revel wrote:Me and Tico went round this Clinton lying under oath a million times. In the end, the only way he actually might have lied was saying that he didn't know if Monica was ever alone with him in the oval office, which he might not have known since someone could have been around somewhere and he might not have seen him/her, and then later he admitted that she did come alone once. The part about the denying sexual relations was not a lie since under the Paula Jones court definition; oral sex was not considered intimate relations. This is why he was never charged with perjury, because he never legally outright lied.
I know you're having difficulty remembering the details, revel, so allow me to refresh your memory about Clinton's lies. It's really no bother ....
When Clinton was asked, "
At any time were you and Monica Lewinsky alone together in the Oval Office?", his response was, "
I don't recall ..."
Clinton was careful not to make an outright denial, and instead he responded that he remembered one or two times when Lewinsky came to drop off some papers for him in the Oval Office. This was apparently true, because Monica did go to the Oval Office and brought some papers. But he failed to mention that she did more than just drop off some papers. Oh, and it develops that they were alone like
10 to 15 times.
Let's not forget this exchange during his deposition:
Quote:Q. Certainly if it happened, nothing remarkable would have occurred?
A. No, nothing remarkable. I don't remember it.
In his January 17, 1998, sworn deposition in the Paula Jones sexual harassment lawsuit, Clinton swore under oath as follows:
Quote:Q. At any time were you and Monica Lewinsky alone together in the Oval Office?
A. I don't recall (BS), but as I said, when she worked at the legislative affairs office, they always had somebody there on the weekends. I typically worked some on the weekends. Sometimes they'd bring me things on the weekends. She - it seems to me she brought things to me once or twice on the weekends. In that case, whatever time she would be in there, drop it off, exchange a few words and go, she was there. I don't have any specific recollections of what the issues were, what was going on, but when the Congress is there, we're working all the time, and typically I would do some work on one of the days of the weekends in the afternoon.
Q. So I understand, your testimony is that it was possible, then, that you were alone with her, but you have no specific recollection of that ever happening?
A. Yes, that's correct. (BS) It's possible that she, in, while she was working there, brought something to me and that at the time she brought it to me, she was the only person there. That's possible.
. . .
Q. Have you ever met with Monica Lewinsky in the White House between the hours of midnight and six a.m.?
A. I certainly don't think so.
Q. Have you ever met -
A. Now, let me just say, when she was working there, during, there may have been a time when we were all - we were up working late. There are lots of, on any given night, when the Congress is in session, there are always several people around until late in the night, but I don't have any memory of that. I just can't say that there could have been a time when that occurred, I just - but I don't remember it. (BS)
Q. Certainly if it happened, nothing remarkable would have occurred?
A. No, nothing remarkable. I don't remember it. (BS)
. . .
Q. Did you have an extramarital sexual affair with Monica Lewinsky?
A. No. (BS)
Q. If she told someone that she had a sexual affair with you beginning in November of 1995, would that be a lie?
A. It's certainly not the truth. It would not be the truth. (BS)
Q. I think I used the term "sexual affair." And so the record is completely clear, have you ever had sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky, as that term is defined in Deposition Exhibit 1, as modified by the Court.
. . .
A. I have never had sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky. I've never had an affair with her.
(Note: "
(BS)" stands for "intentionally misleading.")
