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Reply Fri 11 Nov, 2005 06:23 pm
The questions-

Who is Osama Bin Laden?

Who Is Osama Bin Laden? by Michel Chossudovsky, 12 Sep 2001
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO109C.html
"OSAMAGATE" by Michel Chossudovsky, 9 Oct 2001
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO110A.html


Who created and funded the Al Qaeda Network?

A Vital Piece of the Puzzle: Dollars for Terror -- The United States and Islam, by Carol Brouillet
http://www.communitycurrency.org/vital.html


What is the relationship between Bin Laden, his family, the Carlyle Group and the Bush family?

Osama bin Laden's Bush family Business Connections, Alliance With Pakistan Will Stimulate Drug Trade, Bring Revenues Under U.S. Control -- Colombian Opium Production Will Soar; The Taliban's Biggest Economic Attack on the U.S. Came in February With The Destruction of Its Opium Crop by Michael C. Ruppert, 18 Sept 2001
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/09_18_01_bushbin.html
Carlyle profit from Afghan war, by David Lazarus, 2 Dec 2001
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/LAZ112A.html
Above the Law--Bush's Racial Coup D'Etat and Intell Shutdown, Interview with Greg Palast
http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=109&row=1
Elder Bush in Big G.O.P. Cast Toiling for Top Equity Firm, by Leslie Wayne, 5 Mar 2001
http://www.truthout.org/docs_01/0662.Bush.Saudi.htm
The George W. Bush Money Tree, from www.bushwatch.com
http://www.bushnews.com/bushmoney.htm
Bush Family's dirty little secret: President's oil companies funded by Bin Laden family and wealthy Saudis who financed Osama bin Laden, by Rick Wiles, Sep 2001
http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/bush_binladen.html
Arms Buildup Enriches Carlyle Group, Bush Sr. is Consultant, by Mark Fineman, 10 Jan 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_01/01.11F.Arms.Carlyle.p.htm


Why were no fighter planes dispatched to intercept the four hijacked planes on September 11th?


Scrambled Messages, by George Szamuely, 12 Dec 2001
http://www.nypress.com/14/50/taki/bunker.cfm
Guilty For 9-11: Bush, Rumsfeld, Myers, by Illarion Bykov and Jared Israel, 14 Nov 2001
http://emperors-clothes.com/indict/indict-1.htm
Mr. Cheney's Cover Story -- Section 2 of Guilty For 9-11, 20 Nov 2001
http://emperors-clothes.com/indict/indict-2.htm
9-ll: Nothing Urgent, by George Szamuely, Research & documentation by Illarion Bykov and Jared Israel, Jan 2002
http://emperor.vwh.net/indict/urgent.htm
Guilty for 9-11 Section 3: Bush in the Open
http://emperors-clothes.com/indict/indict-3.htm


Who actually was in control of the "hijacked planes"?


Operation 911: NO SUICIDE PILOTS, by Carol A. Valentine October 6, 2002
http://www.public-action.com/911/robotplane.html
Did NORAD Send The "Suicide" Jets?, Part 1- An Inside Job, by Carol A. Valentine February 23, 2002
http://www.public-action.com/911/noradsend.html
Did NORAD Send The "Suicide" Jets?, Part 2- The Dumb Blondes, by Carol A. Valentine February 25, 2002
http://www.public-action.com/911/noradsend2.html
Flight of the Bumble Planes,by Snake Plissken as told to Carol A. Valentine, March, 2002
http://www.public-action.com/911/bumble.html
Ghost Riders in the Sky- An Alternative Scenario by A.K. Dewdnet, June 30, 2002
http://www.sumeria.net/politics/bushknew/ghostriders.html

What role did Pakistani Intelligence play on September 11th?

Cover-up or Complicity of the Bush Administration? The Role of Pakistan's Military Intelligence (ISI) in the September 11 Attacks by Michel Chossudovsky, 2 Nov 2001
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO111A.html


Did the CIA have foreknowledge of the attack, who tried to profit with put options on American, United, Merrill Lynch... stock just before the attack?

Suppresed Details of Criminal Insider Trading Lead Directly Into The CIA's Highest Ranks -- CIA Executive Director `Buzzy' Krongard Managed Firm That Handled `Put' Options on UAL, by Michael C. Ruppert, 9 Oct 2001
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/10_09_01_krongard.html
Mystery of terror `insider dealers', by Chris Blackhurst, 14 Oct 2001
http://www.independent.co.uk/story.jsp?story=99402
Profits of Death -- Insider Trading and 9-11, by Tom Flocco - Edited by Michael C. Ruppert, 6 Dec 2001
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/12_06_01_death_profits_pt1.html


Why were the FBI told to not investigate the Bin Laden family links in the US?

Has someone been sitting on the FBI? Transcript of a BBC Newsnight Report on "the questionable links of the bin Laden Family," 6 Nov 2001
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/BBC111A.html
Bush thwarted FBI probe against bin Ladens, Hindustan Times, 7 Nov 2001
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/HIN111A.html
US efforts to make peace summed up by `oil', by Lara Marlowe, 19 Nov 2001
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/MAR111A.html


If the CIA met with Bin Laden last July, why didn't they try to arrest him?


The CIA met Bin Laden while undergoing treatment at an American Hospital last July in Dubai, by Alexandra Richard, Translated courtesy of Tiphaine Dickson, Le Figaro, 11 Oct 2001
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/RIC111B.html


If the US is serious about ridding the world of terrorism, why do we continue to fund and train terrorists?


U.S. Protects Al-Qaeda Terrorists in Kosovo, by Umberto Pascali, 2 Nov 2001
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/PAS111A.html
US efforts to make peace summed up by `oil', by Lara Marlowe, 19 Nov 2001
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/MAR111A.html


Should the United States Renounce Terrorism?


Should the United States Renounce Terrorism? Richard Heinberg, November 2001
http://www.museletter.com/archive/117.html


IF THE CIA AND THE GOVERNMENT WEREN'T INVOLVED IN THE SEPTEMBER 11 ATTACKS, WHAT WERE THEY DOING?


A Timeline Surrounding September 11th, by Michael Ruppert, 27 Nov 2001
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/02_11_02_lucy.html


Why are we bombing Afghanistan, when none of the alleged bombers actually came from there, could there be another reason for our presence in that region, like oil?


A War in the Planning for Four Years, by Michael Ruppert, Nov 2001
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/RUP111B.html
The Political Diary #4-Pipe Dreams, #5-The Complicity Connection, Joyce Lynn, January 3, 2002
http://www.topica.com/lists/politicaldiary (click on Read This List to find #4 & #5)
India in anti-Taliban military plan- India and Iran will "facilitate" planned US-Russia hostilities against the Taliban, June 26, 2001
http://www.indiareacts.com/archivefeatures/nat2.asp?recno=10&ctg=
US 'planned attack on Taleban'BBC- George Arney, September 18, 2001
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/south_asia/newsid_1550000/1550366.stm
War on Terror Masks Bush's Grand Strategy, Eric Margolis, March 10, 2002
http://www.converge.org.nz/pma/cra0229.htm
Keep Your Eye on the Target, Congressman Ron Paul, House of Representatives, 29 Nov 2001
http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2001/cr112901.htm
Hidden Agenda Behind War On Terror, by John Pilger, Nov 2001
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/PIL111B.html
Guns, Drugs, and Oil: The Real Politik of the Afghan War, by Ed Rippy December 30, 2001
http://erippy.home.mindspring.com/Guns,_Drugs,_and_Oil_Part_1.html
TESTIMONY BY JOHN J. MARESCA, VP of Unocal, TO HOUSE COMMITTEE, FEBRUARY 12, 1998
http://www.sumeria.net/politics/maresca.html
Afghanistan, the Taliban and the Bush Oil Team, by Wayne Madsen, January 2002
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/MAD201A.html
THE ROVING EYE- Pipelineistan, Part 1: The rules of the game, By Pepe Escobar 1/25/02
http://www.atimes.com/c-asia/DA25Ag01.html
THE ROVING EYE- Pipelineistan, Part 2: The games nations play,By Pepe Escobar 1 26/02
http://www.atimes.com/c-asia/DA26Ag01.html


Is this war illegal?


A Coup Against the American Constitution, Interview with Francis Boyle, 14 Nov 2001
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/BOY111C.html




When will the FBI, the CIA and the National Security Agency start to turn their new powers (that they have under the Ashcroft police state bill) against American citizens?


No War Against Afghanistan! Professor Francis Boyle November 30, 2001
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/BOY111C.html

The USA PATRIOT Act: What's So Patriotic About Trampling on the Bill of Rights?
by Nancy Chang, Senior Litigation Attorney for the Center for Constitutional Rights, November 2001

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/USAPAanalyze.html

Bush's new Department of Homeland Defense: the scaffolding of a police state, June 8, 2002

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2002/jun2002/bush-j08_prn.shtml

For historical background on this see-



Homeland Insecurity, by Douglas Valentine, 15 Nov 2001

Homeland Insecurity Part I: Phoenix, Chaos, The Enterprise, and the Politics of Terror in America
http://www.counterpunch.org/homeland1.html
Homeland Insecurity Part II: Phoenix And The Anatomy Of Terror
http://www.counterpunch.org/homeland2.html
Homeland Insecurity Part III: Chaos And Political Terrorism In America
http://www.counterpunch.org/homeland3.html
Homeland Insecurity Part IV: The Terrorism Account Goes Underground
http://www.counterpunch.org/homeland4.html
Homeland Insecurity Part V: The Turning Point
http://www.counterpunch.org/homeland5.html
Homeland Insecurity Part VI: The Counter-Terror Network
http://www.counterpunch.org/homeland6.html
Homeland Insecurity Part VII: The Last Decade
http://www.counterpunch.org/homeland7.html
Homeland Insecurity Footnotes
http://www.counterpunch.org/homeland8.html
Flight of the Phoenix:
From Vietnam to Homeland Security- An Open Letter to Maj. Gen. Bruce Lawlor, August 25, 2002
http://www.counterpunch.org/valentine0824.html



What are Bush's, Cheney's and Rice's connections to the oil industry?


The United States of Oil No administration has ever been more in bed with the energy industry -- but does that mean Big Oil is calling Bush's shots? by Damien Caveli, 19 Nov 2001
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/CAV111A.html



What are Bush's and Cheney's connections to the drug industry?


Halliburton Corporation's Brown and Root is one of the major components of The Bush-Cheney Drug Empire, by Michael C. Ruppert, 24 Oct 2001
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ciadrugs/bush-cheney-drugs.html


Has the US government ever thought to mislead the public to justify a war against another country?


Friendly Fire -- Book: U.S. Military Drafted Plans to Terrorize U.S. Cities to Provoke War With Cuba, by David Ruppe, 1 May 2001
http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/us-provoke-cuba.htm
Pentagon Proposed Pretexts for Cuba Invasion in 1962, The National Security Archive, 30 Apr 2001
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/


Who was responsible for the Anthrax attacks, and why were Democrats and the media the targets?


The US Secret Bioweapons Program, by Michel Chossudovsky, 28 Nov 2001
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO111D.html
Anthrax attacks' `work of neo-Nazis', by Ed Vulliamy, 28 Oct 2001
http://www.observer.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,582222,00.html
Anthrax attacks 14/3/02 BBC News, Susan Watts
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/audiovideo/programmes/newsnight/archive/newsid_1873000/1873368.stm


Why is the evidence being destroyed when an investigation of the World Trade Center collapse is needed?


"Burning Questions...Need Answers": Fire Engineering's Bill Manning Calls for Comprehensive Investigation of WTC Collapse, 4 Jan 2002
http://fe.pennnet.com/Articles/Article_Display.cfm?Section=OnlineArticles&SubSection=Display&PUBLICATION_ID=25&ARTICLE_ID=131225
Muslims Suspend the Laws of Physics!by J. McMichael November 25, 2001
http://www.public-action.com/911/jmcm/physics_1.html


Why seal Presidential records? Why intimidate professors from speaking out against this war?


Bush Clamping Down On Presidential Papers- Incumbent Could Lock Up Predecessor's Records,George Lardner Jr., Washington Post 11/1/2001
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A20731-2001Oct31
Lynne Cheney-Joe Lieberman Group Puts Out a Blacklist, by Roberto J. Gonzalez, 13 Dec 2001
http://globalresearch.ca/articles//GON112A.html
The New Totalitarianism -- Why there a War in Afghanistan? by John McMurtry, 9 Dec 2001
http://globalresearch.ca/articles//MCM112A.html
Decoding 9-11, by John McMurty June 2002
http://www.globalresearch.org/view_article.php?aid=824909340
Intimidation Is a Form of Censorship, By Norah Vincent, 8 Nov 2001
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/VIN111A.html
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Now, America, you can't say you haven't got enough information!! :wink:
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Mills75
 
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Reply Sat 12 Nov, 2005 11:10 pm
Unfortunately, this information won't get much play in the primary news media. (Not suprisingly, just unfortunately.)
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Sat 12 Nov, 2005 11:13 pm
I'll get back to you in 5 or 6 weeks. After I have had an opportunity to visit every site and find out what we are talking about.
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englishmajor
 
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Reply Sat 12 Nov, 2005 11:16 pm
Yes, it's a bit overwhelming! I just picked a few that I am currently interested in. I figure if I pick a few a week, I might get done by the end of the year.....seriously, though, there is good stuff here.
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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 12 Nov, 2005 11:21 pm
Wow! A year's reading! Shocked

Could you kind of briefly explain the gist of your argument? I'm certain that I'll never get through all that.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 12 Nov, 2005 11:24 pm
It goes like this: Bush is to blame for 911, and everything else. The US govt faked the anthrax attacks and 911 to give Bush and the evil Karl Rove the impetus to turn the US into a Hitler's Germany.

I think that's about it.
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englishmajor
 
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Reply Sat 12 Nov, 2005 11:25 pm
Geez....the gist.....can you scroll down, msolga, and sort of figure that out yourself! It's about everything from 9/11 to the war in Iraq, Cheney and Bush's involvement with the Carlyle Group, Halliburton (Cheney's $$ maker due to the war), Bush/Cheney's connection with drugs.....stuff that has been questioned - well, now you can look at the site and decide if you agree or not. I just think most Americans have not gotten the full story...so here's an opportunity to check out some stories for yourselves. You deserve that much - the media certainly won't tell you anything!
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 12 Nov, 2005 11:27 pm
I left out the drugs.
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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 12 Nov, 2005 11:28 pm
Thanks for the explanation, englishmajor. I might make this thread my after hours hobby! :wink:
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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 12 Nov, 2005 11:29 pm
Lash wrote:
It goes like this: Bush is to blame for 911, and everything else. The US govt faked the anthrax attacks and 911 to give Bush and the evil Karl Rove the impetus to turn the US into a Hitler's Germany.

I think that's about it.


Oh, THAT stuff! Thanks, Lash! Very Happy
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Sat 12 Nov, 2005 11:30 pm
Lash wrote:
I left out the drugs.


What you do on your own time is your business.
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englishmajor
 
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Reply Sat 12 Nov, 2005 11:35 pm
Come on, Lash, you can't be THAT innocent! You must have heard news reports about the Carlyle Group? That's fact, not rumour! Do you really think Bush, Cheney, Rove, Rummy, Rice, Wolfowitz, Pearlman are innocent of all crimes? Naw. No one could be that naive......I think you jest. Many of the links above are from very valid sources. You can't toss the baby out with the bathwater......if you are so certain of your assertions then it should not bother you to read some of the links. I challenge you! Double dog dare you!
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 12 Nov, 2005 11:38 pm
Intrepid wrote:
I'll get back to you in 5 or 6 weeks. After I have had an opportunity to visit every site and find out what we are talking about.


What you do on your own time is your business.
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I've read this crap--it's quite old.

Why don't you read something a bit more recent, by a better source...the 911 Commission Report.
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englishmajor
 
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Reply Sat 12 Nov, 2005 11:52 pm
Lash - don't lash out so!

Have you really read all 500+ pages of the 9/11 Commission Report? I'm impressed. However, it is all one-sided, of course. A balanced view, one that takes in more than just America's perspective, must be considered.

To label all of those websites crap, including the ones from BBC, is silly and naive. Possibly Americans don't really WANT to know what's going on. They couldn't stop it anyway.

If you've read the Comm. Report then hopefully you've read the Patriot Act? Anything but! Bye bye Bill of Rights for Americans.......

Anyway Lash you are under no obligation to read any of the websites posted, of course. But don't let your mind wander........it's too small to be out by itself and might get lost.....
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englishmajor
 
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Reply Sat 12 Nov, 2005 11:57 pm
Never saw Bush taking any blame on the Reports, why? He is the Commander in Chief is he not? Yet he is blameless? Reading -My Pet Goat to kids while Americans died?

I heard his presidential library burned down. Lost both his books....too sad........

You know, the world is trying to tell America but they refuse to listen. You are running illegal prison camps holding supposed 'terrorists' that the Red Cross can't get into. Is this America? America's reputation on the international scene is scoring a big fat zero. What's with all the apathy? What happened to all those protestors in the 60's? Are you entering the Brave New World phase, or what?
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2005 01:46 am
englishmajor wrote:
Lash - don't lash out so!
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Very original.

Have you really read all 500+ pages of the 9/11 Commission Report? I'm impressed. However, it is all one-sided, of course. A balanced view, one that takes in more than just America's perspective, must be considered.
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Nah. It's about Americans, for Americans, by Americans. If Canada wants to investigate the CIA et al, I don't think you'll get too far.

To label all of those websites crap, including the ones from BBC, is silly and naive. Possibly Americans don't really WANT to know what's going on. They couldn't stop it anyway.
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The main stories that have been regurgitated ad nauseum here and everywhere else are crap. You know you had some fruity links to completely biased sources.

If you've read the Comm. Report then hopefully you've read the Patriot Act? Anything but! Bye bye Bill of Rights for Americans.......
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It's so touching that you're so worried about American's rights. Don't worry, though. I haven't lost any rights
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Anyway Lash you are under no obligation to read any of the websites posted, of course. But don't let your mind wander........it's too small to be out by itself and might get lost.....
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Good God, that was lame. Google "Comebacks are us," or something.
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englishmajor
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2005 03:56 pm
So arrogant, aren't you?
Sorry, I'm not worried about the Americans. I do feel a bit ashamed of their stupidity, though. Seems they should be more aware of what's going on.
Haven't lost any of your rights? You really think so? Try protesting with a "Bush Sucks" T-shirt by the White House. You won't even have to say a word. They will arrest your behind. Oh yes, I forgot, one can't even get close to the White House anymore. The robo cops keep you away.......I bet you feel safe, though, knowing Homeland Sec. can check into your medical history, your library card history, your financial history, etc. Thanks to that Patriot Act that Georgie lovingly pushed through before anyone had a chance to read it.
I guess you know all about Bush and Cheney and their drug connections, and the Bush family connection with bin Laden family?
Thanks for the suggestion, but I'll let you use google comebacks r us, or whatever it is. Seems you are a typical American, blinders firmly in place. Ever read the history of Rome?
Pax Americana.
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Acquiunk
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2005 04:28 pm
To address one question:
Why were no fighter planes dispatched?


" So why were no fighters dispatched to intercept planes on an extraordinary day like Sept. 11? Within days the story changed and it turned out that two F-15 fighters had in fact been scrambled from Otis Air National Guard Base in Cape Cod, MA. Whether this took place before or after the first tower was struck is not clear. In any case it was too late to make a difference. When the second tower was hit the fighters were still 70 miles from Manhattan."

http://www.nypress.com/14/50/taki/bunker.cfm

Up until 9/11 all the US defenses pointed outward on the long standing assumption that threats to the country came from without not within. There has been a long-standing prejudice in this country against large active military presence within the country as it might be dangerous and destructive of the liberties citizens enjoyed. In the 19th century the military was intentionally under financed for just this reason. The lack of available aircraft for internal defense reflected the mindset of the nation not some intentional plot to leave the nation defenseless. I for my part would like to see a return to that mindset. The Patriot Act is but one example of a number of actions that reflect a growing worldview of fear and paranoia that will if allowed to continue will destroy the liberties we have enjoyed for over two hundred years.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2005 04:58 pm
Englishmajor,

You know, just when I think we have seen the softer, gentler side of you, you come out with this. I guess if you would just state, "I hate America. I hate Americans. I hate George Bush, etc." I would find you a bit more credible on this topic. Now, maybe hate isn't the word you would use, but the fact is, that is the message I know I am getting.

And, I believe about as much of that stuff you listed as I do the website that supposedly proves no airplane flew into the Pentagon on 9/11.

If you don't like America, fine. Don't live here. Live where you want. But, you are going to have to understand that people in America might get a big upset with some of your characterizations of us.

None of us have 100% of the answers 100% of the time.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2005 08:15 pm
englishmajor wrote:
So arrogant, aren't you?
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Not at all. People generally respond similarly when someone insults them. Continue trying it out and see for yourself.

Sorry, I'm not worried about the Americans. I do feel a bit ashamed of their stupidity, though. Seems they should be more aware of what's going on.
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If buying your insane tripe from psychotic foaming mouth liberal sites is what you consider informed...LOL!!! Aren't you really embarrassed by most of that dreck? Do you have Captain Kirk pajamas?

Haven't lost any of your rights? You really think so? Try protesting with a "Bush Sucks" T-shirt by the White House. You won't even have to say a word. They will arrest your behind. Oh yes, I forgot, one can't even get close to the White House anymore. The robo cops keep you away.......I bet you feel safe, though, knowing Homeland Sec. can check into your medical history, your library card history, your financial history, etc. Thanks to that Patriot Act that Georgie lovingly pushed through before anyone had a chance to read it.
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They read it and approved it---TWICE. Lame.

I guess you know all about Bush and Cheney and their drug connections, and the Bush family connection with bin Laden family?
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You've got the inside story on that, do you, Scoop?
Thanks for the suggestion, but I'll let you use google comebacks r us, or whatever it is. Seems you are a typical American, blinders firmly in place. Ever read the history of Rome?
Pax Americana.
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Sounds like jealousy to me. And REALLY OLD references that passed through here a year or two ago. Do catch up.
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