Exactly Why Don't You Believe In the God of the Bible?

Why Did God "hardened" the pharaoh's heart? Was this necessary? Why not leave it the way it is, without controlling the pharaoh's will against letting "Moses's] people go"?

But why does He want us to think for ourselves? Being zombies are capable to love as well, given God's touch that is. Yeah, what good is love if it is forced? Tell me that. You can make people love you (if you are God of course) anything can happen. You either love him or don't? God loves us all, and if we don't believe in Him, we will burn in Hell for all eternity. Love? What is love to you, MA, to God?

"What good would love be if you had to make someone love you"? I think that it would be the ideal thing if love is what you're looking for. "God wants us to love Him because we want to love Him." Don't you think you are over generalizing a little, MA? Some of us don't believe in God.

Does this make any sense to you, MA? What difference does it make if God created Adam and Eve if they don't know what is right and what is wrong? How can anybody, let alone Adam and Eve to trust just God? Were they taught what was right and what was wrong? How can you be so sure? I have to be taught what is right and what is wrong in order to distinguish the difference between the two.
He told them what was right and wrong. He said don't and they did.

How can that possibly be a lesson in Righteousness, MA?

But your mother knew that you didn't know what was right and what was wrong, that you were innocent. She didn't punish you a whole eternity in suffering and pain for just one disobedience. She forgave you, was patient with you. She loved you. You learned later in life that your mother imposed those rules because she loved you, gave you a reason for the punishment. [Now], can you tell me why was it considered wrong for Adam and Eve to eat from the Tree, MA? Be at least a little bit reasonable.

People like you who have the same ideals and use it to try to hurt people with their religious beliefs.

I believe that doing the right thing is to not hurt people physically, emotionally, or humiliate them. And I think this also applies to you, too, MA.

But they did get pregnant, MA.

But you are speaking about them, MA. The law that you are so fond of would also apply to them, too.

A woman does what she wants with her body. She can decide what to do if she doesn't want to have a baby. Nobody's business.

Didn't you think before you were Christian that you should've mind your own business?

But you do hurt them, MA if you are one of those people. There are people who are not very tolerant of others. If you taught those people (told them that homosexuality is wrong), they would do anything to keep it right. They would even use violence to accomplish that.

And I mind my own business, and so should you.

Maybe not you, but others who think like you. People influence people, MA.

I still think that a woman has the right to have a baby if she wants to. Abortion is legal in the US, and there are people who don't agree with it. And there are others who would do anything (even violence) to stop these procedures.

Some people would hate them. Do you hate your friends, MA? Do want your friends to be happy? If you love your friends, you will let them be happy with what they do. But if you say that you love your friends and don't let them be happy, you are a Hypocrite. It is what people do that defines them.

They are your friends, MA. It Depends if that "something" interfere with their happiness. You are happy with what you do. If you are happy with what you do, and they aren't happy with what they do because you are part of their unhappiness, they have the right to hate you. Simple.

Not "all would hate each other," but a lot of people would dislike quite a few. We don't know everybody's feelings, MA.

I don't disagree with you, sweet MA. There are people who think like you that would hurt other people who think like me.

I'm very happy for you and the the cats. Hope everything goes well.

Momma, before I attempt to answer your question, could you please tell me in your own words just exactly what or who is this "God of the Bible" you are referring to?

Halelujah!
Preach sister Momma, preach.

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Momma, before I attempt to answer your question, could you please tell me in your own words just exactly what or who is this "God of the Bible" you are referring to?

Hi Mahealani! Nice to see you. I will do my best to answer your question. If I don't do a good enough job of it, just let me know and I will address whatever you need me to.

The God of the Bible. He always has been and always will be. He created the heavens and the earth. He created man and all living things. He loves me. He takes care of me. He provides comfort when I need it. He is the most superior thing there is. He is a just God. I lean on Him all the time, good times and bad. He sent His son Jesus Christ so that I would not have to suffer the punishment for my sins. He teaches me (through His word) a better way to live. He teaches me how to be a better person. Because of Him I am free! I hope that helps!

Depends on what you mean by "requires". Certainly the application of scientific theory to the physical understanding of the cosmos requires no specific reference to origins. However the theory itself does indeed depend on it.

What do you mean by "need"? My reference to large numbers of people and persistent trends in their behavior went directly to the proposition you put forward - namely that no one "needs" it. My statement was not a sylogism, but rather the observation that many people act as though they do indeed have such a need. This is an observation that your proposition is often false in regards to the connection between need and action - not a logical refutation.

I made no particular judgement about what may be behind your asserted lack of need, but suggested some likely possibilities.

He always has been and always will be. He created the heavens and the earth. He created man and all living things. He is the most superior thing there is. He is a just God. [snip] He sent His son Jesus Christ so that I would not have to suffer the punishment for my sins. [snip] I hope that helps! [/color]

Your reference to large numbers of people is consonant with Spendi's ludicrous proposition that society could not exist without an imaginary friend superstition and a preistly hierarchy.

The "need" to search for causes and reach for the impossible final cause is the very essence of Faustian world feeling and is a feature of no other culture.

I don't think one thing defines anyone There are many things that define us. I look at a person as a whole. What are they like most of the time? So, Betty and Sue are lesbians all the time. Big deal. That's their thing. It's not mine. I don't love them any less.

They know that I would vote against same sex marriage if I were able to vote on this issue. They have absolutely no problem with it at all. They understand that we have the same rights and that I would only be sticking to my principles, just as they stick to theirs. So, if they have no problem with the way I feel and they are directly involved in this issue, I don't see why anyone else should have a problem with it.

OK, then I heartily disagree. Or, I heartily agree if you substitute "species" for culture -- it's a universal human phenomenon. Every culture has its creation myths, its search for causes.