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Political poster association experiment

 
 
nimh
 
Reply Sat 29 Oct, 2005 11:09 am
This is a famous historical Dutch political poster. I'll explain later (dont look it up now). But first, I want to know: what are your associations with it? What do you think it was meant to convey? What would you say it conveys now?

Link to poster

EDIT: Well, the first association in cross-cultural context is in already: I've been politely asked to convert the image above into a link... <stares>

Imagine: it was on public, government-funded poster boards, along with posters of the other parties, around the country!
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Sturgis
 
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Reply Sat 29 Oct, 2005 02:45 pm
My first thought was "free the cows and free your body" I have no idea what it is meant to convey other than it seems to be saying something about freedom...my take only. As to how something like that might effect a vote, I need more information.
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Piffka
 
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Reply Sat 29 Oct, 2005 03:07 pm
That's a HUGE cow. (Honest to god, that was my first thought.)

I guess you're asking if the nudity is offensive. No but it seems gratuitious which translates into silly in my books.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 29 Oct, 2005 03:22 pm
Een lekker meisje en een Holstein koe.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Sat 29 Oct, 2005 03:29 pm
Got milk?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 29 Oct, 2005 03:40 pm
Well, since I can translate that Dutch word, since I know that party ...

However, the cow confuses me a bit.
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Mills75
 
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Reply Sat 29 Oct, 2005 03:57 pm
Free love...




























...with livestock.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Sat 29 Oct, 2005 04:04 pm
BBB
Two milk producers. One human female; one bovine.

BBB
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Sat 29 Oct, 2005 06:22 pm
NIMH wrote:
EDIT: Well, the first association in cross-cultural context is in already: I've been politely asked to convert the image above into a link... <stares>

Imagine: it was on public, government-funded poster boards, along with posters of the other parties, around the country!



We're puritanical prudes that way.
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goodfielder
 
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Reply Sun 30 Oct, 2005 02:30 am
There was a cow?
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Sturgis
 
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Reply Sun 30 Oct, 2005 05:40 am
goodfielder wrote:
There was a cow?




yeah in back of the... never mind I'm not allowing you to view that one anymore Smile .
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squinney
 
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Reply Sun 30 Oct, 2005 07:33 am
First thought:

Holy cow, what was that woman thinking?
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Sun 30 Oct, 2005 07:40 am
a liberated, free woman, probably likes it in the butt.....
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nimh
 
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Reply Sun 30 Oct, 2005 10:36 am
LMAO!

OK this thread was worth posting. You people are hilarious.

The cow thing really got ya, huh? Razz
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Mills75
 
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Reply Sun 30 Oct, 2005 11:26 am
Are you going to let us know what the poster is really about? (assuming it's not a government promotional of beastiality as a means of birth control)
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 30 Oct, 2005 11:32 am
Well, I suppose it's something about ... disarmament.
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Mills75
 
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Reply Sun 30 Oct, 2005 11:41 am
Disarmament?! Shocked
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 30 Oct, 2005 12:02 pm
Mills75 wrote:
Disarmament?! Shocked


Well, your Dutch might certainly be better than mine, but I thought that this would be the meaning.

nimh surely will tell us ...

(As far as I remeber, the extreme left had similar posters here as well - at least, most in my univerity at that time looked the same [although less cows but more of the ...])
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nimh
 
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Reply Sun 30 Oct, 2005 12:07 pm
Mills75 wrote:
Are you going to let us know what the poster is really about?

Yes, yes, yes, and also I'll tell you what was said about it just recently that brought this poster back up again. But right now, I'm going to be kicked out of this internet cafe if I stay any longer: it's closing time!
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nimh
 
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Reply Sun 30 Oct, 2005 12:33 pm
Hey! They're open another hour (or well, 50 mins, because I was already late). Cool.

OK, so I'll explain. First, the who and what.

The election poster linked in this thread is from 1972. It was the election poster that year of the PSP: the Pacifist Socialist Party.

The word at the bottom of the poster thus, indeed, as Walter said already, mean "DISARMAMENT".

The PSP was a small, but influential party of mostly intellectuals and students, though it also appealed to the unemployed.

It was founded in 1957 out of protest against the Cold War. PSP'ers were famously principled and independent-minded, and up till the early 80s distanced themselves as determinedly from the (then still unreformed) Communist Party as from 'bourgeois', capitalist parties.

In the early 70s, though, the party did open up to alliances with the parties to its right: the much larger Labour Party as well as other small radical democrat parties like the Democrats 66 and the leftwing-christian (and environmentalist) Radical Party.

The PSP was consistently represented in Dutch parliament from 1959 to 1989, but never with more than 4 seats. That is to say: it oscillated between a mere 1% and 3% of the vote throughout.

It was, nevertheless, quite hip and alternative to vote for the PSP. The cliche PSP'er transformed from a principled Socialist in turtleneck sweater in the early sixties, to a bearded intellectual in the mid-Seventies, to a post-punk squatter type in the early eighties. The party was always very active in extraparliamentarian movements.

The above also meant an influx of 'back-to-nature' environmentalists in the late sixties/early seventies, and of feminists from the hippie era into the eighties.

After the revival of the party in the anti-nuke days of the early 80s was followed by a new slump in 1986, the party finally merged with the radicals, leftist evangelicals and now-reformed communists into the Green Left. A tiny minority of the hardcore faithful soldiered on in a "Party for Socialism and Disarmament", later "PSP '92", without much success.
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