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The US, UN & Iraq III

 
 
BillW
 
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Reply Wed 16 Jul, 2003 04:00 pm
Then he sent everyone to the Sunday talk shows. You'll see Bush pick one reporter out, chastise him/her, and then not allow them into any press briefings ever again.
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Wed 16 Jul, 2003 05:30 pm
I'm not sure the FBI will look for anything but proof that Bush was not involved... Do you trust Justice to see this one through?
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Wed 16 Jul, 2003 05:40 pm
by Iraqi exiles or others
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BillW
 
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Reply Wed 16 Jul, 2003 06:49 pm
The whistleblowers are starting to come out. The Bush Administration is "leaking". Sad day that we can not trust the unPresident, or anyone in his regime and must therefore depend on whistleblowers :sad:
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snood
 
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Reply Wed 16 Jul, 2003 07:02 pm
I've never trusted the mealy-mouthed idjit anyway.
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BillW
 
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Reply Wed 16 Jul, 2003 07:14 pm
Neither does any of the rest of them, just won't admit it!!!!!!!
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 16 Jul, 2003 08:28 pm
I wonder if Ari started a resignation glut? If he was able to put two and two together, I'm sure others are beginning to see the light. c.i.
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blatham
 
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Reply Wed 16 Jul, 2003 08:59 pm
ci

Three significant resignations; Ari, Karen Hughes, and Mrs. James Carville (plus some Pentagon folks jumped or pushed). But there's really no way of knowing, outside of some future revelations, that these resignations aren't benign.
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mamajuana
 
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Reply Wed 16 Jul, 2003 09:54 pm
Well, I doubt Hughes' resignaion was benign. What I'd heard was that she and Rove didn't work out. Hughes had some softening effect, but no way was Rove going to allow anybody else to have a name. Sort of wonder what Mary knew that made her get out. She'd been with Cheney for years, and was always a working mother. Ari - did he jump or was he pushed? A lot of people in his job burn out in a few years.

Tart - if you're referring to Justice, as in Ashcroft - you kidding? Would you trust that department to find anything that wasn't party line? Watch Tenet come out a hero in this. I'm surprised the WH, in all its wisdom, hasn't looked at the fact that Tenet is looking not only responsible, but obviously taking the fall. Can't wait for his book.
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blatham
 
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Reply Wed 16 Jul, 2003 11:42 pm
You'll want to read all of this one...
Quote:
The Israeli influence was revealed most clearly by a story floated by unnamed senior US officials in the American press, suggesting the reason that no banned weapons had been found in Iraq was that they had been smuggled into Syria. Intelligence sources say that the story came from the office of the Israeli prime minister.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,999737,00.html
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jul, 2003 05:16 am
I just finished reading the printed version of the Guardian then saw your post Blatham. I've often wondered about these Likudniks in the US Administration, just what is going on?

How did they ever hope to pursuade the public to back the idea and shoulder the cost of destroying Saddam and overthrowing govts in Syria Lebanon Iran Saudi Arabia etc? It's enough to make any hard nosed realist into a light weight conspiracy theorist.

ps dont forget to tune in later today for Tony Blair addressing Congress. [Pity he won't be putting any Iraqi WMD on the table, or he could have taken a medal home].

Actually I have to admire Blair's stamina. He has just been through the toughest 6 months in politics and now he's going round the world again Thursday America Friday Japan Saturday Hong Kong Sunday...

Are politicians tested for performance enhancing drugs such as nandrolone? And why isn't George Bush taking any?
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jul, 2003 05:19 am
Bush must be taking them just to remain upright and speaking.

Great little post there Steve . . . LOL . . .
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jul, 2003 07:48 am
Mamaj -- My comment about Justice was intended ironically! Now, do you think the Senate will let this go? And where do we put Lieberman, if not in the stocks? I'd be most interested to hear from fellow Dems on their assessments of Lieberman's statements yesterday. I'd also like to run a lottery on the chances of Tenet and Lieberman getting (in the long run) some wonderfully lucrative appointments to boards of major corporations which just happen also to be significant contributors to the Bush campaign...
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snood
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jul, 2003 07:59 am
Anybody got a link to Lieberman's comments?
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jul, 2003 08:41 am
Lieberman (don't have link, heard on radio) joined in the effort to pin the blame on the CIA and then said, as an afterthought, "but the buck stops..."
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BillW
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jul, 2003 11:48 am
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2003/07/16/national1518EDT0675.DTL

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Lieberman, Dean call for CIA director's resignation RON FOURNIER, AP Political Writer

(07-16) 14:18 PDT CHARLESTON, S.C. (AP) -- Two of the Democratic presidential candidates called for the resignation of embattled CIA director George Tenet on Wednesday as the rest of the field faulted President Bush for misleading the public about Iraq.

"The president has to accept some responsibility," Joe Lieberman told supporters during a campaign appearance. "This president seems to be saying, 'The buck never stops here."'

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Lieberman, one of the most forceful supporters of the war among the nine Democratic candidates, said Bush must be held accountable for misleading the public about his justification for military action. Democrats have suggested that Tenet has become the administration's fall guy, taking the blame to shield Bush from political fallout.

"If, in fact, it was his fault, then George Tenet has to be held responsible," Lieberman said during a campaign appearance at Hyman's Seafood restaurant.

In an interview afterward, Lieberman said he would seek Tenet's resignation.

"The White House doesn't accept responsibility. Tenet steps forward and accepts responsibility. And then the president says he hasn't lost confidence in the CIA. Something's wrong here," Lieberman said.

"I guess I'd say under these circumstances, if I was president and I was put in a position to make a statement in a State of the Union to the American people that was not truthful and the CIA director came forward and accepted responsibility, I'd ask him to leave," the senator said.
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snood
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jul, 2003 11:59 am
Lieberman's always struck me as an opportunistic wimp, and this has done nothing to change my mind.

...and the man's voice makes my skin crawl...
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Sofia
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jul, 2003 01:45 pm
I like Joe, but I wish I didn't always have to see his bottom row of teeth when he talks.

Bush's eyes are too small.

Kerry's face is too long and skinny.

Kucinich looks like Dennis the Menace (someone else brought this up--)

Gephardt stole some woman's lovely cheekbones.

Graham has Bulldog jowls.

Pelosi has the fakest smile I have ever seen.

None of this matters.

I am bored.

Yes, to snood. I wish Joe would put some mustard on that voice. :wink:
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Scrat
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jul, 2003 01:46 pm
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British Prime Minister Tony Blair defended yesterday British claims that Saddam Hussein had tried to get uranium from the African state of Niger in the late 1990s.

"I stand by entirely the claim that was made last September," Blair told parliament, referring to the allegation in the British government dossier published in the build up to the Iraq war.

http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/Articles.asp?Article=56544&Sn=WORL
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jul, 2003 02:10 pm
Thanks for that, Scrat.

As pointed out in today's 'Independent':
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And make no mistake, Americans love Mr Blair (though what with the row over the Guantanamo Bay prisoners and the difficulties faced by British companies in securing Iraq reconstruction contracts, the affection is less than obvious).
[...]

Leaders face growing pressure for answers over Iraq


:wink:
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