bush Insists We Must Have Patriot Act

squinney wrote:

He didn't change the laws by passing the Patriot Act. Congress changed the laws and he agreed to them.

The Patriot Act expanded FISA. Despite that, Bush went behind Congress and changed the law to what he wanted, even after Congress had denied him the authority to eavesdrop on Americans.

If he, on his own, is going to go beyond what Congress allowed with the Patriot Act, why does he need it renewed?

Presumably it provides surveillance and law enforcement tools useful in fighting the people who are trying to kill us.

Brandon9000 wrote:

squinney wrote:

He didn't change the laws by passing the Patriot Act. Congress changed the laws and he agreed to them.

The Patriot Act expanded FISA. Despite that, Bush went behind Congress and changed the law to what he wanted, even after Congress had denied him the authority to eavesdrop on Americans.

If he, on his own, is going to go beyond what Congress allowed with the Patriot Act, why does he need it renewed?

Presumably it provides surveillance and law enforcement tools useful in fighting the people who are trying to kill us.

Presumably, yes. But AGAIN... If he has the plenary authority to write any law he wants, without Congress, in the name of being president and commander in chief and because we are at war... He can write all of the laws he needs and NOT wait for Congress to renew the Patriot Act.

Now do you get it? If he can just "Executive Order" what he needs, he can "Executive Order" the Patriot Act, right?

squinney wrote:

Brandon9000 wrote:

squinney wrote:

He didn't change the laws by passing the Patriot Act. Congress changed the laws and he agreed to them.

The Patriot Act expanded FISA. Despite that, Bush went behind Congress and changed the law to what he wanted, even after Congress had denied him the authority to eavesdrop on Americans.

If he, on his own, is going to go beyond what Congress allowed with the Patriot Act, why does he need it renewed?

Presumably it provides surveillance and law enforcement tools useful in fighting the people who are trying to kill us.

Presumably, yes. But AGAIN... If he has the plenary authority to write any law he wants, without Congress, in the name of being president and commander in chief and because we are at war... He can write all of the laws he needs and NOT wait for Congress to renew the Patriot Act.

Now do you get it? If he can just "Executive Order" what he needs, he can "Executive Order" the Patriot Act, right?

he got it the first time. he just wants to try and piss higher on the wall than anyone else.