Different realities

well my answer to that question is

think about what you should said, tell me if reality can go over or under another reality...my answer would have to be that it cannot.

You can't change reality, it is what it is. WHAT is it? our enviroment expereienced through our senses.

I fear you may be interpreting reality to be alot more than it actually is.

I think you maybe interpreting reality as a lot less than what it is.

Isn't this merely an assumption? How do you know we even exist in an "environment"? What does the word mean to you?

enviroment means to me a place where living things exist...

How do you know we exist at all?

I don't know how to PROVE my existence, because there's no way, logically or experimentally to do so. But thank goodness that's not a problem. The problem of one's own existence is, like the question of free will vs. determinism, purely academic.
Let me put it this way: if you could show me that logically I do not exist, I would agree and then go to the kitchen and enjoy a bottle of "non-existent" beer. And I would probably do so with no greater enjoyment if you proved to me that I DID exist.

I bet we would enjoy everthing so much more if we would just stop trying to define it all.

Echi is probably right.

Whats the point in searching if the more searching we do is just getting us farther away from the answer?

Echi, I too am not too impressed with definitions. But, of course, you know that we need language to function and that very few of our terms can serve if left undefined. I do think that there are two general ways to begin the investigation of a problem: (1) to define precisely the object of study at the beginning so we can know what to include and what to ignore in our observations, and (2) to define imprecisely the "object" of study on the assumption that we cannot precisely define it before studying it, that a precise definition or description is the goal, the end not the beginning, of study. I prefer (2), because the rigour one seeks in a precise preliminary definition presumes too much. The result is often a kind of "tunnnel vision" and "rigour mortis" in our investigation, too narrow and rigid, insufficiently open-ended and exploratory.

Something else, the title of this thread is "different realities." I find that strange. To me, reality is "that which is the case", the actual as opposed to the illusory. But with this title, different realities, there is a connotation of different PLACES, as if we were talking about different universes.

But our terms ARE left undefined; we only pretend otherwise. And language is much more of an obsession than a necessity IMO.

Whats the difference between different realities and different universes if we characterize the universe as a single?

Hmmm how interesting....

I just happened to be reading through my journal entries today, looking for something specific. I ran across this one in the process... seems like it might fit into this discussion:

6-7-98

Here I am, filled with so many questions. Sometimes the reality of life hits me so hard it's like a swift smack in the face. I saw "The Truman Show" tonight. A movie with the reality of my life set within it's perimeters. A man who is born, grows up, and lives his entire life in a fake world set up for him, for the entertainment of others. Everything that happens in his life is based on him doing things the same every day. And then one day he begins to question his existence. If it's really real. If his world is really real. And he begins to make efforts to escape from his world to no avail, because for him to escape means the end of "The Truman Show". Which is more important to those controlling him than his own life is.

Then the day comes when he literally sails to the end of his world and crashes into the wall that all his life has encompassed him without him even knowing it was there. How cruel… And he's standing at the doorway to his freedom, and the one who "created" his whole life, everything he's ever known to be real, makes one last effort to keep him by enticing him with things that most (if not all) people desire. Recognition, money, and safety from a world he's never known. And his response? "In case I don't see you later, (which I know I won't) Good afternoon, Good evening, and Good night.", and he just walks through the door, never to return. Does this mean that all his troubles are over? No, I think not. He came to the edge of reality, and chose not to hide in the world he had always known, but to move on to something greater, no matter what the cost was to himself.

Are you saying our reality has a crossable wall that we dont know about so we just stay in the fake world while we are watched on tv 24/7?

LOL no pseudo... goodness...

I'm saying we all have a perspective of what reality is. It's shaped by what we have been through in our life. It is scary to step outside of what we know, or feel is comfortable. But I believe to grow as a person we need to be willing to step outside of what is familiar to us, ie: our comfort zones once in awhile.

The question is is reality crossable? Is there a end of your comfort zone in your own reality?

Reality is reality. How could there be more than one?

What do you think?

If my reality is that the sky is green while the grass is blue because I'm color blind is that crossable? Probably not... There's really no way to prove it to me because I can't see the color for what it is...

If my reality is that they sky is green while the grass is blue because I was taught that blue is actually green and green is actually blue without knowing it... is that crossable? Yes I believe so. Yet I would never know that unless I was willing to step outside of what I had been taught and consider another possibility.

Echi... what happened? You're image is fading!!