Dear Laura Bush:

I don't need a link, spendius. My brother is a General in the army and I talk to him a couple of times a week.

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"Our boys" in the desert would by and large regurgitate what they think their superiors want to hear. the occasional one or two would tell you the war is stupid, but most serve pretty mindlessly. Sad, but true.

What a bunch of drivel. You obviously don't think highly of the military, and can't fathom that there are those who believe in what they are fighting for. Pathetic.

I think highly enough of it that if I am in a unit that gets called, I would go and fight. that's highly enough. and the opinion I hold about the level of thoughtfulness of the average Joe in the Army, I get from experience. Go 'drivel' that.

...any tribesmen...

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I doubt that a letter by a poet is going to undermine morale much.

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I doubt that a letter by a poet is going to undermine morale much.

Well that's nice.You doubt it do you.How reassuring.
It looked like a crusade in the bud to me.Mr Bush's supporters are hardly likely to buy poetry of that nature.

It was a gesture.Why go public?And in that way?One could easily have declined the invitation with thanks and presented a feeble enough excuse to leave nobody concerned in any doubt of the real reason and left it at that.Any poet could handle such a simple task.

Not a poet with a political message, spendi.

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Yeah I know Tico.I read some.Real "put some backbone into the nation " stuff it is too.

It's political alright.

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I doubt that a letter by a poet is going to undermine morale much.

Well that's nice.You doubt it do you.How reassuring.

It looked like a crusade in the bud to me.Mr Bush's supporters are hardly likely to buy poetry of that nature.

It was a gesture.Why go public?And in that way?One could easily have declined the invitation with thanks and presented a feeble enough excuse to leave nobody concerned in any doubt of the real reason and left it at that.Any poet could handle such a simple task.

Well,one would expect a general to have higher ideals.I wasn't meaning generals.And people speaking to generals,as snood says,do tend to be well behaved at the time.

Your brother has my best wishes.You might ask him what he thinks of the letter to Mrs Bush and tell him not to play cards with any tribesmen without his body armour on.They are bad losers.

snood wrote:

Ticomaya wrote:

snood wrote:

"Our boys" in the desert would by and large regurgitate what they think their superiors want to hear. the occasional one or two would tell you the war is stupid, but most serve pretty mindlessly. Sad, but true.

What a bunch of drivel. You obviously don't think highly of the military, and can't fathom that there are those who believe in what they are fighting for. Pathetic.

I think highly enough of it that if I am in a unit that gets called, I would go and fight. that's highly enough. and the opinion I hold about the level of thoughtfulness of the average Joe in the Army, I get from experience. Go 'drivel' that.

It appears you're suggesting that because you are not thoughtful, the average Joe in the Army is not thoughtful. Well, that certainly does sound like the thinking of a person who is not thoughtful. You have made a point ... perhaps not the one you intended, but a point nonetheless.

and btw sturgis old girl, no one had more zap than Hitler... so if we are nazis by association for admiring this girls letter, you must surely be a nazi by association for admiring all that zap.

My assertion is certainly no more stoopid than yours.

And why are you in such a twist about it?

We've talked about things similar to this letter over the years and I have a pretty good idea that he would think she has a right to her opinion and to scream it from any street corner she wants.

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And so do I.An invitation from Mrs Bush is not a street corner.
Suit yourself on the cards thing.

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But even a cursory glance at any statistic source tells the story. Only a few stalwart, very studiously ignorant can't see the folly in this war.

Folly or not we are in it.What do you suggest?

Tico, I think you are being studiously unfair to Snood. He was speaking of the opinions -- or lack thereof -- of the soldiers he comes into contact with daily, not of his own opinons. (He has expressed his own opinions quite lucidly both on this thread, as well as on others.) I admit it's more than 30 years since my own time in the army, but Snood's description of the mindset of the average GI rings quite true. A few have actual opinions of their own; the others practice 'group-think.' Come to think of it, that probably fairly accurately reflects the mindset of most civilians as well. Apart from those of us who post on boards such as this, how many Americans are actually capable of original thought? They echo what they have heard the media tell them.

I didn't reali\e our boys in the desert comprised all soldiers in the US military. I also could have sworn we had some girls there too.