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Passage ...... Where do you go after you die

 
 
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jun, 2003 09:31 am
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Gelisgesti wrote:
Shouldn't you be out playing golf!


Already played. Started at 6:08 -- and finished at about 9:45.

Shot an 89 -- and was not pleased with the way I hit the ball.


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OK, you answered the tough one ....... now, will these thoughts be around after we are gone?

P.S. nothing religious about this one


Who knows???

Not moi!
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Gelisgesti
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jun, 2003 09:59 am
Was this the only mulligan Wink
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jun, 2003 10:08 am
Frank, Even Tiger has bad days. Don't feel too bad. Wink c.i.
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Terry
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jun, 2003 10:36 pm
Gelisgesti wrote:
Will these thoughts cease to exist after we die?


It is comforting to think that we will enter a new phase of existence and growth. But it appears that thoughts and self-awareness are generated by the brain, and a loss of brain function means the loss of both.

The only certain way to immortalize your thoughts is to permanently record them or become famous enough that they will be passed on to future generations.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jun, 2003 10:43 pm
Terry, I'm willing to record some personal records, but it will be a waste of time. Most in my family do not care for geneology. As for famous, I've never even considered such a high-felut'n thing in my life! I'm a very simple guy with simple needs and expectations. That's enough for me. c.i.
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Gelisgesti
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jun, 2003 02:39 am
Morning Terry, always good to read your face.You seem to have a feel for my thoughts, and that in it's self is encouraging. Could you address the part of us that stands between the understanding of speech, not so much the translation of say 'Farsi' to 'English' or the dilemma of a dog named 'stay', ..... is there inherited knowledge I think would be the gist of my question.
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Terry
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jun, 2003 07:38 am
c.i., you've already achieved a degree of fame by posting here and on Abuzz, and even though your immediate family may not seem interested in your memoirs, future generations may be. Very Happy Anne Frank probably never expected her diary to be read by anyone.


Hi Doug, yes, we inherit some instinctive knowledge such as infants smiling and babbling in response to speech, fear of snakes and avoidance of bitter tasting plants, but I think that cultural memories (archetypes, for instance) are learned, not inherited.

Studies done on "wild children" show that although there is an innate ability to learn language, if they are not exposed to speech by a certain age they can learn new words but will never be fluent.
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jun, 2003 08:36 am
Terry wrote:

Studies done on "wild children" show that although there is an innate ability to learn language, if they are not exposed to speech by a certain age they can learn new words but will never be fluent.


Hi Terry,

The number of truely "wild" children ever tested, is such a small portion of the population, and there is so much variation in human abilities, can we really assume that all people will exhibit the same abilities (or lack thereof) that these particular individuals did?

From general observation it seems that people have very variable abilities to learn and use language. it's quite possible that a small percentage of the population retains the ability to acquire language throughout life, and that these individuals have simply never been tested due to the small sample size of "wild" children.

R.
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jun, 2003 02:24 pm
truth
Rosborne, I don't seem to be able to post my messages. Before I try to rewrite my last to you, I'll see if this comes through.
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jun, 2003 05:32 pm
truth
Well, I tried and again it failed. It seems that only very short posts pass.
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Gelisgesti
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jun, 2003 06:33 pm
kozmic censury Smile
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jun, 2003 06:42 pm
Here's some 'sensory.' c.i.
***************

Begin forwarded message:


>
> While I was "flying" down the road yesterday (i.e., 10 mph over the limit), I passed over a bridge only to find a cop with a radar gun on the other side laying in wait.
>
> The cop pulled me over, walked up to the car, and with that classic patronizing smirk we all know and love, asked, "What's your hurry?"
>
> To which I replied, "I'm late for work."
>
> "Oh yeah," said the cop, "what do you do?"
>
> " I'm a rectum stretcher," I responded.
>
> "The cop stammered, "A what? A rectum stretcher? And just what does a rectum stretcher do?"
>
> "Well," I said, "I start by inserting one finger, then I work my way up to two fingers, then three, then four, then with my whole hand in I work side to side until I can get both hands in, and then I slowly but surely stretch, until it's about 6 foot wide."
>
> "And just what the hell do you do with a 6 foot asshole?"
>
> To which I politely replied, "You give him a radar gun and park him behind a bridge...."
>
>
> Traffic Ticket: $95.00 Court Costs: $45.00 The Look on that Cop's Face:
>
> PRICELESS!!!
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jun, 2003 11:04 pm
humor
C.I., I don't believe you, but Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Gelisgesti
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jun, 2003 03:51 am
?
It can be agreed that we as species inherit 'base' senses.

What separates us from ' Dionaea muscipula'?
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Terry
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jun, 2003 08:26 am
rosbourne, good point. Perhaps children who became "wild" lacked some social ability and were therefore more prone to abandonment by their parents and other people.


Doug, several hundred million years of evolution separate us from Venus fly traps. They have no brain, no free will, and IMO no souls. They don't trap and kill flies out of malice, but as a mindless reflex. I doubt if they are any more consciously aware of what they do than a mouse trap.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jun, 2003 09:04 am
Terry, In other words, brainless.
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jun, 2003 03:38 pm
truth
Good speculation, Terry. It IS possible that in SOME cases (who knows how many?) feral kids were castoffs because of preexisting mental deficiencies. And it is also possible, as Rozborne suggested, that the test results for feral children may fall within the range of variation for non-feral kids. Has that been determined?
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jun, 2003 04:57 pm
Re: ?
Gelisgesti wrote:
It can be agreed that we as species inherit 'base' senses.

What separates us from ' Dionaea muscipula'?


car keys
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Gelisgesti
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jun, 2003 07:01 pm
Set, are you sure you aren't thinking of the rock group 'The Clap'?
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Terry
 
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Reply Tue 1 Jul, 2003 01:40 am
JLN, it's hard to determine whether mental deficiencies were preexisting or the result of deprivation. See the FAQ at Feral Children
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