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Why are you still a Christian?

 
 
echi
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jan, 2006 05:53 pm
What about the old puzzle that goes...
Does God have the power to make something soooo heavy, that even he can't lift it?
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jan, 2006 05:55 pm
echi,

Not only do I believe all things are possible with God, I know it is true.
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Im the other one
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jan, 2006 08:44 pm
Bartikus wrote:
"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves."

Matthew 7:15

"But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not."

2 Peter 2:1-3

"Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world."

1 John 4:1

God's word is the final word. His will be done. I throw myself at his mercy.

No one can come to God without Jesus. Not even our 'good' words or deeds can do it.

"He that believeth on him(Jesus) is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil," John 3:18-19.

"And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?" Daniel 4:35.

"Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest? For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the LORD: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word," Isaiah 66:1-2.

your righteousness (and worthiness), says the Lord, are as filthy rags, Isaiah 64:6. There is none righteous, no not one; There is none that understand, there is none that seeketh after (the true) GodÂ…There is none that doeth good, no not one, Romans 3:10-18.

Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.(Rev. 18:4-5)

Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? And what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with BelialÂ….Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing, and I will receive you. And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty. (2 Cor. 6:14-18)


http://www.myfortress.org/JoelOsteen.html


Was this meant for me?
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echi
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jan, 2006 11:35 pm
Momma Angel wrote:
Well FreeDuck,

All I can say is, this Campbell guy obviously does not believe that with God all things are possible


What was it that made you say that? I don't follow.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jan, 2006 11:38 pm
echi,

He said something about there being no heaven or something? Not true. God can do anything. He's there.
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echi
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jan, 2006 11:42 pm
Oh, of course. The Heaven comment.
Well, I think he just meant that it isn't a physical place. Do you think it is?
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jan, 2006 11:48 pm
Well, we are supposed to get new glorified bodies when we go to heaven. The streets are supposed to be paved with gold. Sounds like a physical place to me.
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talk72000
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jan, 2006 11:51 pm
Is it Cahleefornia or the land of Oz with gold brick roads?
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echi
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jan, 2006 11:56 pm
I"m sorry, Momma Angel... You're losing me, here. Your beliefs are starting to kinda spook me out a little.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Tue 3 Jan, 2006 12:05 am
echi,

Don't let them. I don't know exactly if heaven is a physical place or not. I really don't. I do know that when we go to heaven we will get new glorified bodies. Never get sick, old, etc. So, if it says we get bodies, sounds physical to me, but I don't know if it's meant as only spiritual or not.

echi,

Don't let it spook you. There is nothing about my beliefs that are scary, at least not to me.

I am sure to someone who does not believe in what I believe in, it sounds pretty out there. But remember, Buddhism, Muslim, etc., sound out thre to me.
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Wolf ODonnell
 
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Reply Tue 3 Jan, 2006 09:14 am
Momma Angel wrote:
echi,

Don't let them. I don't know exactly if heaven is a physical place or not. I really don't. I do know that when we go to heaven we will get new glorified bodies. Never get sick, old, etc. So, if it says we get bodies, sounds physical to me, but I don't know if it's meant as only spiritual or not.

echi,

Don't let it spook you. There is nothing about my beliefs that are scary, at least not to me.

I am sure to someone who does not believe in what I believe in, it sounds pretty out there. But remember, Buddhism, Muslim, etc., sound out thre to me.


Where'd you get the idea in the first place, is what I want to know. I can't remember reading that stuff in Revelations and when I was young I loved reading it (well, the surreal parts anyway. I love the surreal).
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Tue 3 Jan, 2006 10:40 am
Wolf_ODonnel,

I don't recall saying it was any particular book of the Bible, much less Revelation (not plural). I will look up some verses and post them later.
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squinney
 
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Reply Tue 3 Jan, 2006 11:12 am
What facinated me about the "streets of gold" references, everyone having their own mansion, etc was why God would use such descriptions.

We are told to not covet, that things of this world are not of heaven, and to not worship worldly things, and yet He entices us with this description of heaven?
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Tue 3 Jan, 2006 11:25 am
squinney,

You see it as enticement? I rarely think of the things in heaven like that. I just pointed out that streets of gold thing in reference to echi asking about whether heaven was a physical place.

I just know that I will be in heaven with the Lord, never sick, never crying, never old, never hurting, that's all the enticement I need.

Just to be with Him!
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squinney
 
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Reply Tue 3 Jan, 2006 12:31 pm
If that's all you need, and all we as Christians are instructed to want, then why include that description of heaven in the Bible?
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Tue 3 Jan, 2006 12:38 pm
squinney wrote:
If that's all you need, and all we as Christians are instructed to want, then why include that description of heaven in the Bible?

squinney,

I will have to go and do some reading on that before I answer you. I cannot give you an informed answer at this moment.

I'll be baaaaaccccckkkkkk!
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echi
 
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Reply Tue 3 Jan, 2006 01:22 pm
squinney wrote:
What facinated me about the "streets of gold" references, everyone having their own mansion, etc was why God would use such descriptions.

We are told to not covet, that things of this world are not of heaven, and to not worship worldly things, and yet He entices us with this description of heaven?

Because it is not literal. It is referring to something that cannot be directly referred to.

Momma Wrote:
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I just know that I will be in heaven with the Lord, never sick, never crying, never old, never hurting...

This is describing an eternal state... one that is not defined by past or future. "Doing" comes from "wanting". As there is no "wanting" (in Heaven) there is no "doing". Where there is no "doing" there is no concept of time. I contend that we let go of these concepts when we die... that's what dying is.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Tue 3 Jan, 2006 01:27 pm
There is physical death. There is spiritual death.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Tue 3 Jan, 2006 03:06 pm
Momma Angel wrote:
There is physical death. There is spiritual death.

Yes of course that's why my county has two coroners.
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Francis
 
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Reply Tue 3 Jan, 2006 03:08 pm
Dys, why are you still a Christian?
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