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Is this board anti-muslim?

 
 
Perplexed
 
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Reply Sun 5 Mar, 2006 02:51 pm
I'm always glad to teach, it's what I hope to do someday.
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Amigo
 
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Reply Sun 5 Mar, 2006 02:56 pm
There once lived a great warrior. Though quite old, he still was able to defeat any challenger. His reputation extended far and wide throughout the land and many students gathered to study under him.
One day an infamous young warrior arrived at the village. He was determined to be the first man to defeat the great master. Along with his strength, he had an uncanny ability to spot and exploit any weakness in an opponent. He would wait for his opponent to make the first move, thus revealing a weakness, and then would strike with merciless force and lightning speed. No one had ever lasted with him in a match beyond the first move.

Much against the advice of his concerned students, the old master gladly accepted the young warrior's challenge. As the two squared off for battle, the young warrior began to hurl insults at the old master. He threw dirt and spit in his face. For hours he verbally assaulted him with every curse and insult known to mankind. But the old warrior merely stood there motionless and calm. Finally, the young warrior exhausted himself. Knowing he was defeated, he left feeling shamed.

Somewhat disappointed that he did not fight the insolent youth, the students gathered around the old master and questioned him. "How could you endure such an indignity? How did you drive him away?"

"If someone comes to give you a gift and you do not receive it," the master replied, "to whom does the gift belong?"
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Perplexed
 
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Reply Sun 5 Mar, 2006 02:57 pm
Perplexed wrote:
I'm always glad to teach, it's what I hope to do someday.
oops lol, I got confused and put that in the wrong thread, sorry, ignore that!Razz
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Amigo
 
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Reply Sun 5 Mar, 2006 03:02 pm
I posted on the wrong thread too. I meant to put that on the story thread.
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Perplexed
 
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Reply Sun 5 Mar, 2006 03:03 pm
weird how we both did that at the same time.
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Amigo
 
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Reply Sun 5 Mar, 2006 03:07 pm
Yea Smile
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sun 5 Mar, 2006 03:10 pm
Actually, I think there's a reason that story showed up on this thread, Amigo. I got a lot out of it. Thanx!
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Amigo
 
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Reply Sun 5 Mar, 2006 03:12 pm
Divine intervention?

But whose god?
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Sun 5 Mar, 2006 03:12 pm
Can we share?
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sun 5 Mar, 2006 03:14 pm
Works for me.
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nimh
 
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Reply Sun 5 Mar, 2006 03:46 pm
Intrepid wrote:
Amazing.

This thread has had 3,961 views and 441 posts. Out of those numbers, we have 18 votes for yes and 19 votes for no.

What does that say?

Ya gotta keep in mind here that no of views Not Equal no of people. I for one must have clicked on this thread a couple of dozen times just to keep up.

If thats true in turn for dozens of posters - and if you also deduct search engine spiders and non-members who found this thread but aren't allowed to vote, then we might not even be talking hundreds of posters who've seen this thread, let alone thousands
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Sun 5 Mar, 2006 03:47 pm
Point well made and taken, nimh

I guess we also have to consider the number of posts that were actually on topic. Cool
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 5 Mar, 2006 04:00 pm
Did we establish if there are people who feel the board is anti-Muslim--and can we get a ruling on whether or not it is enough to use the word "towelhead" to be deemed anti-Muslim, no matter how you treat actual Muslims?

Is anti-Islam considered synonymous with anti-Muslim?

Is anti-religion considered anti-Muslim/anti-Christian....?

Maybe that will get the convo moving.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Sun 5 Mar, 2006 04:03 pm
If the word "towelhead" is used to describe a Muslim then it is anti Muslim

I would think that anti religion would be anti any religion whether it be Muslim, Christian, Jewish, Buddhist etc.
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Amigo
 
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Reply Sun 5 Mar, 2006 04:03 pm
Intrepid wrote:
Can we share?
No
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 5 Mar, 2006 04:06 pm
If the word is used to describe a terrorist? Isn't it anti-terrorist?

Muslims haven't cornered the market on large, towel-looking headwear.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 5 Mar, 2006 04:07 pm
Would people concur that anti-religion means anti-Muslim?

(Interesting)
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sun 5 Mar, 2006 04:14 pm
1a. I don't think we did establish whether it was or was not generally anti-muslim.

1b. IMO it is enough to be deemed anti-Muslim if you use the term towelhead when referring to Muslims but I think this would be better answered by a Muslim.

2. I think anti-Islam and anti-Muslim go pretty much hand in hand.

3. Anti-religion is considered anti-Muslim/anti-Christian if you use derogatory remarks when referring to them.
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nimh
 
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Reply Sun 5 Mar, 2006 04:30 pm
Lash wrote:
Is anti-Islam considered synonymous with anti-Muslim?

Is anti-religion considered anti-Muslim/anti-Christian....?

Maybe that will get the convo moving.

IMO, anti-religion = anti-Christian, anti-Muslim, etc.

Mind you, I can see the argument that it may be anti-Christianity and anti-Islam but that this does not simply equate with anti-Christian and anti-Muslim; one hates the religion, not the person who believes in it.

Apart from the way that kinda sounds like the "hate the sin, not the sinner" argument (which has always sounded particularly hypocritical to my ears), I would however argue that someone who is anti-religion may indeed not be a priori anti a person who happens to be Muslim or Christian, but that he IS by definition against the "Muslim" or "Christian" part of that person.

If one considers a religion evil, then one can hardly suddenly approve of a person believing it. That means that an anti-religion person might not necessarily hate Muhammed, but that he does by definition disapprove of Muhammed being Muslim, no?
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nimh
 
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Reply Sun 5 Mar, 2006 04:34 pm
Lash wrote:
Muslims haven't cornered the market on large, towel-looking headwear.

That might have been a reasonable argument if the word "towelhead" was indeed ever used to describe other people with towel-like gear on their head as well. As it stands, however, it is a label pretty much exclusively used to describe Muslims, and pejoratively so.
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