Animals have rights but is it OK to eat them??

I haven't read this whole thread so ignore me if this has already been discussed. Supposedly the natural inclination to eat meat is to get to the nutrients that the meat-eaters eat. The theory states that man has a natural taste for those animals that themselves eat the grains, fruits, berries, etc that man needs to survive. We tend to not eat other meat-eaters unless they too are omnivores. We eat beef, lamb, pork, poultry, etc, but what do those animals all subsist on? Veggies!

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Not necessarily true. Cattle feed often contains animal by-products, and pigs will eat just about anything. So will goats.

The bear hunters I know all eat the meat, though it isn't something I'm interested in trying. Dog and cat are considered delicacies in some asian countries.

I forgot to mention fish. Most fishes eat other fish.

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I'm talking caveman times and natural inclination. We weren't feeding the bison they were self grazing.

I hear you on the fish, but my understanding is that bear are omnivores. I eat meat regularly so I'm not advocating one position or another. I find the theory interesting.

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Oh, and that fish-eating fish are also trying to get to the nutrients consumed by the smallest algae eaters.

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It's probably already been posted:

If God didn't want us to eat animals, why did he make them out of meat?

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J_B wrote:

I'm talking caveman times and natural inclination. We weren't feeding the bison they were self grazing.

I hear you on the fish, but my understanding is that bear are omnivores. I eat meat regularly so I'm not advocating one position or another. I find the theory interesting.

Need to also take into consideration the build and make of the animals in questions. You wouldn't see a cow trying to run down a gazelle.

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cjhsa wrote:

It's probably already been posted:

If God didn't want us to eat animals, why did he make them out of meat?

Thanks, cjhsa. That's the joke I was looking for!

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I will give up meat and become a vegetarian on the day my eyes relocate. Whilever they focus forward I am a predator. When my vision is mainly for checking on what is behind me or is about to attack me from the sides then I will be a herbivore - prey.

And when it comes to rights, let's face it, you can enact all the laws you want, but none of us has any inalienable rights. Away from the immediate protection of law and order we are all fair game for the stronger and meaner.

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A fresh approach, Tezz.

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lezzles wrote:

And when it comes to rights, let's face it, you can enact all the laws you want, but none of us has any inalienable rights. Away from the immediate protection of law and order we are all fair game for the stronger and meaner.

All this fascination with "rights"... What about how you feel. Do you feel pleased with yourself when you kill an animal? Do you even think about that fact when you are eating it, or is it just some mysterious "food"?

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echi wrote:

All this fascination with "rights"... What about how you feel. Do you feel pleased with yourself when you kill an animal? Do you even think about that fact when you are eating it, or is it just some mysterious "food"?

Do you consider that the lion feels guilty about killing and eating a deer? I rather enjoy cutting into a medium-rare sirloin myself. Makes me 'giddy'.

And the only 'mysterious food' I know of is tofu. Meat and Vegetables certainly don't fall within that category.

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From someone who's done a lot of hunting and fishing, the thrill of the hunt is always better than the kill. I say a little prayer for the animal and am thankful for spending time and harvesting in the great outdoors.

The only thing better than fresh fish on a plate is one on the end of your line.

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Questioner wrote:

Do you consider that the lion feels guilty about killing and eating a deer? I rather enjoy cutting into a medium-rare sirloin myself. Makes me 'giddy'.

And the only 'mysterious food' I know of is tofu. Meat and Vegetables certainly don't fall within that category.

Hey, Questioner...
Well, I am not a lion (surprise), so I don't know. I try not to justify my own actions based on the actions of others.
Feeling giddy about cutting into a steak is pretty understandable. It smells great, especially if you're hungry. But that's what I'm getting at. To most people it's just a "steak". They don't think about the animal, at all. It would not be appetizing to do so.

BTW, I'm with you on the tofu.

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cjhsa--

Why say a prayer for the animal? Is it guilt? You obviously are not too concerned for its well-being.

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echi wrote:

Feeling giddy about cutting into a steak is pretty understandable. It smells great, especially if you're hungry. But that's what I'm getting at. To most people it's just a "steak". They don't think about the animal, at all. It would not be appetizing to do so.

There are numerous things everywhere that if people 'thought' about how such were provided for them they wouldn't partake. I'm not entirely certain as to why you bring this point up at all.

Do you have a motive, or are you merely speculating to stimulate discussion?

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It's a prayer of thanks.

I'm not really religious, but I'm not a cold blooded killer either. Unlike many, I know where my food comes from.

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Questioner wrote:

I'm not entirely certain as to why you bring this point up at all.

Do you have a motive, or are you merely speculating to stimulate discussion?

I just think that most people fail to associate meat-eating with violence. That realization was the main reason that I changed my diet.

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cjhsa--

Is it that you thank God (or the Universe, or whatever) for providing the animal? Is that what you mean?

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echi wrote:

Questioner wrote:
I'm not entirely certain as to why you bring this point up at all.

Do you have a motive, or are you merely speculating to stimulate discussion?

I just think that most people fail to associate meat-eating with violence. That realization was the main reason that I changed my diet.

Ah.

Seems like that association should be a given. Not to harp on it, but the 'lion' example I gave you earlier was an apt example, regardless of whether you dismiss it outright or not.

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