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Atheists... Your life is pointless

 
 
Chumly
 
  1  
Thu 10 Jul, 2008 12:25 am
Excellent sig btw!
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neologist
 
  1  
Thu 10 Jul, 2008 01:19 am
Steve 41oo wrote:
neologist wrote:
You really believe that the kings of history fell for the BS that was handed to the masses? Perhaps some did, but for most, the priests were a cohabitation of convenience.
No they used the bs that was handed to the masses.
I don't think we are that far apart here.
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Jangles17
 
  2  
Wed 1 Oct, 2008 08:57 pm
Life is extremely pointless.
We're here by a HUGE coincidence, no one will ever know how the hell we got here, and we shouldn't waste our lives trying to figure it out. God was made up to scare people into behaving and to give them something to live for, then people realized that if the afterlife was so good, why not just commit suicide? Well, to solve this problem, they made Hell, and if you're "bad" or kill yourself, you spend eternity in a fiery pit of worst nightmares, but god LOVES you. Bullshit, AND the other reason "God" was made up was to explain where things came from, like every ancient civilization made myths to explain things such as the sun. It pisses me right off to see people making life decisions based on religion, when I know for a FACT, that religion is just plain dumb. I'm not sure of the average life-expectancy any more, but I'll say it's about 80. That's 80 years, or 29200 days, or 700800 hours. Don't waste a second of this reading about religion, making decisions based on religion, missing out on things 'cus of religion, wasting time in church, or praying. Life is what you make of it, it's pointless, but I like to think it's all about fun. Most people wake up in the morning, go to work, come home, do something for a short amount of time, and go to bed, you do things on your days off, spend your money that you made, then go right back to work, it's one big boring circle, and by the time you retire, you're too old to have as much fun as you did when you wasted the best years of your life in a class room, or at work. Hippies had it right, sit around all day, trip out on drugs, and have fun! Oh, and people who try talking people into changing religions.. what the **** does it matter to you? Are YOU going to go to "Heaven" because you made Jimmy believe in the invisible man who sits in a cloud and watches everyone all day? Probably not, so believe what you like, and leave us atheists alone, we're right and I actually laugh at the idiots who believe something that dumb. It's like believing an Ancient Egyptian Myth, and that ****'s whack, Google some of them, and maybe you'll believe that too. I just felt like getting some of this out, and sharing my opinion, thanks for reading, and if you agree with me, thank-you again =)

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Wilso
 
  1  
Wed 1 Oct, 2008 09:05 pm
@Jangles17,
One of the best posts I've ever read.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 1 Oct, 2008 09:29 pm
@Jangles17,
Jangles, I agree with Wilso; one of the best on a2k, because you have summarized what life is all about in one paragraph, while those of religion still can't figure it out after reading reams of junk. To think that many devote their whole lives to their religion is something of a freak. They pray and the read, and continue that routine for their whole life. Some of them even sound intelligent once in awhile, but the percentages are very small. "Life is extremely pointless" says it all, and amen.
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spendius
 
  1  
Thu 2 Oct, 2008 04:05 am
@Jangles17,
However wonderful Jangles's post is, and the main thrust of it is at least three thousand years old, it is very dangerous. It's a wrecker's charter. And very badly written compared with its many precursors. Babyish actually as one might expect.

If everybody accepted it there would be no fun. He's got his fun at no cost. He's a parasite. Normally parasites just get on with their parasiting and don't go around preaching how to ruin their life chances.

It's the philosophy of the grub. With a little more study Jangles (and Wilso and ci) could easily be converted to full blown Sadism and then all his natrural impulses would be frustrated or he would be locked away in an asylum as de Sade himself was.

He cannot possibly disapprove of the actions of our bankers or indeed any rapist. In the absence of constant trimming and compromise he is impossible to live with and incapable of any relationship lasting longer than is necessary for him to satisfy whichever urge is strongest at any particular time.



Eorl
 
  1  
Thu 2 Oct, 2008 04:46 am
@Jangles17,
Jangles17 wrote:

Life is extremely pointless.
We're here by a HUGE coincidence, no one will ever know how the hell we got here, and we shouldn't waste our lives trying to figure it out. God was made up to scare people into behaving and to give them something to live for, then people realized that if the afterlife was so good, why not just commit suicide? Well, to solve this problem, they made Hell, and if you're "bad" or kill yourself, you spend eternity in a fiery pit of worst nightmares, but god LOVES you. Bullshit, AND the other reason "God" was made up was to explain where things came from, like every ancient civilization made myths to explain things such as the sun. It pisses me right off to see people making life decisions based on religion, when I know for a FACT, that religion is just plain dumb. I'm not sure of the average life-expectancy any more, but I'll say it's about 80. That's 80 years, or 29200 days, or 700800 hours. Don't waste a second of this reading about religion, making decisions based on religion, missing out on things 'cus of religion, wasting time in church, or praying. Life is what you make of it, it's pointless, but I like to think it's all about fun. Most people wake up in the morning, go to work, come home, do something for a short amount of time, and go to bed, you do things on your days off, spend your money that you made, then go right back to work, it's one big boring circle, and by the time you retire, you're too old to have as much fun as you did when you wasted the best years of your life in a class room, or at work. Hippies had it right, sit around all day, trip out on drugs, and have fun! Oh, and people who try talking people into changing religions.. what the **** does it matter to you? Are YOU going to go to "Heaven" because you made Jimmy believe in the invisible man who sits in a cloud and watches everyone all day? Probably not, so believe what you like, and leave us atheists alone, we're right and I actually laugh at the idiots who believe something that dumb. It's like believing an Ancient Egyptian Myth, and that ****'s whack, Google some of them, and maybe you'll believe that too.


You claim to know too many things that you can't actually know. That weakens your point quite a lot.

(Wouldn't Frank be proud of me !?)

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Eorl
 
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Thu 2 Oct, 2008 04:53 am
@spendius,
spendius wrote:

He cannot possibly disapprove of the actions of our bankers or indeed any rapist.


Come on Spendius, you aren't even trying. I'll just take one... you can't possibly think that only theists have reasons to think rape is wrong. Views like that suggest that you are the dangerous one.
spendius
 
  1  
Thu 2 Oct, 2008 05:09 am
@Eorl,
Dangerous to what? Your way of thinking I presume.

Professor Germaine Greer said that all men are rapists. Do you understand what she meant?

Do you really think you saying I'm dangerous makes me dangerous. Wow!! That's Stalinism. He thought like that. So did Hitler, PolPot & Co.

You should be attending remedial night classes.
Eorl
 
  1  
Thu 2 Oct, 2008 05:35 am
@spendius,
That's funny....thoughts are dangerous, but only if you say so?

Yeah I know what she meant, and even if she's right, it isn't just religion that keeps us in the cage.
spendius
 
  1  
Thu 2 Oct, 2008 05:48 am
@Eorl,
Yeah--I know. It's fear of the law. Especially for those who can't afford a battery of lawyers or can't organise a cover-up.

To an atheist nothing is dangerous as an idea. What happens happens.

Our wonderful scientists have published a paper today claiming that cannabis is less dangerous than tobacco and alcohol. It's only a few months since scientists published a paper saying cannabis was more dangerous than throwing yourself under a bus.

Science has something for everybody.
spendius
 
  1  
Thu 2 Oct, 2008 10:49 am
@spendius,
What excuse is there for bringing a child into this dangerous, ghastly and uncertain world if its life is pointless?
Eorl
 
  1  
Fri 3 Oct, 2008 05:36 am
@spendius,
spendius wrote:

Yeah--I know. It's fear of the law.


That's one, but there are plenty more.

Quote:

To an atheist nothing is dangerous as an idea. What happens happens.


't'ain't so. Stupid ideas are stupid. Good ideas are good. We just don't need to cross reference an ancient collection of conflicting wisdom, history and nonsense to work out which is which.

Some of us actually get our dangerous ideas from such texts. Jonestown springs to mind. Withholding blood transfusions. Witch burning. Capital punishment. Circumcision. Jihad. Wasting Sunday mornings...ok. Bored now. I could go on forever.



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Eorl
 
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Fri 3 Oct, 2008 05:56 am
@spendius,
spendius wrote:

What excuse is there for bringing a child into this dangerous, ghastly and uncertain world if its life is pointless?


Sounds like your god gave you a bum deal when he picked out a part of the world for you. Ask him for a refund, or maybe move somewhere better! Smile
spendius
 
  1  
Fri 3 Oct, 2008 06:49 am
@Eorl,
I didn't ask for what you thought about my life.

I asked you another question entirely which has nothing to do with me. If this life is pointless as atheists have no option but to think then what excuse can you provide for bringing children into the world when our TV set tells us that 1/3 of us will die of cancer, we will all have to go to bloody school to be screwed up by a unionised bunch of no-hopers, then buggered about by a boss for fifty years, meanwhile being promised floods, plagues, nuclear catastrophe and all points to desolation on every news broadcast and seeing with our own eyes the effects it all has on our fellows.

As for the bum deal--I consider myself to be one of the 0.1% luckiest human beings who ever lived and am extremely grateful that I appeared in this world when I did because before then it was wall to wall shite and the predictions are that before long it will return to that state.

As you are here alongside me I also consider you to be in that lucky 0.1%. If you don't know that you should look to those who stole the knowledge from you and not at me.

Some people on here talk as if they are an earthquake survivor in the mountains of Pakistan and are enduring their third autumn under canvas waiting for the frosts and without painkillers. Methinks they squeal and bawl too much bearing in mind they are adjusting the air conditioning and settling down in front of the widescreen TV with a few cans to watch the ball game with a belly full of sclerotics knowing a team of alert medicine men await their first dizzy spell.
spendius
 
  1  
Fri 3 Oct, 2008 07:19 am
@spendius,
And believing themselves to be in the **** as a result of the activities of their bankers and politicians (never their beloved Media on the word of which they hang like wombats drying in the sun on the washing line) who have brought them all our wondrous goodies, unlike, say, Louis the Prick and Saddam Knob-face whose banking systems were beyond reproach.

They don't know what **** is. There is a man who does. His name is John McCain. He's experienced with deep ****. As is Mrs Palin.

This election is brilliant. I love the way the leading lady made a late entrance amidsts gasps of astonishment as is, of course, a lady's pregroative.

I suspect the other two have been cossetted a bit. You know- been afforded the opportunity to put on Ignore anything they didn't like.
spendius
 
  1  
Fri 3 Oct, 2008 07:28 am
@spendius,
I'll bet the tendency to put posters on Ignore is a left wing one.

That can only be due to a deep insecurity about their position and a fear of letting go of it having burned too many bridges doing battle.

It's silly too. Anybody who had me on Ignore missed a handful of big winners one of which was 10-1. Only one lost and that was second at a decent price. It's in the record.
Diest TKO
 
  1  
Tue 7 Oct, 2008 04:03 pm
@spendius,
Spendi - your self congratulatory claims of "big winners" is a mere whisper in the depth of all space.

You've shown zero intellectual potency, and I'm sure you'd struggle to find anyone on the right willing to defend your nonsense; you're an embarrassment that nobody wants to claim.

If ignoring people is a habit of the left, being ignorable is a habit of the right.

T
K
O
spendius
 
  1  
Tue 7 Oct, 2008 05:41 pm
@Diest TKO,
It is no quieter a whisper in the depth of all space than your, or anybody else's posts. What on earth has made you think otherwise. I hope it isn't the high esteem in which you hold yourself. That would be serious.

Why would I want anybody to defend me? I can defend myself. I don't need constant reassurance.

I can't understand you thinking me "ignorable" when you have singled yourself out to not ignore me. That's ridiculous.
Diest TKO
 
  1  
Tue 7 Oct, 2008 05:49 pm
@spendius,
The difference is that while you post in volume, you rarely give anything worth considering. You asserted that you being ignored had something to do with the left, and I was simply pointing out that the right isn't coming to your defense. Whether or not you need their defense or not, I can could care less, but your desperate plays for attention are very annoying. There are plenty of people on this site I don't agree with, and I'm content to (and often eager to) post in response to them. You being ignored is not a failure on others to meet you intellectually, but instead a failure on your behalf to earn a seat at the table.

I may not ignore you out of pity or the hope that one day you might say something worthwhile, for other's I cannot say.

T
K
O
 

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