. It cannot be stopped. Better learn to adjust and live with it. You may not want it or like it but you will have to accept it. All your bellowing and hollering will not prevent it. This country changes as the world changes. And the world is a far bigger and more powerful force than America.
Only a dictator can prevent change, temporarily.
Think this country needs one? Someone like you?
But even you have to admit that not all changes are for the better.
mysteryman wrote:xingu wrote:okie wrote:There are lots of changes to America that I don't want.
You have to realize that change is a rule. The world always changes. It cannot be stopped. Better learn to adjust and live with it. You may not want it or like it but you will have to accept it. All your bellowing and hollering will not prevent it. This country changes as the world changes. And the world is a far bigger and more powerful force than America.
Only a dictator can prevent change, temporarily.
Think this country needs one? Someone like you?
But even you have to admit that not all changes are for the better.
Sure, and the sky is blue. There are no guarantees in life.
Have to take risks to make gains...
Cycloptichorn
