US Kills More Women and Children in Iraq

DITTO. I'm just learning to not answer direct questions from you veterans of not answering direct questions.

You have disregarded the original post. As usual, America has it's blinders on. Can't disrupt the Christmas season with nasty truths, now can we?

You'll have to show me the article about Canadians killing civilians or I consider it more rabble rousing and anti Canadian sentiment. If Canadians did it was definitely not on purpose, laughing the whole time and calling it 'shake and bake time' like US troops. Canadian troops have always been on a peacekeeping mission as much as possible.

Have a day.

It was posted and YOU DID NOT READ IT!!!

HERE'S YOUR POST. I SUGGEST YOU READ THE BOLD AREAS. ACTUALLY, READ THE ENTIRE ARTICLE.

The government categorically denies all suggestions that anything about Canada's involvement in the bombing was illegal. "Canada's actions in Kosovo are completely defensible, both legally and morally," the government says in a recent written submission to the Commons committee.
To back its claim, the government outlined the precautions that were taken before each bombing mission by the 18 Canadian Forces Hornet fighter jets assigned to NATO. Canada, one of the few NATO countries equipped with laser-guided bombs, flew 10 per cent of the alliance's air attacks.

Only five of the 18 NATO countries dropped bombs on Yugoslavia: the United States, Britain, France, Spain and Canada. Ambassadors from all 18 countries set the strategy for the campaign at meetings of the North Atlantic Council in Brussels.
"Every target that NATO attacked was put through a rigorous review procedure to avoid civilian casualties," the government statement says.

In addition, "for every Canadian mission flown, a Canadian Forces legal officer carefully examined the target that had been assigned with a view towards its legitimacy and relevance under Canadian and international legal standards."

If a target assigned by NATO did not meet those standards, the Canadian task force commander refused the target, the statement says, without further elaboration.

"It became very evident to me early on that I had to be fairly careful about what our guys were doing, so I instituted a process whereby the legal staff would look at the targets to make sure the law of armed conflict would not be violated," Col. Davies said.

"The flight lead [pilot] and the lawyer would have a pretty hard look at it to see whether it was a doable target, a legal target, and what the level of collateral risk was."

Col. Davies, who was the Canadian task force commander for the first seven weeks of the air campaign, recalled rejecting a daylight attack on a critical Yugoslav satellite communications facility after examining aerial reconnaissance photos and realizing that there was a large parking lot with civilian cars parked in it. "The risk of collateral damage was extreme."

He persuaded NATO superiors to take the communications facility off the target list for the day. The facility was hit later in a night raid when few, if any, civilian employees were around.

On other occasions he rejected targets that were too close to villages or other civilian structures and "the risk of collateral damage was greater than I was willing to accept," Col. Davies said.

He said he based his calls on the capabilities of his pilots, their aircraft and their munitions.

It was rare, but pilots sometimes made mistakes identifying targets. They might release their bombs and then realize, "Oh my God, this is not the target. This is something else. This is a farm," Col. Davies said. But the smart-bomb technology allowed the pilots to point the laser target "designator" in another direction and steer the bomb off into a field or some other safe place.

This happened 1 or 2 per cent of the time, Col. Davies estimated.

therefore, your point is what? That Canadian pilots did their best to avoid shooting civilians, even when they had to go against what NATO instructed them to do?
This is not even comparable to US troops who actually enjoy the game of 'shake and bake' and I know you know what I'm talking about. Find me an article that says US troops tried as hard as the Canadians to avoid killing civilians. You will find articles that deny 'collateral damage' at all, or minimize it. You should have read the article more critically, as it actually makes the Canadians looks like what they are - peacekeepers and not killers.

why don't you take your tiresome avatar and go play somewhere else? Like ground zero? "NEVER FORGET" what America has done to deserve what they got on 9/11. What goes around, comes around. Never hear ANY of you ask WHY 9/11 happened?! There was a reason, obscured by your free press...........

You have killed over 100,000 women and kids in Iraq. Do you feel like a BIG MAN now? You got the wrong country, dufus. Saudi Arabia was responsible for 9/11, not IRAQ. When will you dummies get that fact into your tiny little brains? Course MOST people know why Bushie won't invade Saudi Arabia. His family does business with them. Geez. How dumb can a country get?

HEY! Israel has WMD's!!!! Let's invade them too!!! (Also I read that choppers sold to them by the US have been found in Colombia doing the drug trade. Nice folks.) Would you like that article too or are you capable of finding it online?

"It was rare, but pilots sometimes made mistakes identifying targets. They might release their bombs and then realize, "Oh my God, this is not the target. This is something else. This is a farm," Col. Davies said. But the smart-bomb technology allowed the pilots to point the laser target "designator" in another direction and steer the bomb off into a field or some other safe place"

In other words, soldiers make mistakes. No Canadian soldier has gone out of their way to kill a civilian.

Unless you have served in the military, which from your statements make me think you have not and never would, you can never realize the fragile life is and how unreliable information is. Only a human being can make a decision as to what is in front of them.

So please continue your hateful commentary and please make sure the next time you see an American soldier, say thanks for helping make your country safe.

She has renounced her citizenship and disowned the US and now lives in Canada (good riddance) . She has made it clear through her America-hating comments that she could care less what happens to the US. She thinks the US got what it deserved on 9/11. ... So I don't think she'll be thanking any soldiers any time soon, woiyo.

here's a reality burger, genius. The US has made the world much LESS safe. Terrorism is on the rise, not decline. Even tho your moron leader says "we got em on the run". Who? Where? Yeah. And he can't find binLaden, a tall guy, in a land of short people. My country is safe, mister, because no one has a reason to hate CANADA. You don't hear 'SATAN CANADA" do you? But you do hear 'SATAN AMERICA". Ever wonder why? When you start investigating those issues then maybe you'll figure out why 9/11 happened. I could care less what happens in America, just as America could care less what happens to Canadians. Except you sure like our 99% oil exports.......and we have the most fresh water on the planet. So you'd best learn to be NICE to us, you might get thirsty.

You fail to make any point at all here. Neither the Bush administration nor the Republican party advocates denying WMD to everyone. We advocate denying it to a very small percentage of countries we consider imminently dangerous or else highly unstable, usually dictatorships. Therefore, you are trying to point out an inconsistency which does not exist.

Englishmajor
You are of the same stripe as Wyio, Tico, and the other conseratives on this site. You have decided that all US citizens are alike. I very much resent being placed in the same mold as Bush and his bunch. I disagreed with the war and the so called reasons for fighting it. But once we went in we became responsible for Iraq and its people. We have to stay untill the reagion is stable. I hate this almost as much as I hate the bush administration. As to killing innocents ill bet that the terror bombers have killed many more Irag innocents than US soilders have but I dont see you condeming them. You are unreasonable in your condemination of only one side of the war. If it is wrong for the US soilders to kill innocents why isent it wrong for Al Queda to kill innocents?

Oh man. Try to think and use your brain.
America invaded a country with NO WMD's. Got that part? Now we can move to the next part.
America knew there were no WMD's BEFORE they went in.
America's goal is not peace and properity and democracy for the Iraqis. That was not the goal upon invading.

It is securing the area for oil production for AMERICA.

It's always about America, isn't it? And you wonder why the world detests Americans.

I don't call Israel a stable country, but they have WMD's. Seems America picks and chooses who it wants to bully.

If you were against the war why weren't you out there protesting, assuming protesting is still legal in fascist America? The fact that over 1/2 Americans voted Bush back in for another term says it all.
You deserve what you accept.

You are hardly the world. Please try not to speak for them.

Then why are the former 'allies' leaving Iraq? Why is it taking longer to get binLaden than it did Hitler? (Oh, sorry, forgot binLaden is a friend of Bush's)

America has no friends. Check it out online. Check it out in newspapers. Take a trip to Europe and ask around.

Do you REALLY think the world condones 3000 dead in the WTC and 2000 dead GI's equal to over 100,000 dead non combatants at the hands of US weapons of mass destruction, including radiated (uranium) warheads and chemical weapons-including WP, used on humans?

Get over yourself. America IS NOT THE WORLD.

yes, let's hear it for world opinion!!

Published on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 by Inter Press Service
Gap Grows Between U.S., World Public Opinion
by Jim Lobe

WASHINGTON - Mistrust of the United States, particularly U.S. President George W. Bush, has grown steadily in western Europe over the past 10 months while anti-American sentiment in the Arab world remains pervasive, says a major new public-opinion poll of nine countries.

Large majorities in each of the eight foreign nations surveyed (the United States was the ninth country) believed Washington pays little or no attention to their country's interests in making its foreign policy decisions, according to the latest report of the four-year-old Pew Global Attitudes Project (GAP) sponsored by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press.

Majorities in five Europe countries also said they believe the continent should chart a more independent course in its foreign policy, while at least two-thirds of respondents in the same countries, with the exception of Britain, agreed it would be a ''good thing'' if the European Union (EU) became as powerful as the United States in order to check Washington's power.

In the four predominantly Muslim countries covered by the survey, anger toward the United States since last May, when GAP last conducted polls there, has dissipated somewhat, but al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden remains broadly popular.

''There is a huge chasm between the Muslim world and us'', noted former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, who chairs GAP and its international advisory board. ''To lessen the gap, we need the unity of the non-Muslim world, and we don't have that unity'', she told reporters Tuesday.

''I find very little in this report that is reassuring, and much of it is very worrying'', added Kurt Campbell, a former assistant secretary of defense who directs the international security program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) here.

''We're starting to see signs (that gaps between the U.S. and its European allies) might in fact be structural.''

The new GAP survey, which was carried out between mid-February and the beginning of March, covered opinions about the United States, the war on terrorism, the war in Iraq and related issues in Britain, France, Germany, Russia, Turkey, Jordan, Morocco and Pakistan, as well as in the United States.

The same countries were also polled in April 2002; on the eve of the U.S.-led Iraq invasion in March 2003, and two months later, in May 2003.

Its release comes in the wake of last Thursday's devastating bombings in Madrid that resulted in the upset victory of Spain's Socialist Party, which has taken a far more critical view of U.S. foreign policy, particularly the Iraq war, than that of the outgoing ruling party headed by Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar, one of Bush's staunchest allies.

Some analysts have suggested the Madrid bombings, the first major terrorist attacks claimed by al-Qaeda in Europe, might actually bring European attitudes closer to those of the Bush administration.

Indeed, countries surveyed by the GAP that have suffered recent terrorist attacks -- Russia, Turkey and Morocco -- were the only ones that saw significant increases in support of U.S. anti-terrorist efforts since May 2003.

But that might be about the only good news the GAP poll offers for the Bush administration.

The survey found little change in opinion on the war in Iraq since last May, when disapproval in the seven countries that did not take part in the invasion hovered around 85 percent. The only exception was in Britain, where those who believed Prime Minister Tony Blair made the right decision in going to war fell from 61 percent to 43 percent.

Doubts about the motives for U.S. military efforts were found to be pervasive in both Europe and the four predominantly Muslim countries.

Majorities in all but the United States and Britain (33 percent) said they believed the Bush administration's main interest is to ''control Mideast oil'', while majorities in five of the countries, including France, said they believe his goals included ''dominat(ing) the world''.

Read more. It's good for your brain.

Hey man, how aboot you go drink a molson and relax, eh??

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Saddam Hussein could have avoided all that by not poisoning the US senate office building with anthrax, couldn't he?

Yeah, Molson tastes like beer. Your American stuff takes like pee.

I am relaxed and well informed about yanks. too bad you're not.
Have a good time, now, and RELAX. Enjoy while you still can before all of your rights go bye bye in fascist America........

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I doubt that, since the antrax attacks were domestic terrorism.

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Anthrax came from the US (Florida I believe). That has already been established. Do a google search or go to your library (you do know where the library is?) It was most likely your own CIA who did it. They are capable of that and much much more. Anyone who said anything against the Iraq war fiasco like Dashiell, (Senator Democratic Leader, got anthraxed. Gee....takes a brain to figure out why, doesn't it? Can't blame it on Saddam The US has plenty of bioterrorist weapons it can use against its own citizens to obtain whatever goal it wants to. America allowed 9/11 to happen; killed its own citizens, so what's a little anthrax to threaten an anti-war Senator?

Facts are facts, nothing more, nothing less. If you can't handle them, stick to My Pet Goat.

Englishmajor
You dident answer my post, just went on another rant. If you want reason and sanity why dont you try some intelligent reasonable dialogue. I dont think ill post to you again unless you answer my post. Unreasonable ranting I can get from others on this site.