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Have You Ever Been Celibate?

 
 
Reply Thu 23 Feb, 2006 04:15 am
Most people, and that includes both men and women, are not used to being alone, wouldn't you agree? It was no different for me; I used to be the same way. However, because of having gone through an era of very painful challenges, I desperately needed to make a change. So I decided to back up, regroup, and do a lot of inner healing. As a result, I resolved to be on my own, unattached, on purpose. That meant saying "no" to dates.

It's funny how time goes by the way it does. As I forced myself to focus on other things, before I knew it, one year turned into another, and another, until one day 12 years had passed. Believe me, much physical self-control has gone into the endeavor.

It was only in the latter part of 2005 that I felt ready and brave enough to test the new waters, again, so to speak. But since I had obviously reverted back to being a "novice" in the game, I promptly ended up being stung by a Jellyfish before the gates even opened for the swimming race. Well, after that quick but non-experience, is when I decided to come to A2K in January of 2006, to explore a new way of making a wider variety friends.

What are your experiences with this? Am I the only one, here, living like a real nun (or priest)? Maybe that should have been my avatar. :wink:
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Green Witch
 
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Reply Thu 23 Feb, 2006 08:21 am
Who ever told you life is not full of heartbreak and tears? I've always had the philosophy that the best revenge for a bad relationship was to go out and find a better one and try again (and again). I've had bouts of drought, but 12 years is a heck of a long time.

I don't think anyone loves the dating life and most of us prefer to be in a loving, healthy relationship. Of course, it is much better to be alone than in rotten relationship. However, it's never to late to start again. My mother is in her early 70's, she was married to the wrong man for 40 years and finally dumped him. She is now in a involved with a wondeful man and having the time and love of her life. I don't think we should set age limits on when we can fall in love and be happy. I know dating can be torture, but it's how we meet new people and get to know them. If you continue to pick the wrong person you have to look at yourself and discover why you are attracted to those that do you wrong. There are plenty of good guys in the world, you just have to decide you deserve one.

Now dust yourself off and get back on that horse.
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PoetSeductress
 
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Reply Thu 23 Feb, 2006 08:41 am
Have You Ever Been Celibate?
Green Witch, I've alread hit the 50-ish number, although I certainly don't feel like it. I feel more like 34, actually. To some I'm old, to others, maybe not, but it all depends on what kind of shape you're in. I'd say I'm doing much better in that department, now, compared to before.

To me, age means nothing. It all depends on how you are, individually. There are some people who seem much older than their actual age. I try to keep myself young.

It isn't that I haven't had any opportunity, GW. I've just not accepted. But now, let me tell you, I'm almost at my true self, again. Your words mean a lot. Thank you.

Actually, I've had good luck with men, on the whole. Most of them have been great guys. But not the right ones. I've been divorced since 1987, been engaged twice, but was in no rush to marry. On the other hand, the last one was extremely abusive, and it was right after I'd lost my mother and my fiance at the same time, just a few days apart. Then other things too, that I won't go into, here. Suffice it to say, very negative people doing what they do best.

So I didn't have a "pattern" of anything. In fact, my pattern was not having a pattern of particular partners... a good variety, you could say. Smile

At any rate, inwardly, I am so very careful/cautious? Just because I flirt, it doesn't mean I'm actually doing anything, physically. I'll keep it in mind...
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Green Witch
 
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Reply Thu 23 Feb, 2006 09:02 am
Are you saying you want to remain celibate? I think a person can be perfectly happy in that state as long as they still have a sense of community, purpose and love. Even if you are having sex, those factors are crucial to our happiness. Many religious people are content in their celibacy if they are completed in other ways. They have it all but the sex. Is that what you want? If so, I don't think a cyber community is enough to bring contentment- you will still have to be with live people (not sexually) to feel whole. Am I understanding the question?
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PoetSeductress
 
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Reply Thu 23 Feb, 2006 09:11 am
Have You Ever Been Celibate?
No, Green Witch, I don't wish to remain without, anymore. I've come to terms with past issues, and I am well-adjusted. Those things just had to be settled first, and it took a long time to do it.

But things have a way of working out, on their own.
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material girl
 
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Reply Thu 23 Feb, 2006 09:12 am
I havnt even been kissed for 3 years so you can guess what else i havnt done.

I dont have any luck with men,I dont have opportunities to meet people.

Luckily my body has switched off to anything saucy, so restraint is necessary, but in my mind I do recall it to be a very nice way to spend time.
Its not the physicality of it but the added association of knowing that someone likes me/finds me attractive/wants to spend time with me.
Knowing that nobody wants to do that with me makes me feel the most unnatractive person in the world which leads to me looking depressed which really doesnt help when trying to look attractive.

Maybe I am attractive, I dont know, I havnt met anyone knew for years so I dont know how guys see me.

Im not celibate by any means, I just dont know where to go to find somebody decent enough to get together with.

Poetseductress, you dont sound celibate to me, just you get on with other things and maybe find a mate, but until then you just get on with life, like im doing.

Id like to have a boyfriend just so I can work out if its that that Im missing in life.
All my friends have partners(except one who split up with her beau just before Christmas)they are happy and are having a fulfilled life.

I feel like an empty, ugly husk, not even a women.
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material girl
 
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Reply Thu 23 Feb, 2006 09:14 am
Meant to read

material girl wrote:


Luckily my body has switched off to anything saucy, so restraint ISNT necessary.
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Green Witch
 
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Reply Thu 23 Feb, 2006 09:18 am
Material Girl - I don't want to hijack PS's thread, but your last line is very telling. I think you need to take control of the situation. Don't they have a Match.com in the UK? Join and at least start dating, anything in the way of action is better than nothing.
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PoetSeductress
 
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Reply Thu 23 Feb, 2006 09:18 am
Have You Ever Been Celibate?
It was by CHOICE, material girl. Believe me, I did not have a problem with getting men, or find good ones. It's just when I lost my mother and my fiance at the same time, certain other people ascended like viscious vultures (like relatives will do when someone passes). Afterward was when I linked up with the mean fellow who abused me.

So you see, I just needed a vacation to gather myself back, again. But it just took a very long time to heal, that's all. Now I'm healed. And I am so very much ready to really live fully, again.

As for yourself, girl, you need to see yourself as you would like to be, then you will naturally unfold into it, with just a little extra work and imagination. Educate yourself! If you don't like yourself as you are, you can change... enhance... develop... evolve... and bring forth the beautiful best that's within you.
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material girl
 
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Reply Thu 23 Feb, 2006 09:24 am
Good for you PS, sorry all that happened to you.It took a long time but now I hope you have the life you want.

GW,a friend (who met his gf at work)suggested a dating site but I want the thrill of the chase, meeting someone in an unexpected place.
Not ,man sits+woman sits+chat in artificial environment=work out if they fancy each other.
Its kind of mechanical.

Guess im just picky and only Im to blame.

PS, do you have ways of meeting people?
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PoetSeductress
 
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Reply Thu 23 Feb, 2006 09:28 am
Have You Ever Been Celibate?
Green Witch wrote:
Material Girl - I don't want to hijack PS's thread, but your last line is very telling. I think you need to take control of the situation. Don't they have a Match.com in the UK? Join and at least start dating, anything in the way of action is better than nothing.


Anything you want to do here, Green Witch is fine with me. Smile
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PoetSeductress
 
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Reply Thu 23 Feb, 2006 09:38 am
Have You Ever Been Celibate?
material girl wrote:
PS, do you have ways of meeting people?


Actually, no, not at this time. I'm self-employed, but work 7 days a week as a live-in private home health care provider for an elderly lady. I have to be with her all the time, with only a few hours here and there, to take care of my personal business. So as you can see, even if I wanted a social life, I couldn't have one, right now, which is why I visit A2K so often.

The good news is, I've just begun a course in real estate investment, so that I can change my line of work. I don't want to do home health, anymore, but I don't want to go out and look for another job! I'm in no position to do that. Rather, I'm looking forward to what I'm working toward in my studies.

This lifestyle is quite different, and very challenging, to say the least. Not just anyone can do this kind of work, and there are very few who are trustworthy to do it.
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Heeven
 
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Reply Thu 23 Feb, 2006 09:43 am
PoetSeductress, it sounds to me like you found yourself in those 12 years - a very satisfactory outcome if I may say so.

I think your step to come here and 'socialize' with us on the net is a good one. Excellent practice for real life interaction and great to view lots of opinions, comraderie and pick up new things you might like to try. I am sure you are like most everyone else who needs a partnership, a togetherness that no other relationship can be, other than a couple. I am going to say it and I don't care who hears - loving someone does not HAVE TO include sex, g-strings, bjs, and all the things that everyone else in the whole wide world seems to be doing. Don't get me wrong, sex is good (I like it a lot) but I have gone, during periods of my life, without it. (Disclaimer: I suck at relationships, so not really sure my advice is a keeper).

That being said, where does it say you have to sleep with a man you just started dating three weeks ago? Yes I know there are unspoken rules on dating - calling after a date, getting it on after a couple of dates, etc., etc. Throw those rules out the window if you're not comfortable with them. If you meet a man you want to see again, don't get all anxious and concerned he will dump you if you don't sleep with him by date three. Tell him up-front, you are a secure and confident woman who does not take sexual intimacy lightly and when you are at the point of wanting to progress to that stage with a man you love you will let him know it no matter if it takes months, years, whatever. If it is meant to be, it will be. The quick-fix guys will shoo off right away <dust off your hands>, the more interesting men will hang around.
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material girl
 
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Reply Thu 23 Feb, 2006 09:49 am
Well said Heeven.

PS, as I said, my friends are attatched so we dont socialise anymore, hence i cant meet people.

This course you are on is it one that you go to or is it an online thing, ie will you get to meet people through the course?

Im hopefully doing a course soon so should meet people there.

You sound like a nice person to be doing home help, there arnt many like you around.

If it wasnt for this forum I think Id go loopy.
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PoetSeductress
 
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Reply Thu 23 Feb, 2006 09:51 am
Have You Ever Been Celibate?
Heeven wrote:
PoetSeductress, it sounds to me like you found yourself in those 12 years - a very satisfactory outcome if I may say so. Thank you, sweetly.

I think your step to come here and 'socialize' with us on the net is a good one. Excellent practice for real life interaction and great to view lots of opinions, comraderie and pick up new things you might like to try. I am sure you are like most everyone else who needs a partnership, a togetherness that no other relationship can be, other than a couple. I am going to say it and I don't care who hears - loving someone does not HAVE TO include sex, g-strings, bjs, and all the things that everyone else in the whole wide world seems to be doing. Don't get me wrong, sex is good (I like it a lot) but I have gone, during periods of my life, without it. (Disclaimer: I suck at relationships, so not really sure my advice is a keeper).

That being said, where does it say you have to sleep with a man you just started dating three weeks ago? I didn't say that, Heeven. It was several months ago, before I came to A2K. Yes I know there are unspoken rules on dating - calling after a date, getting it on after a couple of dates, etc., etc. Throw those rules out the window if you're not comfortable with them. If you meet a man you want to see again, don't get all anxious and concerned he will dump you if you don't sleep with him by date three. I don't have a problem with that. Things have always happened naturally, in their own time, in that respect... sometimes sooner, sometimes later. Tell him up-front, you are a secure and confident woman who does not take sexual intimacy lightly and when you are at the point of wanting to progress to that stage with a man you love you will let him know it no matter if it takes months, years, whatever. If it is meant to be, it will be. The quick-fix guys will shoo off right away <dust off your hands>, the more interesting men will hang around.


You're very nice, Heeven, but really, those things aren't a problem for me. I've had rich experiences, and plenty of them. Sure, there were a few jerks, but most had good sense about them. Smile
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PoetSeductress
 
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Reply Thu 23 Feb, 2006 10:07 am
Have You Ever Been Celibate?
material girl wrote:
Well said Heeven. Such an adorable avatar!
PS, as I said, my friends are attatched so we dont socialise anymore, hence i cant meet people.

This course you are on is it one that you go to or is it an online thing, ie will you get to meet people through the course?

It's a home-study course, more economical, convenient, and beneficial, since I can go at my own pace.

Im hopefully doing a course soon so should meet people there. That's great to hear!

You sound like a nice person to be doing home help, there arnt many like you around. ((hug))

If it wasnt for this forum I think Id go loopy. Razz AGREED.
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PoetSeductress
 
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Reply Thu 23 Feb, 2006 10:25 am
Have You Ever Been Celibate?
I really didn't want for this to be all about me. I was more interested in the experiences of others. *But* maybe more will share, later. :wink:
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onthequiet
 
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Reply Thu 23 Feb, 2006 04:24 pm
MG ... im with ya in a way mate , my prob many years ago was a bit of a weight thing , not big but just uncomfortable so saw myself as ugly and was always the quiet 1 as i didnt want to bring attention to myself in a group so did a 360 degree turn , cleaned myself up ( fake tan , bit of walking , change of diet ) and felt allot more confident and must say have gone from a hermit who used to leave the party early to the life of the party even though im most probably still ugly to most but atleast now i have confidence ... lol .

Just dont settle into that comfort zone of accepting it and do something bout it , confidence in yourself brings a MAJOR advantage to everything in everyday life .

PS ... Im not implying you have a weight problem , this was just my situation .
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flushd
 
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Reply Thu 23 Feb, 2006 07:21 pm
Hey Poet.

I chose celibacy for a period of time, but I didn't call it that, I just called it a "sex and romantic-relationship vacation". I needed it to focus on simply myself, and to get in touch with my real desires/values. I'm thinking I may do it again, for a while, bc I am 'on-the-break' with a great guy. The only reason things are topsy-turvy is bc of me, and I know it.

I used to work in homecare, and actually still do work in a situation that is similiar (NOT going to meet anyone at work). I never found that a problem as far as meeting men or having relationships. I think when something is a priority for you, you find ways to do it, no matter what. Just saying....there really is no reason your situation would exclude you from meeting people and all that. There are a million and one ways to reach people and interact.

One thing I noticed after my 'vacation' is that I was willing to wait for the right situations better, I was better able to get across my needs, more able to share, and better able to appreciate the little things, and to live in real time (as opposed to fantasy-time or trying to force things). I realized there really is no need to have sex, except bc I want to and as a caring experience, and that I don't need it to be happy and whole.
You see, I used to be quite promiscuious and 'crazy' (by my own defintion).
A break from it all was necessary to heal.

Lots of luck and love your way. I know you'll find a way to 'jump back in the pool' and have lots of fun doing it.

And it's nice to meet you and have you here at A2K! Smile
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Chumly
 
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Reply Fri 24 Feb, 2006 12:42 am
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