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U.S. Lies About Use of Chemical Weapons

 
 
mysteryman
 
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Reply Sat 3 Dec, 2005 09:54 am
blatham wrote:
Yes. Please begin bathing with incendiaries. Get back to me on compliance.


So,are you allowing en exception for water?
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blatham
 
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Reply Sat 3 Dec, 2005 09:55 am
Any rule or exception to it is fine with me so long as I hear you've been bathing in incendiaries.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Sat 3 Dec, 2005 10:00 am
blatham wrote:
Any rule or exception to it is fine with me so long as I hear you've been bathing in incendiaries.


So,I take it that you dont want to discuss the issue?
Why not?
Water does meet the criteria to be listed as a chemical weapon,no matter how much you try to avoid it.
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Stevepax
 
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Reply Sat 3 Dec, 2005 10:30 am
Ok War Hero, I'll take that one. We ARE using water as a weapon. We use it in our torture campaign when we convince prisoners that we are drowning them. Let me spend a few hours with you in a pool, and I'll teach you all about water!!
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Sat 3 Dec, 2005 10:33 am
Stevepax wrote:
Ok War Hero, I'll take that one. We ARE using water as a weapon. We use it in our torture campaign when we convince prisoners that we are drowning them. Let me spend a few hours with you in a pool, and I'll teach you all about water!!


Go for it.
I grew up in San Diego,spent much of my life on the ocean,am a certified diver,and love to swim for recreation.

But,you still are refusing to see the obvious.
Water can be classified as a chemical weapon.
Why wont you at least admit that?
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blatham
 
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Reply Sat 3 Dec, 2005 10:37 am
Water could be classified as a chemical weapon but only in the same manner as how a lightstick can be defined as a pleasureable anal gratifier.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Sat 3 Dec, 2005 10:45 am
blatham wrote:
Water could be classified as a chemical weapon but only in the same manner as how a lightstick can be defined as a pleasureable anal gratifier.


If water is inhaled into the lungs,it can kill.
Just like any airborne poison.

Water is a corrosive chemical,just like most acids.
Granted,it takes longer then most acids,but it is still corrosive.

Water can destroy life and property,just like napalm and other weapons of war.

Granted,I'm talking about flooding,but it can and does happen.
So tell me,how is it not a chemical weapon?
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Stevepax
 
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Reply Sat 3 Dec, 2005 10:47 am
mysteryman wrote:
Stevepax wrote:
Ok War Hero, I'll take that one. We ARE using water as a weapon. We use it in our torture campaign when we convince prisoners that we are drowning them. Let me spend a few hours with you in a pool, and I'll teach you all about water!!


Go for it.
I grew up in San Diego,spent much of my life on the ocean,am a certified diver,and love to swim for recreation.

But,you still are refusing to see the obvious.
Water can be classified as a chemical weapon.
Why wont you at least admit that?


Absolutley War Hero, I'd be glad to if it is used in such a manner. Now where do you want to go with it.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Sat 3 Dec, 2005 10:53 am
Stevepax wrote:
mysteryman wrote:
Stevepax wrote:
Ok War Hero, I'll take that one. We ARE using water as a weapon. We use it in our torture campaign when we convince prisoners that we are drowning them. Let me spend a few hours with you in a pool, and I'll teach you all about water!!


Go for it.
I grew up in San Diego,spent much of my life on the ocean,am a certified diver,and love to swim for recreation.

But,you still are refusing to see the obvious.
Water can be classified as a chemical weapon.
Why wont you at least admit that?


Absolutley War Hero, I'd be glad to if it is used in such a manner. Now where do you want to go with it.


First of all,I am not now nor have I ever been a "war hero".
I dont know why you decide to call me that,but save that for the men and women that actually deserve that title.
I am not one of them,so I am requesting that you not demean that term by calling me that.

Second,I am trying to show that anything can be a chemical weapon,if used in the wrong way.

Yes,I do understand that there are true chemical weapons,and they should be outlawed.
Sadly,they arent.

But,if we use the strict meaning,then police can no longer use tear gas or pepper spray,water must be outlawed because it can be misused,hospitals must stop using lifesaving drugs because they can also be used as weapons,etc.

How far do you want to take it?
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Sat 3 Dec, 2005 11:15 am
I don't think they understand your point, or are playing coy, MM.

It takes a lot of pounding to get things through the liberal melon.
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Stevepax
 
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Reply Sat 3 Dec, 2005 12:13 pm
mysteryman wrote:
Stevepax wrote:
mysteryman wrote:
Stevepax wrote:
Ok War Hero, I'll take that one. We ARE using water as a weapon. We use it in our torture campaign when we convince prisoners that we are drowning them. Let me spend a few hours with you in a pool, and I'll teach you all about water!!


Go for it.
I grew up in San Diego,spent much of my life on the ocean,am a certified diver,and love to swim for recreation.

But,you still are refusing to see the obvious.
Water can be classified as a chemical weapon.
Why wont you at least admit that?


Absolutely War Hero, I'd be glad to if it is used in such a manner. Now where do you want to go with it.


First of all,I am not now nor have I ever been a "war hero".
I don't know why you decide to call me that,but save that for the men and women that actually deserve that title.
I am not one of them,so I am requesting that you not demean that term by calling me that.

Second,I am trying to show that anything can be a chemical weapon,if used in the wrong way.

Yes,I do understand that there are true chemical weapons,and they should be outlawed.
Sadly,they aren't.

But,if we use the strict meaning,then police can no longer use tear gas or pepper spray,water must be outlawed because it can be misused,hospitals must stop using lifesaving drugs because they can also be used as weapons,etc.

How far do you want to take it?


Were talking about WP that burns your holes in your body that go to the bone. It also makes you blind if you get it in your eyes. I don't think water has that property. Even pepper sprays and tear gas don't do that. You talking about a vicious chemical agent that does permanent irreparable damage. You can hardly call WP a lifesaving drug that a hospital uses.

Besides, your beloved Pentagon calls it a chemical weapon. Does that mean anything to you??
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Stevepax
 
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Reply Sat 3 Dec, 2005 12:18 pm
McGentrix wrote:
I don't think they understand your point, or are playing coy, MM.

It takes a lot of pounding to get things through the liberal melon.


I'll give your post the attention it deserves.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Sat 3 Dec, 2005 12:21 pm
Quote:
Were talking about WP that burns your holes in your body that go to the bone. It also makes you blind if you get it in your eyes. I don't think water has that property. Even pepper sprays and tear gas don't do that. You talking about a vicious chemical agent that does permanent irreparable damage. You can hardly call WP a lifesaving drug that a hospital uses.


I have seen firsthand the properties of WP and what it can do.
Have you?

It is a legitimate weapon of war that is in the arsenals of almost every country on earth.

Personally,any weapon that kills the enemy and saves US lives is ok with me.

But if it will make you feel better,the US will only use sticks and stones,ok.
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Stevepax
 
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Reply Sat 3 Dec, 2005 12:55 pm
mysteryman wrote:
Quote:
Were talking about WP that burns your holes in your body that go to the bone. It also makes you blind if you get it in your eyes. I don't think water has that property. Even pepper sprays and tear gas don't do that. You talking about a vicious chemical agent that does permanent irreparable damage. You can hardly call WP a lifesaving drug that a hospital uses.


I have seen firsthand the properties of WP and what it can do.
Have you?

It is a legitimate weapon of war that is in the arsenals of almost every country on earth.

Personally,any weapon that kills the enemy and saves US lives is ok with me.

But if it will make you feel better,the US will only use sticks and stones,ok.


I don't need to see it first hand. I can read.
How about they use it on us, that ok with you too??

Your willingness to use this type of weapon on a human being says everything about you. Everything! I'll bet you're one of those people that just can't understand why other countries hate our guts. I bet it totally escapes you, doesn't it.

I'll go with what I've said several times. Since you think it's fine stuff to use, we should use it on you!
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Stevepax
 
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Reply Sat 3 Dec, 2005 01:02 pm
By the way MM,

You talk about dodging questions, you never answered the one about the Pentagon calling WP a chemical weapon. Does it only count as one if someone else uses it??
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Sat 3 Dec, 2005 01:14 pm
Stevepax wrote:
By the way MM,

You talk about dodging questions, you never answered the one about the Pentagon calling WP a chemical weapon. Does it only count as one if someone else uses it??


Nope,if the pentagon calls it a chemical weapon,thatsa up to them.
I never said it wasnt a chemical weapon.
I said it was a standard weapon of war.

If the enemy wants to use it on us,then thats fine.
I have treated US soldiers before that have been hit by WP,and I know what it does to human skin.

I dont care why other countries claim to hate us.
They still want our money,dont they.

I will say this again,any weapon that inflicts maximum casualties on the enemy and saves American lives is just fine with me (short of nukes,that is).

As a soldier,my job is to engage and destroy enemy forces.
Any weapon that helps me do that is just fine.
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Stevepax
 
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Reply Sat 3 Dec, 2005 01:21 pm
My fervent hope is that you get what you are so willing to give.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Sat 3 Dec, 2005 01:30 pm
Stevepax wrote:
My fervent hope is that you get what you are so willing to give.


As a soldier,that is a risk I am willing to take.
I signed up to take that risk,

And remember this,there are thousands of people all over the world taking that risk,so you dont have to.
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Stevepax
 
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Reply Sat 3 Dec, 2005 02:17 pm
I already took the risk, and paid the price quite heavily, thanks. I'd say if you had gone through the injuries I have, you may not be such a war enthusiast.

Unfortuantely, I took the risks and suffered the injuries on lies, just like the soldiers in Iraq.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Sat 3 Dec, 2005 02:35 pm
Stevepax wrote:
I already took the risk, and paid the price quite heavily, thanks. I'd say if you had gone through the injuries I have, you may not be such a war enthusiast.

Unfortuantely, I took the risks and suffered the injuries on lies, just like the soldiers in Iraq.


I have sufferead the injuries.
Part of my right hand was left in Iraq.
I left it on a bridge over the Tigris river in a little town named Nassiriyah during the Iraq invasion.
I was also wounded in Desert Storm.
I was a navy corpsman with the marines.

I am not a war enthusiast.
I would prefer that there were no wars,ever.
However,if we must fight them,then I want to do whatever is required to win as fast as possible,and to lose as many American and allied forces as possible.

That is why I say that whatever saves US lives in combat situations is ok with me.
I spent to much time trying to save wounded Marines to give up any weapon that will save them from wounds.
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