Can You Make Me See Red?

Francis wrote:

Momma Angel wrote:

I am, myself, just beginning to know what it means to be alive.

Being on A2K, telling lies and everything?

(I try not to see red)...

I missed this the first time around.

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I submit that to those that do believe God exists because they have personally experienced it, this is basically the same. They cannot make you see or experience God.

Now, prove red, sight, or sound to these three. Can you do it? Can you make me see red?

Thanx ehBeth. I think I'll look into it!

ass (1) beast of burden, O.E. assa (Old Northumbrian assal, assald), prob. from O.Celt. *as(s)in "donkey," which (with Ger. esel, Goth. asilus, Lith. asilas, O.C.S. osl) is ultimately from L. asinus, probably of Middle Eastern origin (cf. Sumerian ansu). Since ancient Gk. times, in fables and parables, the animal typifies clumsiness and stupidity (hence asshead, 1550, etc.). To make an ass of oneself is from 1590. Asses' Bridge (c.1780), from L. Pons Asinorum, is fifth proposition of first book of Euclid's "Elements."

ass (2) slang for "backside," first attested 1860 in nautical slang, in popular use from 1930; from Amer.Eng. pronunciation of arse (q.v.). The loss of -r- before -s- attested in several other words (e.g. burst/bust, curse/cuss, horse/hoss, barse/bass). Indirect evidence of the change from arse to ass can be traced to 1785 (in euphemistic avoidance of ass "donkey" by polite speakers) and perhaps to Shakespeare, if Nick Bottom transformed into a donkey in "A Midsummer Night's Dream" (1594) is the word-play some think it is. Meaning "woman regarded as a sexual object" is from 1942. Asshole first attested 1935.

dick "fellow, lad, man," 1553, rhyming nickname for Rick, short for Richard, one of the commonest Eng. names, it has long been a synonym for "fellow," and so most of the slang senses are probably very old, but naturally hard to find in the surviving records. The meaning "penis" is attested from 1891 in British army slang; dickhead "stupid person" is from 1969. Meaning "detective" is recorded from 1908, perhaps as a shortened variant of detective. The Dick Whittington story is an old one, told under other names throughout Europe, of a poor boy who sends a cat he had bought for a penny as his stake in a trading voyage; the captain sells it on his behalf for a fortune to a foreign king whose palace is overrun by rats. The hero devotes part of his windfall to charity, which may be why the legend attached in England since 16c. to Sir Richard Whittington (d.1423), three times Lord Mayor of London, who died childless and devoted large sums in his will to churches, almshouses, and St. Bartholomew's Hospital.

But here's an etymology thing I've wondered about...

Does anyone know why and when exactly the word "gay" stopped meaning happy, and started meaning homosexual? I've done some superficial research, but haven't found much.

Rawson ["Wicked Words"] notes a male prostitute using gay in reference to male homosexuals (but also to female prostitutes) in London's notorious Cleveland Street Scandal of 1889. Ayto ["20th Century Words"] calls attention to the ambiguous use of the word in the 1868 song "The Gay Young Clerk in the Dry Goods Store," by U.S. female impersonator Will S. Hays. The word gay in the 1890s had an overall tinge of promiscuity -- a gay house was a brothel. The suggestion of immorality in the word can be traced back to 1637.

Somewhere back in this thread (I'm not going back to look) you said that God would 'save' those in societies who had no knowledge of him as 'innocents'. God of the bible made a covenant with Abraham, repeated with with Isaac and Jacob, and gave the Word to Moses. Jesus then gave his interpretation of the Word to his followers (who were ALL Jews and believers of the same God). Paul then changed the rules completely and was much more interested in converting pagans than Jews, but even he didn't claim God/Jesus would save those in societies not yet 'informed'. Where did you come up with that?

Anyway, I can't remember where I first heard that if you never heard of Jesus then you wouldn't be held accountable so I probably shouldn't have said anything about it.

But, I did do some research on this and this is what the Bible says (which I imagine you already know. and possibly were going to enlighten me? ) and it seems I was wrong.

If a person never hears about God at all such as if they are in a place where they never have an opportunity to hear about God, He is not going to hold that against them. They would much be like children are before they get to the age of understanding.

But, I did do some research on this and this is what the Bible says (which I imagine you already know. and possibly were going to enlighten me? ) and it seems I was wrong.

If a person never hears about God at all such as if they are in a place where they never have an opportunity to hear about God, He is not going to hold that against them. They would much be like children are before they get to the age of understanding.

I'm glad that I qualified that statement by if and equated it to that of being like a child......

Since God is a just God He would NOT hold it against someone if they had never heard about Him. What I was wrong about was assuming that everyone wouldn't get that opportunity to hear about God. This passage:

Matthew 24:14 ~ And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

...says that the gospel will be preached to all the world.

Momma Angel wrote:

I'm glad that I qualified that statement by if and equated it to that of being like a child......

Since God is a just God He would NOT hold it against someone if they had never heard about Him. What I was wrong about was assuming that everyone wouldn't get that opportunity to hear about God. This passage:

Matthew 24:14 ~ And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

...says that the gospel will be preached to all the world.

We were posting at the same time, MA. This is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. You state that your God is a just God and go on to state as fact what he would and wouldn't do in a certain circumstance as if you know what would happen. It's purely a guess on your part and yet you state it as fact.