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Experts Claim Official 9-11 Story is a Hoax ! FINALLY!

 
 
Magginkat
 
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Reply Tue 31 Jan, 2006 09:36 pm
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TICO: So my question is, what's with your attempt to lend this spurious press release legitimacy by attaching the news.yahoo.com link, to make it appear as if this was a story put out by a legitimate news wire?



Spurious press release? Attaching a Yahoo news link? Legitimate news wire?

How does it feel to eat your own words Tico? I don't make up news links or news stories, ever. You may not like me or what I have to say but by damn you will never find me doing the despicable things you accuse me of. Just because you surround yourself with people that do these things does not mean that people who oppose you would do likewise.

We don't have to. Bush and his idiots hand this crap to us day in and day out.

So why don't you get down off your holier than thou, high horse and stick it where the sun don't shine?
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 31 Jan, 2006 09:53 pm
ah ah ahhh, TOC's dont allow the
1 Unescorted directions given to proceed up ones anus is definately right out.
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Magginkat
 
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Reply Tue 31 Jan, 2006 09:55 pm
farmerman wrote:
ah ah ahhh, TOC's dont allow the
1 Unescorted directions given to proceed up ones anus is definately right out.



Please do not put your words in my mouth. I have not mentioned anyone's anus. You did that.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Tue 31 Jan, 2006 09:58 pm
Re: Experts Claim Official 9-11 Story is a Hoax ! FINALLY!
Magginkat wrote:
Gosh Tico,

As the self-proclaimed genuis of A2K I thought you would be able to find the story without me holding your hand and guiding you..
But just for your poor helpless souls is a Tiny URL version for you.

http://tinyurl.com/a73v8


"Self-proclaimed genuis (sic) of A2K"? Huh? Where did you come up with that load?

You believed I would be able to find the story, so you didn't think you needed to supply a correct link? Fine, but what about the other, less-than-genuis (sic) of A2K? What were they to do? Flounder about blindly?

Thanks for posting a link to the news.yahoo.com article, where they obviously just grabbed the press release from PRWeb. Enlightening. Just goes to show you can't believe everything on news.yahoo is a legitimate news story ... they're in the press release business too.
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nimh
 
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Reply Tue 31 Jan, 2006 10:02 pm
Magginkat wrote:
farmerman wrote:
ah ah ahhh, TOC's dont allow the
1 Unescorted directions given to proceed up ones anus is definately right out.

Please do not put your words in my mouth. I have not mentioned anyone's anus. You did that.

So with "where the sun dont shine" you were referring to what, exactly?
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Magginkat
 
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Reply Tue 31 Jan, 2006 10:03 pm
Re: Experts Claim Official 9-11 Story is a Hoax ! FINALLY!
Ticomaya wrote:
Magginkat wrote:
Gosh Tico,

As the self-proclaimed genuis of A2K I thought you would be able to find the story without me holding your hand and guiding you..
But just for your poor helpless souls is a Tiny URL version for you.

http://tinyurl.com/a73v8


"Self-proclaimed genuis (sic) of A2K"? Huh? Where did you come up with that load?

You believed I would be able to find the story, so you didn't think you needed to supply a correct link? Fine, but what about the other, less-than-genuis (sic) of A2K? What were they to do? Flounder about blindly?

Thanks for posting a link to the news.yahoo.com article, where they obviously just grabbed the press release from PRWeb. Enlightening. Just goes to show you can't believe everything on news.yahoo is a legitimate news story ... they're in the press release business too.



Floundering ...... Yep, that's a good word for what you just posted. Anything to avoid admitting that you were wrong.

Self-proclaimed genius comes from the ever present, holier than thou attitude
.
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Magginkat
 
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Reply Tue 31 Jan, 2006 10:05 pm
nimh wrote:
Magginkat wrote:
farmerman wrote:
ah ah ahhh, TOC's dont allow the
1 Unescorted directions given to proceed up ones anus is definately right out.

Please do not put your words in my mouth. I have not mentioned anyone's anus. You did that.

So with "where the sun dont shine" you were referring to what, exactly?



Where ever you want it to be, so long as you don't accuse me of naming specific spots. I refuse to take credit for someone else's mind and where it chooses to wander.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Tue 31 Jan, 2006 10:08 pm
Re: Experts Claim Official 9-11 Story is a Hoax ! FINALLY!
Magginkat wrote:
Self-proclaimed genius comes from the ever present, holier than thou attitude.


I have an opinion about your level of intelligence too. And the above-remarks serves only to cement it.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Tue 31 Jan, 2006 10:25 pm
Just popping in to add my thanks to Nimh's to Farmerman and Tico for taking the time to provide factual evidence. I'm generally 99% sure the hyper-partisan nonsense is just that, but never the less appreciate it when someone goes to the trouble to fill in the other 1%. It's nice to be certain, and equally amazing at how some choose to remain ignorant despite the now readily available facts at hand.
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Magginkat
 
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Reply Tue 31 Jan, 2006 10:49 pm
Those last two posts give credibility to my earlier comment that any time a Republican/Conservative tries to describe a Democrat/Liberal, or anyone who opposes him, he always.........ALWAYS describes himself.

I do have to agree with Bill's comment, "equally amazing at how some choose to remain ignorant despite the now readily available facts at hand".


How do you manage to do that?
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nimh
 
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Reply Tue 31 Jan, 2006 11:00 pm
Magginkat wrote:
Those last two posts give credibility to my earlier comment that any time a Republican/Conservative tries to describe a Democrat/Liberal, or anyone who opposes him, he always.........ALWAYS describes himself.

I do have to agree with Bill's comment, "equally amazing at how some choose to remain ignorant despite the now readily available facts at hand".

How do you manage to do that?

You can leave off the Republican/Conservative vs Democrat/Liberal stuff in this context, too.

Farmerman and meself, for one, are hardly conservatives - we're on the other hand of the spectrum. Yet we share Bill's frown on this all-too easily debunked conspiracy theory stuff and the folks who buy into it.
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Magginkat
 
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Reply Tue 31 Jan, 2006 11:20 pm
nimh wrote:
Magginkat wrote:
Those last two posts give credibility to my earlier comment that any time a Republican/Conservative tries to describe a Democrat/Liberal, or anyone who opposes him, he always.........ALWAYS describes himself.

I do have to agree with Bill's comment, "equally amazing at how some choose to remain ignorant despite the now readily available facts at hand".

How do you manage to do that?

You can leave off the Republican/Conservative vs Democrat/Liberal stuff in this context, too.

Farmerman and meself, for one, are hardly conservatives - we're on the other hand of the spectrum. Yet we share Bill's frown on this all-too easily debunked conspiracy theory stuff and the folks who buy into it.



I don't recall reading any place that I had to write something that was pleasing and in lockstep with what you, Farmerman or anyone else believes.

I don't know you Nimh but I don't think I need you or anyone else to tell me what to leave out. You may not agree with it but you have no right to tell me that I cannot write it.

I do not see where anyone has debunked anything. All I see is 'just because you say so'. Sorry. I believe what I believe and I happen to believe, as these scholars do, that there are way too many unanswered questions, not the least is the one that asks why this administration tried it's best to not have any investigation at all.

I do not believe for a minute that on 9-11 just about everything that could go wrong did go wrong. The entire military system which had been doing the job of intercepting planes for years all of a sudden didn't have a clue what to do about FOUR hijacked planes.

Operation Northwoods........... revised and carried out.

I don't give Bush credit for 9-11 because I don't think he is smart enough to go to the bathroom by himself but I do give Cheney, Rummy & a couple others with being vile enough, greedy enough, & corrupt enough to plan and carry out this whole operation.

I think that History will prove me right on that account.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Tue 31 Jan, 2006 11:23 pm
nimh wrote:
You can leave off the Republican/Conservative vs Democrat/Liberal stuff in this context, too.
I considered posting that myself, but didn't see the profit in it. Other than hyper-partisan fools on the right perhaps (and incomprehensibly a couple on the left); you guys are uniformly respected by conservatives, liberals and everyone in-between alike.
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Anon-Voter
 
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Reply Tue 31 Jan, 2006 11:25 pm
Mark
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Tue 31 Jan, 2006 11:42 pm
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How does it feel to eat your own words Tico? I don't make up news links or news stories, ever.


Wanna BET?

Let me go back thru the archives of the crap you have written about me,and I will find proof.
I will have it tomorrow.
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Anon-Voter
 
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Reply Tue 31 Jan, 2006 11:46 pm
mysteryman wrote:
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How does it feel to eat your own words Tico? I don't make up news links or news stories, ever.


Wanna BET?

Let me go back thru the archives of the crap you have written about me,and I will find proof.
I will have it tomorrow.


The story of your life!

Anon
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freedom4free
 
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Reply Wed 1 Feb, 2006 07:34 am
http://images.dailykos.com/images/admin/masthead_noads.jpg

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20 reasons to question the official story of 9/11

by dailykoster
Tue Jan 31, 2006


(1) While the government has consistently stated that it did not know where the aircraft were before they struck, the Secretary of Transportation testified before the 9/11 Commission that Vice President Cheney monitored flight 77 for many miles as it approached the Pentagon and -- when a military man asked "do the orders still stand?" -- Cheney responded affirmatively.


(2) The tape of interviews of air traffic controllers on-duty on 9/11 was intentionally destroyed by crushing the cassette by hand, cutting the tape into little pieces, and then dropping the pieces in different trash cans around the building


(3) The 9-11 Commission refused to examine the vast majority of evidence about 9/11, and even the former director of the FBI says there was a cover up by the 9/11 Commission


(4) Investigators for the Congressional Joint Inquiry discovered that an FBI informant had hosted and rented a room to two hijackers in 2000 and that, when the Inquiry sought to interview the informant, the FBI refused outright, and then hid him in an unknown location, and that a high-level FBI official stated these blocking maneuvers were undertaken under orders from the White House


(5) A retired Air Force Colonel who flew over 100 combat missions and was the director of the Star Wars defense program under both Republican and Democratic administrations (and a member of Scholars for 9/11 Truth) recently said:

"If our government had merely done nothing, and allowed normal procedures to happen on that morning of 9/11, the twin towers would still be standing, and thousands of dead Americans would still be alive. That is treason!"


(6) Recently declassified documents show that in the 1960's, the American Joint Chiefs of Staff signed off on a plan to blow up AMERICAN airplanes (using an elaborate plan involving the switching of airplanes), and also committing terrorist murders against U.S. citizens on American soil, and then blaming it on the Cubans in order to justify an invasion of Cuba


(7) The Secret Service, which is highly trained to whisk the president away from danger and to a secure location in the event of a threat, breached all standard procedures and allowed President Bush to remain at a highly-publicized location for 25 minutes after it was known that the nation was under attack


(8) The U.S. defense agency responsible for protecting the U.S. had run drills for several years of planes being used as weapons against the World Trade Center and other U.S. high-profile buildings, and "numerous types of civilian and military aircraft were used as mock hijacked aircraft". In other words, drills using REAL AIRCRAFT simulating terrorist attacks crashing jets into buildings, including the twin towers, were run


(9) The military had also conducted drills of planes crashing into the Pentagon


(10) On the morning of 9/11, 5 war games and terror drills were being conducted by several U.S. defense agencies, including one "live fly" exercise using REAL planes. And the drills apparently included the injection of false "radar blips" onto the screens of air traffic controllers


(11) The government was running a simulation of a plane crashing into a building on the morning of 9/11


(12) A third world trade center building, called building 7, collapsed on the afternoon of 9/11, but was never hit by plane, fell at the same speed as if there were no floors or walls to cause resistance, contained only small fires before the collapse, and became the first steel-frame building in history to collapse due to fire alone


(13) USA Today stated that the FBI believed that bombs in the buildings brought the buildings down

(14) MSNBC stated that police officials believe "that one of the explosions at the world trade center . . . may have been caused by a van that was parked in the building that may have had some kind of explosive device in it, so their fear is that there may have been explosive devices planted either in the building or in the adjacent area"


(15) The NY Fire Department Chief of Safety stated there were "bombs" and "secondary devices", which caused the explosions in the buildings


(16) NYC firefighters who witnessed attacks stated that it looked like there were bombs in the buildings. A NYC firefighter stated "On the last trip up a bomb went off. We think there was bombs set in the building"


(17) The head of a national demolition association stated that the collapse of the towers looked like a "classic controlled demolition"


(18) Eyewitnesses have testified that substantial explosions occurred well BELOW the area impacted by the planes, and -- according to some witnesses -- they occurred BEFORE the plane had even hit


(19) A police officer testified that there were numerous, HUGE explosions at the top of one of the twin towers 15 minutes apart, before the tower collapsed


(20) Numerous, credible ex-government officials are warning that the U.S. government might very well attack its own people to justify a further clampdown on civil rights and to justify additional wars

source
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farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 1 Feb, 2006 08:34 am
magginkat wrote
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I don't know you Nimh but I don't think I need you or anyone else to tell me what to leave out. You may not agree with it but you have no right to tell me that I cannot write it.

While this is true, I can also exercise my right as another poster who reminds you that there is a huge difference between evidence and sandwich wrap.

Your probably a nie person but youre way too gullible and since these "9-11" conspiracies all come down to a bunch of pre-digested questions about what "someone else asserts" and you just buy without doing any checking of your own. Why that just makes you a fool.


No explosive resideus found in environmental "sniffers" at the WTC site (explosive residues, which are nitrogen based compounds hang around areas for weeks, even nuclear devices use high explosives to trigger the neutron triggers)

The forensic testing of the metal joists on the WTC concluded without a doubt that thermal creep cause the joists to bend and collapse<(there was a design flaw in the bolt pattern , but that would carry your conspiracy back to 1970 when the buildings went up)

The WTC, since 1993's attempted bombing, had bomb dogs on staff and these guys were taken around the building periodically. If someone was going to set up a blast "cutting" exercise it would have taken weeks to smuggle all the explosives and detonation cords into the building. The dogs could have sniffed that without any effort.

The seismic records at Columbia and SUNY caught no "explosive shots" before, during or while the WTC came down.

The Pentagon security cameras did catch the plane entering the floor level of the Pentagon. Also there were many eye witnesses that caught the sight and reported it to the newspapers.

When we first started hearing this crap on abuzz, it was carried by the "usual nuts" Im assuming that these poor souls have moved on, taken new names and joined A2k.

AS I said, we lost a couple of dear old people from Lubec. Im friends with the couples son and wife and .the couple, both in their 80's were flying to California to visit relatives. It was the first time either had flown in a plane.
They died in the crash , thats a fact.The son had a videocorder of the trip to Logan AP. They all went and the last scene was the plane taxiing. I understood that the FBI had asked for the camcorder video.

PS, I wonder how the Insurance Institute and the big insurers would react to a consideration that this was a planned demolition.
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AliceInWonderland
 
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Reply Wed 1 Feb, 2006 08:54 am
If the military had shot down the planes, full of civilians, we'd have the same people on here screaming about that. Make an attempt to place yourself in the decision-making chair. You've got planes that have been hijacked, but you're not really sure it's a hijacking since you haven't heard any demands; you know the direction the planes are heading, but not their intent; planes havent' been used to crash into buildings before so that seems unlikely. Do you shoot them down? What if you shoot them down and find out later that the plane had simply lost communications and had a problem? In hindsight, should have shot them down, but we don't have the benefit of hindsight while the situation is in progress. Perhaps you conspiracy folks should refer to the post about strong partisanship and brainwaves.
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Magginkat
 
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Reply Wed 1 Feb, 2006 09:06 am
farmerman wrote:
magginkat wrote
Quote:
I don't know you Nimh but I don't think I need you or anyone else to tell me what to leave out. You may not agree with it but you have no right to tell me that I cannot write it.

While this is true, I can also exercise my right as another poster who reminds you that there is a huge difference between evidence and sandwich wrap.

Your probably a nie person but youre way too gullible and since these "9-11" conspiracies all come down to a bunch of pre-digested questions about what "someone else asserts" and you just buy without doing any checking of your own. Why that just makes you a fool.



And may I remind you that what you write is just your opinion.

I think you are way too gullible if you think that the thugs who are currently running the government would not stoop to any level to keep the power they have seized. They have been in your face with their lies and corruption.

What amazes me is that those righteous individuals who were screaming for Bill Clinton's head because he told a lie about a personal affair that was none of their business are so busy defending & making excuses for this corrupt gang of thugs who are destroying this country from the inside out.

Just for your information I did not wait to read what others wrote before I started asking questions. My first question after seeing the second plane hit the WTC was, "Where the hell are the interceptor planes?" I continued to ask that question as the next plane hit the Pentagon, for God's sake.

I am still asking questions and I plan to continue to do so. If that bothers you, too bad. I don't trust these corrupt liars as far as I can throw a bull by the tail.

At this moment the cable news is showing a clip of an apartment fire in a six story building in the Bronx......to quote, "The fire started on the third floor and burned all the way up to the 6th".

Isn't it amazing that the WTC buildings... (110 stories?) among the other amazing things that happened that day burned DOWN through steel and concrete?

And you have the gall to call me gullible?
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