Map may show Chinese explorer discovered America

When Leif was a young boy, his father Eric was banished three years from Iceland for killing a man during a dispute. Unable to return to Norway and now banished from Iceland, Erik took his family and sailed westward following reports of a new land off the coast of Iceland. The reports were true and Eric the Red reached a cold, rough land of glaciers and icebergs. He purposely called it "Greenland", hoping that this motivating name would attract other colonists. Eric became the first European to settle permanently in Greenland.

Leif and his family lived entirely isolated in Greenland for three years. After the end of his three years banishment, Eric the Red returned to Iceland looking for people to settle in his "Green Land". In the summer of 985, Eric set out with 25 ships loaded with Icelandic colonists, but the weather was treacherous and only 14 ships and about 350 settlers managed to make the crossing. This was the beginning of the first European settlement of Greenland, which would last for over 400 years

The Saga of the Greenlanders tells that on his return to Greenland, Leif Ericson met a sailor called Bjarni Herjolfsson. Herjolfsson told Leif how his ship got lost in the ocean after been driven far off course by a storm, and affirmed sighting a green, forested land which was not Greenland because it had no glaciers or fjords. Herjolfsson is considered to be the first European to have spotted North America, possibly the coast of Nova Scotia.

On his arrival to Greenland, Leif became known as "Leif the Lucky" because he had found great wealth and no troubles during his expedition to Vinland. Eric the Red died one year after his son's return from Vinland, so Leif took over his father's farm of Brattahlid and never travelled again.

Leif's brother, Thorvald Ericson, organized a second expedition to Vinland two years after Leif's journey. While exploring the new land, Thorvald was killed in a violent clash with a group of native North Americans. Thorvald Ericson became the first European to die and to be buried in America.

Leif's reports of fertile Vinland reached as far as Iceland, and a colonist expedition composed by sixty men and five women was organized by Thorfinn Karlsefni. The group led by Thorfinn settled in Vinland for about three years. It is thought that they were probably driven away by violent encounters with the Skraelings, a Norse word for the native North Americans. During their time in Vinland, Thorfinn and his wife Gudrid had a son, Snorri, who was first European child to be born in America.

Eventually, the Norse colony in Vinland was abandoned and Thorfinn, Gudrid and Snorri returned to Iceland. It is believed that the Greenlanders returned to Vinland on many occasions before the Greenland colony disappeared in the 14th-15th century. Very little is known about Leif Ericson's later life. The Saga of Eric the Red and the Saga of the Greenlanders tell that after his journey to Vinland, Leif became the most prominent person in Greenland. He was well respected and lived and died at Brattahlid.

Long time, no sea, Canajun girl . . .

Theres too much presumed accuracy (for its time) to let the Chinese be the "Discoverers" of some of these concepts in mapping when all they had was this fleet of deadrise flat bottom ships that probably moved slower than the tides at top speed.

Anyway today is the 250th anniversary of Mozart's birth, all Austria is celebrating, I wish I could link to some music on these threads!!

Some official record in Ming dynasty show Zheng had reached northern Asia, Middle East and eastern coast of Africa, but nothing was mentioned about America, Greenland, Antarctica and Arctica. But these place was described in that map. I does not have suffient evidence to prove that map is fake. However, one officer in Zheng's fleet had written a book about their great voyage. The book was named 顺风相送(prounced shun feng xiang song , in english it means "follwing the wind")

These were very big ships with many hundreds as crew. Why were they only doing coastal sailing were these the orders from the emperor??

Longbowman did the Chinese ever use longbows in battle btw??

Anyway thank you for

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Some official record in Ming dynasty show Zheng had reached northern Asia, Middle East and eastern coast of Africa, but nothing was mentioned about America, Greenland, Antarctica and Arctica. But these place was described in that map. I does not have suffient evidence to prove that map is fake. However, one officer in Zheng's fleet had written a book about their great voyage. The book was named 顺风相送(prounced shun feng xiang song , in english it means "follwing the wind")

These were very big ships with many hundreds as crew. Why were they only doing coastal sailing were these the orders from the emperor??

The evidence at Lanse Aux Meadows has shown that perhaps the settlement ws involved in lumber milleing and shipwright work because theyve found butternut wood and nuts . With some of the remaining wood frags showing hand planing and adxe marks. Further, butternut were not reported from Newfoundland even before the Little Ice Age