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Passage ...... Where do you go after you die

 
 
Gelisgesti
 
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Reply Sun 21 May, 2006 11:27 pm
Kara wrote:
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I find it untenable to believe that the old man is the product of a baby. Life is more mysterious than that ...


Ge, why do you find that hard to believe? Man is an animal, and we are born, age, and die. Do you mean that the essence, the learned and stored wisdom, of the old man could not have come from the baby? A fertilized and implanted egg has the potential to become that baby and then that old man.

Kipling wrote:

They will come back.
Come back again.
As long as the red Earth rolls,
He never wasted a leaf or a tree.
Do you think He would squander souls?

Now, that's what is mysterious and wonderful to contemplate.


I apologize, I omitted one word ... my quote should read 'I find it untenable to believe that the old man is the '''only''' product of a baby. Life is more mysterious than that' ...
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babsatamelia
 
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Reply Sun 21 May, 2006 11:41 pm
Hello to you again CI, nice to "see" you again. Yes, I watched and simply adored a movie about Frida's life. After a trolley accident as a young girl she had so many operations trying to fix her spine and her leg that her life was like an endless nightmare of pain. Her endless time in bed, in body casts was spent painting on and on. Then she met Diego Rivera, who was not only a revolutionist but also a great painter in Mexico, whose art work already was recognized at that time. Frida wanted him to tell her if her work was any good so she showed him her work. They fell in love and they married, he was completely & totally incapable of being faithful & she tolerated it until he slept with her sister. They divorced & years later remarried. Meanwhile, Frida had a great run of successful art exhibits all over Europe which seems to be what it takes to be recognized in one's own country. By the time her work was on solo exhibition in Mexico her doctor forbade her to leave her bed, for fear of her dying, she was so very, very sick. So Frida had people help her to dress and carry her to her own art exhibit in her bed. She arrived at the solo exhibit in her honor, in the bed, while Diego is somberly talking about what a great artist Frida is. She shows up shouting I'm not dead yet, where is the music, where is the tequila (they drink an awful lot in Mexico, I think it is the only pain killer they can easily afford) Toward the end only morphine can ease her pain, and she told Diego that when she died, he should "burn this traitorous body of mine." It was the very last entry in her diary that the quote comes from. I really love it too. In fact the very moment I saw it, I had such tears in my eyes because I knew how she felt, what she meant, what it was like to live a life imprisoned in a body that caused her so much pain that even with all the beauty and joys of this world one can not help but beg for release just as a once wild bird begs to be free of it's cage. I am so glad that you enjoyed it too.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 22 May, 2006 04:49 am
Babs, I had no idea you were in such a state of poor health. I am more than sympathetic; I have much the same dilemma in my life. I won't offer up more information than that just now. But, I have spoken with a retired nurse, who told me a self treated patient is ultimately a dead one. In the same conversation, she admitted that chemo usually does more to harm than help lots of patients. I have opted for self treatment.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 22 May, 2006 09:13 am
babs, Thank you for sharing the life of Kahlo. I didn't know she had any connection/relationship to the famous artist Rivera. I remember seeing a mural by Rivera at our hotel in Mexico City on our honeymoon - and that was over 40 years ago. Although I have come across Kahlo's paintings and pictures, I just ignored them - not knowing about her painful life. You have shown my the "other side" of who Kahlo was, and I thank you for that! From now on, I'll have more interest when I see Kahlo.
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Chumly
 
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Reply Mon 22 May, 2006 11:32 am
I'm so sorry to hear about my fellow poster's heath issues.
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meL999
 
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Reply Wed 24 May, 2006 12:03 am
no death
death is a filthy word, an idea.

you have no way to experiance cadaver state.

the holy busine$$ takes advantage of that idea.
the holy wars continue.

The ultimate observer does NOT SEE *death.

the Simplicity of the ultimate observer ends THAT misery.

Please ignor all of my previous post here.

Edit [Moderator]: Link removed
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meL999
 
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Reply Thu 25 May, 2006 08:55 am
this is the text of the website link removed
Edit: Moderator: Links removed

The above website and links is the best IDEA-BASED(knowledge)
stuff i have seen so far. My web page here is based on SEEING.
i welcome all blast from anyone :-O

Read this poster ten times.
All truth comes from outside...get past the contradiction.

Sit for days in silence...it might only take 5 seconds.



BEGIN
Look in a mirror on the wall and just SEE a person, NOT yourSELF!
When i say SEE, i mean SEE with your eyes. You wont faint :-)
i dont know how the blind person will do it.

You will also SEE that the surround moves past You,
NOT you moving through the surround!
END


Then, go and have an extra-ordinary Life without
a miserySELF. You wont reject anything, not even magic.
God appears in the surround...is the surround.

Be in silence 24/7. There cant be any psychological hurting
in THAT state.
Clinical depression/problems are a different matter
and professional help is recommended.

This is the end of the misery-self.
One finds that they are in heaven...there is no death.
Two people can stand in front of the mirror. ho ho ho
There is only ONE ultimate observer.
Compassion just comes from the vast capacity of the brain.
Dont make a fuss over THAT.
Boredom is not a feature of being AWAKE.
You will understand raw anger and frustration.
No holy business can come out of THIS.
THIS is not about bliss...no meditation books
can come out of THIS. THIS is free.

This is the salvation of man by insaneMEL.
He got it from JC, JK, UG, many others.
Whatever occasional or plentiful bliss comes of THIS is personal.
Dont kill a person in THIS state...they are harmless :-O
Humility kicks in.
You bastards can sell this poster. ho ho ho
FINISHED

Does the poster
explain everything all at once?

Also, does UG then JK then lead to
the real Jesus?
i believe THAT is useful.



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Look around at these sites........they are useless.
http://mentalhelp.net/psyhelp/chap6/chap6s.htm#a ....useless..
http://umsonline.org/ ....complexity fails..some fun entertainment..
http://www.messiahrevealed.org/ ....lies about the real JC..

THAT stuff can only intensify hurting/misery.
THAT stuff MAINTAINS the momentum of hurting/misery.
THAT stuff promotes deferral for the sake of holy business
or selling books.

i wont accept a penny for this.
Selling salvation in any way ALWAYS FAILS.
Selling meditation-techniques/enlightenment ALWAYS FAILS.
google UG Krishnamurti....He was the best modern activation of a Christ...
The real Jesus is exposed at Edit: Moderator: Link removed
GOOD, i dont have to go through all THAT :-)

my website is NOT COPYRIGHT
PLEASE DONT SCREW MY WORDS UP....LET ME DO THAT....HO HO HO
MY WEBSITE IS NOT BASED ON KNOWLEDGE
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